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post Aug 8 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 8 2014, 11:07 AM)
To find out, need to join the community then. Community is important for spiritual growth, to be there to support, encourage and spur one another towards love and  good deeds (Heb 10:24-25)
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Ngai, Sonido is catholic background. Sonido also still learning about Holy Spirit. i have some conversation with him in this forum you can check backward few pages to get sonido point of view.

Sonido, if i were wrong about above conclusion so sorreyyy...
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post Aug 8 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Aug 8 2014, 11:36 AM)
Hmm .. that will explain his understanding of the church and the statement that salvation = "being in the church" ...
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 8 2014, 11:40 AM)
i see, thanks for the info ya.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Can we agree to intercede for sonido guys ? thumbup.gif
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post Aug 8 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 8 2014, 05:45 PM)
For some reason  I feel irritated/uncomfortable when a person praise/pray/cry out loudly to the Lord. I also don't like the majority of modern Christian music. That always made me wonder if that a sign I'm not geniune. Genuine Christians should be super happy with anything about God

Right?

I like old fashioned hymns though. Or no issue. Not sure what to say anymore.
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aha.... so i assume you like hymn great is thy faithfulness ? my favorite song

too bad these youngsters probably don't know this song.
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post Aug 11 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Aug 11 2014, 11:44 AM)
need strong proofing meh? he is an ego maniac, thats enough. I worked under him in a ministry before and he clashed with the youth pastor, thats enough evidence. He even backstab a fellow cg leader who did not do anything bad to him. The way he describe that cg leader with so much hatred. Then the auntie who tried to court him, he really boycott her so badly that she left the church.

David got prevented from sinning meh? He go and slept with one of his warrior's wife...he some more sent that warrior to battle to get killed, so can marry his wife.

i no need to backstab him lah, he will fumble himself. His selfish attitude will get the best of him. Forgiveness is one thing but knowing that the person is not a good person, I would stay away from him, because talking to him, will just make him show his arrogance at me again. And its hard to talk to a person who backstab me. I know he said some bad things about me to other people, because i have shared some stuff with him, thinking that he is trustworthy but he rat me out.

based on what other bad gossips he talk about other people, i know he will backstab one.
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so you were / are a fulltimer in a ministry ?
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 12 2014, 10:30 AM)
Bible Devotions with UW

Salvation of God is complete! Part 3

Protection! Psalm 121:7 (NIV) The LORD will keep you from all harm-- he will watch over your life;
This is a blessed assurance for every child of God.
Dear Friends, Our Father in Heaven wants you to live life at peace, not to worry or be paranoid in fear of life uncertainties.

We all have our own fears. Some fear the future, Some fear accidents, Some fear cancer, Robbers, Road Bullies, etc. Everyone have their weaknesses.

Agitation and fear give the devil opportunities to wreak problems in your life.
Rest in God allows the Grace of God's protection to flow in your life.

The way of the world says: You must do something, be worried and responsible to protect yourself. Constantly look out for No1, yourself.
God says: Be still. Rest and God will protect you.

You cannot have it both ways. Being worried, restless and expect God's grace to work. No Friends.
The Things of God's Kingdom works on the wave length of Peace.

Another Principal to apply is to know this scripture verse:
1 John 4:18 (NIV) There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

What is this "perfect love"? If you have spiritual eyes to see this, Only God = Perfect Love. God is the one who will drive out fear from your life when you know God loves you. When you know that God loves you in 100% certainty, the Devil cannot touch you. I say The devil cannot touch you. If you still have fear, this means you are still not made perfect in knowing God loves you. Somewhere there is still this mistrust. Dear Friends, that gives the Devil opportunities.

So How UW? What do I do since I can't bring myself to trust God. The Bible give permission for us to struggle for 1 thing, to work for 1 thing.
Hebrews 4:11 (KJV) - Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

We must "labour" or work or you can say "struggle" to enter INTO God's rest. Meaning to bring yourself to Trust God. Trusting God is resting in God.

Let me share God's secret with you. God's Grace of protection is always constantly flowing on you. It is your mistrust in God that the Devil take as legal opportunity to attack you.
The greater your agitation, the greater the opportunity for the enemy. This is the "modus operandi" of the Devil. It is a spiritual Fact, something we cannot afford to ignore or take lightly.

The Evil one cannot touch Christians who are at peace with God and at peace with himself (salvation) because the word of God protects Him/Her. This is a spiritual Fact.

I hope you learn something today. God Bless!
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post Aug 15 2014, 02:19 PM

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ooo end time coming... end time coming... buckle up make sure we are ready when HE suddenly appears ....

but bcuz i am a manager per say, it's quite difficult to manage things unmanageable rite ? but bible is the final authorithy anyway...
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post Aug 18 2014, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Aug 17 2014, 03:20 PM)
Yeah ... we should not pay attention to it ... as they are just indicators for us to be watchful. God only comes back when the Bride is prepared and we should give ourselves for this ... smile.gif
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The bible say watch for the end time sign,
The bible also say nobody knows when HE will come except the father.

My conclusion (this is mine, not what i heard from LORD) that, it's about the level of detail. granularity to be exact

The end time sign is happening a lot, at least when israel independence in 1945, bible say in mark 13:30 that:
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
meaning because human cannot live more than 120 years, sure before ... 1945 + 120 = 2065... before 2065 Christ has to come or else bible is not that accurate or perhaps, another interpretation ? maybe we should wait until 2065 and reassess what's the meaning for "this generation will certainly not pass away"...

but exactly what time before 2065... nobody knows cuz the bible oso say Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

now personally, when seeing the red moon above, my awareness runs quite high than before...
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 21 2014, 04:57 PM)
I've come across this article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karl-wilder/...ref=mostpopular
Of course promoting atheism again. But how to answer to people who had spiritual abuse?
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Just to add a few, UW has shared basic message: Rest.

these are few points to deal with Spiritual abuse

1. God's way and your way is not the same. Things went haywire or prayers are not being answered. Just remember that God's way and your way is not the same

2. Your thinking. Bible say whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things. do not focus on negative things, just keep thinking the admireable... phil 4:8 has the full message

3. Your word. Your word creates, therefore just say positive thinks: e.g.:
a. Whatever not planted by Heavenly Father i uprooted in the name of Jesus. Amen
b. By YOUR stripes you are healed. (regardless your disease getting worse).
c. The LORD is my salvation, my tower of refuge and my deliverer (regardless nothing happen)

4. To address emotional need, need to join care group and join Christian community. In essence, do you have friends with same faith and value like yours ?

5. In indonesia we have been aught: "Jangan lihat hasil" meaning: Do not trust what your eye see. situation getting worse, just keep saying positive things. e.g. keep saying I am healed, even today is worse than yesterday.

Well probably you say this is easy to say but very difficult to do. Then somebody must help the patient to apply those 5 points above. Therefore the church is needed to help individual who has spiritual abuse.

Imho: It's easy to help spiritual abuse. Just make sure the church is ready and available
Imho: It's easy to cure diabetes. Just make sure the hospital and doctor is ready and available.




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post Aug 22 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 22 2014, 08:29 AM)
My heart just scream... you are very wrong... salvation ISN'T EASY! Do not teach things you do not know.

Please do not insult God by saying salvation is like a candy you can obtain so easily... none of us is worthy enough for salvation, no one can demand for it. Only God will draw whoever the right one to Jesus. Not you to choose when and where you want to be saved... drill that into your brain!
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No lah broo sonido... salvation IS EASY, but what to do after got salvation ISN'T EASY. what to do after salvation is called in philipians 2:12 as work on salvation. Doing Phil 2:12 is challenging. or in your word ... ISN'T EASY.


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QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 23 2014, 01:26 PM)
All people with the right conditions in their heart I would say. So no one from all four corners of earth who has the potential to work for God is left out... This is justice.

Or do you think a trully evil people, like those from ISIS is also loved by God?
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are you trying to help ISIS or get enlightment for yourself ?
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post Aug 24 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 24 2014, 06:21 AM)
Dont get mad. I dont recognize who is assisting u in your faith, but first you should concentrate on God alone. And yourself.
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I have a church that can speak to my life and a care group that proven care. What do u have ?
You think salvation is not easy,
You don't recognize Holy Spirit exist,
...and yet you try to teach us about Christianity ?

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post Aug 24 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 24 2014, 06:52 PM)
you on the other hand is smack full of edit (haughtyness). ok you win. i lose. i rest my case here.

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dude, we care about you, and we want you to be maximal in Christ. Is that wrong ?
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 26 2014, 11:25 AM)
I wonder if we find some fossils of the nephilim?    biggrin.gif
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from sid roth youtube, they found nephilim cuz joshua didn't kill all the inhabitants during conquer. I found sid roth not offensive to my faith, so i enjoyed the show.
It's quite a interesting for me when he mention that Joshua needs to kill all Canaanites because GOD does not want nephilim / anakites descendants to pollute mesiah line genetically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkNm3jeCPaA...kiIQMl0A7aywJlx

again sorry if this sid roth youtube is offensive to Christian bro / sis smile.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 26 2014, 11:53 AM)
If everything alive, bar those in the ark were drowned during Noah's flood, how could sid come up with such explanation? 

In fact, the line of the messiah has gentiles in it. Is that pollution?

Rahab, a Canaanite prostitute, was in the line of the Messiah.

You should stop listening to such nonsense and vain imagination unsupported by scripture.  nod.gif
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pollution what Sid means: hybrid between human and non-human. I still believe rahab is 100% human, not hybrid.

it's fine to listen to Sid, as long as Sid glorify Christ, or else it will be a narrow minded individuals afraid this... afraid that


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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 29 2014, 12:05 AM)
going on our own since we live near the LRT. Thanks!
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Hi Bro / Sis,

Is this what you are talking about ? event in bukit jalil ?

Methodist Prayer Convention 2014
Methodist Prayer Convention 2014 - Perhimpunan Doa Methodist 2014
Theme: "A Church after God's own heart"
Date & Venue:

29-30 August 2014 at Sunway Convention Centre
31-August: Gathering of all Methodist churches for a time of prayer & celebration, Putra Stadium, Bukit Jalil.
Speaker: Rev Dr Stephen Seamands. 2nd Plenary Speaker: Rev Dr Joshua Ting

- See more at: http://www.cornerstone.com.my/methodistchu...h.qiZL2Xqy.dpuf
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Aug 30 2014, 09:49 PM)
brother UW also from methodist church? which church are you from?
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sure DUMC ... :-) just kidding

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 2 2014, 09:24 AM)
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Anyone going?

I might.  tongue.gif

Sophiera, you should go with your mom to this, it'll be good.
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wow Cindy Jacobs... tq for the information. I might come.
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Sep 3 2014, 09:28 PM)
any concert event held at grace convention center need to pay one and furthermore the seating that you get to sit not nice at all near to stage all the camera equipment and lighting stuff blocking the view
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is there any seating classes, such as VIP, VVIP, Class 1, Class 2, Class 3 those things ?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 4 2014, 04:12 PM)
Satan likes this.

If no one from the Christian circle discerns and judges what each 'Christian' teacher teaches imagine what will happen? 

Let's not get into prosperity teachings again......ask the people of Smryna
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Why should ask people of Smryna ? they all dead already. not exist today. Need to be relevant lahh... The idea is simple: Anything that not with Christ is against Christ.


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 4 2014, 09:42 PM)
You are right. Anything that is not with Christ is against Christ.

Christ commended the poor of the church in Smryna

8 "To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. 9 I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Is Christ dead that you should not listen?
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Christ is not dead, but you should not mislead Christian here with your theology... Because i can complain you to Jesus Christ, who is not dead.

I believe HE will give more favor to people that put malaysia for Jesus first, compare to other theology.

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