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post Jul 28 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 28 2014, 07:32 PM)
That is a dangerous thought. Strength in human thought is not the same as Strength by God's standard. Strength by human standards is to beat the opponent into a pulp. Shaming and slander is violence against character. The guy who shames the best wins the argument. Very noticeable in /k/ forums.

If someone slaps you, turn the other cheek. If someone orders you to carry a mile, carry two miles. That is not strength by any cultural standard: that's weakness.

But that is exactly what Jesus said.

This is not about showing who's strong or weak. Especially through internet forum words, you cannot change a person's heart by being merely strong yourself.

What they must really see is God's strength

It's not the strong ruling over the weak. It's the weak becoming strong through faith. In order for God to show His strength, we must be 'weak'. We cannot let our own character and pride block out God.

Many charismatic people become trapped into becoming an idol. Why? Because to the human eye, they're so strong it distracts them from what's truly strong.
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I used to agree with your writings but no more: What they must really see is God's strength .

The correct one is: What they must see is what Lord Jesus wants them to see.

We need to ask Lord Jesus more detail when doing things, old school is approach will not be sufficient in this end time.
For some occasions, display God's strength.
For some occasions, display something else. Why, because Jesus said not to display God's strength. Whatever Jesus say is the law. At least for me.

The problem, what if a person cannot hear what Jesus wants ? didn't the bible say My sheep knows My voice ?

Based on my walk with Christ, there are some people that simply does not want to hear about church / Christ, therefore Lord Jesus asked me to use a concept called proxy. Yeah this is "IT information technology" terms, but meaning for this context. Obedience to Christ first, above other rules.

When i write things in this forum, i always ask Lord Jesus. Am i authorized to write things ? what if i do wrong ? how do i know am i right ? what if i offend somebody ? what if A, what if B, what if C ?

Lord Jesus smiles at me at simply say, why worries too much ? Just write and I will take care the rest.
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post Jul 29 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 29 2014, 12:22 AM)
Obeying God is still acknowledging His strength. Using another plan, hence another way of God's strength, is still God' plan. What are we to say that only 'my' personal efforts will work?

Praying to God and asking for the next move will no longer be your might alone. It's still a co-operation of you and the Heavens. Obeying Christ first is also not own person strength. Unless everything what Pehkay and unknownwarrior so far were wrong.

I personally cannot hear God in a literal sense. Does that make me an unbelieving heretic?

Perhaps all of us need to ask, 'should I write this'? We often say things that hurt others without thinking.
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Allow me to reply in two sections:

--- About this: I personally cannot hear God in a literal sense. Does that make me an unbelieving heretic?--

You are not an unbelieveing heretic. You are in a good shape, you inherit salvation and good lahh.... but not best / maximum.

If you cannot hear God, you cannot be maximized in your callings or your live.

God still love you, only you cannot be maximized in everything.

again...again..again sorry to be rude. I hope you understand the depth of the Love that our Christ wants to reveal, by disclosing this fact. It's true.

Can you imagine a wife reading his husband facebook post without never have quality conversation for 80 years ?

The symbol / representation above is below:
The wife is church in general (or you shall i say ?)
The husband is our Jesus Christ
The facebook is the bible in printed form.
quality conversations is literally to talk / discuss / meet face to face and do more intimate things, not only reading facebook post.
80 years represent human lifespan naturally.

-- about this: Perhaps all of us need to ask, 'should I write this'? We often say things that hurt others without thinking.---

Matthew 15:21-28 demonstrate Jesus simply does not want to serve the Canaanite woman. Jesus hurts Canaanite woman feeling. I think so; yeah so what, HE is the law anyway.

again...again..again sorry to be rude. But HE is the law... HE can do anything HE wants.... including to decline to help Canaanite woman.

I am not the law, but I have mandate to write, therefore i wrote. I know i may hurt others, I am truthfully sorry for that, but i have to write what i have to write smile.gif If you ask me to choose God's will or other people feelings, For me, God's will first, even it's not a happy writings / rebuking in nature. Does Jesus ever offend anybody. Yes... see mat 15:21-28.
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jul 29 2014, 04:53 PM)
Anyone need this? God bless =)

Join a church more, go for their prayer meetings, cell/life groups, help out in outreach ministry, children ministry, and remember to attend Sunday's service to honor God.

Encourage a discouraged brother/sister, get them out of addiction of gaming (esp lowyat, you know), of unhealthy living lifestyle. Be with them, share their feelings. Shine the light.

Jiayou. If anyone of you need help in overcoming gaming addiction ( i was one), please pm me.
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post Jul 29 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Jul 29 2014, 11:04 PM)
Its quite interesting these days, when you mention encourage a discourage brother.

but these days, i notice most christians don't do this kind of thing.

i have seen some christians at office pretend to listen to office problems, but behind people back, they rat out their co-workers to get promotion.

yeah, i even seen people at church rat out other christians, to gain favor.
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too bad in these days, the strong one get what their want and the weaker one just get leftovers... both in Church and outside church.
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post Jul 29 2014, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Jul 29 2014, 11:24 PM)
huh? what leftovers? you mean $$$?

but sometime christians just use the excuse saying "hey don't look at us, we are imperfect, look to god and his word". Its another way or excuse of saying, "I don't want to improve, I am EGO, i don't want to admit i made a mistake".

just last week, i had a debate with my uncle who is a christian, i ask him, why all this abuse in the church, they playing politics with each other? I say no wonder lah, god punish some of the churches by having these religious raids, because sometimes the leaders and their sub-leaders grown proud and lost focus on who is the true enemy than to fight among themselves. Maybe its a wake up call to get united.

His answer was, he don't bother, he just do what he is ask to do, to submit to god's will, he started getting defensive, and say he don't give a damn because those who question only want to cause havoc, must submit to the leadership. But i say, why can't bring up a matter to the leadership and try to resolve it? He say to go and follow the word. Alamak, no wonder his business the debtors all don't pay lah, because he so weak willed.

When i visited a cg, I once spoke to a cg leader, ask him why for 5 years his cg never grow, only 7 people? I say the church should help like when people call in to enquire about cg, they can divert the visitors to cgs that need members. I also brought up the issue why the church so ridiculous to always multiply until the cg become so small, its growth stunted. I saw the cg that was due to multiply in the church org plans. The cg have 15 members, but only 7 are active, the rest are kalafei members only come once in 3 months. Then they multiply the cg... doh.gif without a proper recruitment system !!!! That cg after 3 years evaporated...only 2 members left.

Then the botak head cg leader fumed at me, say don't raise this issue, this is church leadership instructions, he say lah, he don't want to listen because its hisway or the highway. This kind of idiot cg leader...So Damn EGO. But you know what? After few months, the church listen to my proposal, my frens at the church told me, suddenly the church started diverting visitors to cgs that have their growth stunted.

Hah, they so EGO, they don't want to admit that they finally taken up my suggestion..they knew i was right, but they shut me out like that, because they think they more superior than me.
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Jul 29 2014, 11:24 PM)
huh? what leftovers? you mean $$$?

but sometime christians just use the excuse saying "hey don't look at us, we are imperfect, look to god and his word". Its another way or excuse of saying, "I don't want to improve, I am EGO, i don't want to admit i made a mistake".

just last week, i had a debate with my uncle who is a christian, i ask him, why all this abuse in the church, they playing politics with each other? I say no wonder lah, god punish some of the churches by having these religious raids, because sometimes the leaders and their sub-leaders grown proud and lost focus on who is the true enemy than to fight among themselves. Maybe its a wake up call to get united.

His answer was, he don't bother, he just do what he is ask to do, to submit to god's will, he started getting defensive, and say he don't give a damn because those who question only want to cause havoc, must submit to the leadership. But i say, why can't bring up a matter to the leadership and try to resolve it? He say to go and follow the word. Alamak, no wonder his business the debtors all don't pay lah, because he so weak willed.

When i visited a cg, I once spoke to a cg leader, ask him why for 5 years his cg never grow, only 7 people? I say the church should help like when people call in to enquire about cg, they can divert the visitors to cgs that need members. I also brought up the issue why the church so ridiculous to always multiply until the cg become so small, its growth stunted. I saw the cg that was due to multiply in the church org plans. The cg have 15 members, but only 7 are active, the rest are kalafei members only come once in 3 months. Then they multiply the cg... doh.gif without a proper recruitment system !!!! That cg after 3 years evaporated...only 2 members left.

Then the botak head cg leader fumed at me, say don't raise this issue, this is church leadership instructions, he say lah, he don't want to listen because its hisway or the highway. This kind of idiot cg leader...So Damn EGO. But you know what? After few months, the church listen to my proposal, my frens at the church told me, suddenly the church started diverting visitors to cgs that have their growth stunted.

Hah, they so EGO, they don't want to admit that they finally taken up my suggestion..they knew i was right, but they shut me out like that, because they think they more superior than me.
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just last week, i had a debate with my uncle who is a christian, i ask him, why all this abuse in the church, they playing politics with each other? I say no wonder lah, god punish some of the churches by having these religious raids, because sometimes the leaders and their sub-leaders grown proud and lost focus on who is the true enemy than to fight among themselves. Maybe its a wake up call to get united.


Some church in malaysia undergo church cleanup (aka purifying fire). Too bad while clean-up in progress, if you are part of that church, you will feel the heat anyway and i agree it does not comfortable. Your leader make decision but you suffers.

Our tower of refuge and strength is God, not church. But church is Christ Bride, you hurt the church, the husband (aka Christ) pissed off lahhh... the church in this context means the leaders and office and official structures.

so how to avoid this deadlock ? God's revelation and answers. Are you able to hear God ? then you need to take a step of faith. Here are the case study:

1. if Jesus say stay, it means HE will protect you there regardless what happen. don't trust your eyes and entertain your feeling. Just stay and enjoy that purifying fire. Yes i know it's not your mistakes, your leader mistakes but the safest place is to stay in God's will.

2. if Jesus say move, it means HE wants to protect you from that purifying fire. HE know the fire will damage you so HE relocates you. Trust HIM, whatever place he say just enjoy. Cuz the safest place is to stay in God's will.

3. Jesus can ask you to stay temporary or move temporary. The sharp ears is needed. Timing is everything. God's Grace is sufficient, but your fear eats you up.

4. If Jesus ask you to leave, it's polite i think to tell ur CG leader anyway. Sure cg leader ask for reason, just make up reason ? no..... ask Jesus what to say if your CG ask you A question, B question etc..etc... be attentive to detail.

5. Beware of leaders curse. Leader can say for example: ... alamak.... why move church ? it's not faithful you know... people everywhere same lah..same lah... break his curse in the Name of Jesus, but keep smile and make sure your mouth only say what Jesus authorized. usually blessings.

6. Maintain relationships. leaders are powerful people. keep in touch in professional context, don't bring to heart / emotionally. Who knows after you relocate to another church then GOD ask you to go back ? if u burn the bridge, then looks awful lah in the future. But if the leader burn the bridge, yeah... it's not within ur control rite ?

7. if u already married then it's quite complicated

8. if you are a fulltime minister in that church then .... no comment :-)

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What i got from Lord Jesus is: you need to discuss with HIM in detail, what to do. Make sure you discuss also the pro and cons. There is a thing called SWOT analysis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis
The Lord wants you to discuss SWOT analysis for every possible actions that HE put in your heart.

Now the ball is in you to start to have conversation with HIM... c'mon manic boleh ! thumbup.gif











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God Bless U all :-)
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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 31 2014, 10:23 AM)
Brother, dis is a light hearted question. Since you like quoting Matthew so much i am intrigued on another "controversial" verse, the Matthew 5:28. I wish to know your view if its not burdensome. Sorry for the trouble hehe...
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thanks for the trust. It's an honour. I believe unknown_warrior has highlighted about respect woman, it should be more than enough but allow me to share what HE wants me to write.

Does Matthew 5:28 is condemning you... or helping you not to sin ? let's not answer that question directly.

Men are born with weaknesses and strength. some men more resistant to sexual temptation while some men are simply not.

Testosterone, Cortisol, Estradisol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormones_and_...rousal#Hormones
humans needs those hormones but too much of hormones has negative impacts. Your sexual appetite becomes unmanageable (aka lustful).

The strong one rules over the weaks one. If testosterone try to take control of your body, tell your body to resist the temptation. This work for ... very few people who is naturally more resistant to sexual temptation.

then how about for those who are not so resistant ? supernatural. that's only choice. Ask Jesus to intervene directly to your natural live and guide you not day by day... but seconds by seconds... events by events...

Jesus knows, and Jesus is not stupid. He knows that sexual temptation gravity is increasing in these days compared to ... let's say 100 years ago... therefore HE knows that more people will fail... or shall I say more people will learn to use supernatural power... or shall I say more people will understand the importance of GOD's voice in their live and the impact to maximize life in Christ.

This is one of the reason i told somebody that if you cannot hear God's voice, you cannot be maximal in your life.

I have a case, but i cannot disclose the actual time and person and place, so i adjust accordingly but the value stays:

I have a privileges to help Mr. A, who is a sex addicted person. GOD's told me something very unusual as to help Mr A. I told Mr A that to be set free, instead of running from temptation, he has to face the temptation as per GOD instruction. GOD instruction for Mr A is not to run from temptation, but to face the goliath. Two different things rite ?

Initially, Mr A shared with me that he was fasting and praying, and avoid temptation and it seems to be no significant progress. testosterone is still there and every girl in sunway / midvalley is wearing short pants and sometimes tank tops with visible / invisible bra! ... Mr A try not to go to mall or public place, in addition to swimming pool... as he try to gouge out his eyes as of Matthew 5:29 standard ... but in reality... this is year 2014 frenzz....

Then i told him let me ask GOD probably i have some answers. So the answers is below:

Mr A has to spend time, on purpose, with females outside from church. Female friends who are attractive and sometimes wear sexy skirts. He just have to spend more time with opposite sex. He has to stay in sunway pyramid and looks those pretty girls... do all of them, until he feels not aroused anymore.

Wow... isn't it the bible say in avoid temptation ? Yes, but JESUS is the law. Those sexual temptation are Mr A goliath, so as to speak, he must kill his goliath... but using GOD's instruction not Mr A understanding.

So i told Mr A what i hear from Jesus and he did it. Amazingly, now the feelings gone, except little2x bit. Now the "little2x bit" he has to manage per what bible say. Avoid temptation.

The processes is not simple at all. Early days Mr A always said he has a lot of memory of those pretty girl and their smile and voice always carried till he dreams them. But in the morning he knows it is wrong and quickly come to grace of GOD for purification... day by day it's improving then a week he completely failed even worse than his early days... then I told him this is a basic devil trick to demoralize you, because day by day you are getting better and you assume tomorrow will be better than yesterday. Positive thinking is good but JESUS is in control. Positive thinking is not GOD, Jesus is GOD. Positive thinking can steal your relationship with GOD.

There are plenty details that i don't have space and time to type...

The process takes about 5 years for Mr A.

During the first 5 years, i can confirm that Mr A is always lustful to women.
During the first 5 years, i told Mr A that do not look at Matthew 5:28. It will condemn you, not helping you.
During the first 5 years, JESUS pretty much does not bother if he breaks Matthew 5:28 standard. Sure JESUS knows, he will break it every time.

After 5 years, Mr A is set free. No more struggle to see women and can manage not to lust to other woman.
After 5 years, i told Mr A that Matthew 5:28 is a benchmark, Matthew 5:28 is not condemning him, but serves as alarm.
After 5 years, it's not JESUS that put the standard higher for him. Mr A simply say he is free. Mr A declares with Christ, he can fullfil Matthew 5:28. Now this is the true work of salvation, and Grace of God demonstrated.



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Now Matthew 5:28 is condemning you... or helping you not to sin ? only JESUS is the law and only JESUS can help you pass through your temptation and problems... GOD's way, not your thinking, nor your understanding.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2014, 09:16 AM)
Don't give up.

Even though if you're going through tough time.

Psalm 50:15 - and call on me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you will honor me."
This is only true and available for believers.  smile.gif
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Wowwwwwwwwwww hebattttt !!!

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 31 2014, 08:46 PM)
basically you say strong sexual appetite is wrong, and we need to suppress it by God help.

but God did not condemn King Solomon for his 700 wives and concubines, and he even created songs about sex in the bible after all... his fall from grace was for marrying unbelievers who led him away from God and not because of his sexual addiction.
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Sorry Sonido, not a good answers i got from HIM, but i would like to help you but who am i correct ? even i do not know ur background. Here what i got from HIM, sorry for all inconvenience caused:

1. You are genuine but it's not enough. Your understanding is similar to somebody thinks earth is flat because sun is rising from east to west. It was correct in the past but not today.

2. Jesus is the law. He allowed solomon does not mean he allows you. I mean c'mon GOD is GOD rite ? HE can do whatever he pleases... divine is divine, divine reasons also is divine reasons...

3. You have to un-learn everything about Christianity and start from 0. In simple, if you mind telling you something, it's tipu2x yourself lah...

If i have more revelation about you i will share, but so far this one only i have.
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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 31 2014, 10:25 PM)
its ok. no need to doubt me. i know myself and i now believe God knows me. i'm not trying to lead you or anyone astray, i'm honestly just want for Christians to build their foundation on a strong earth, not sand. didn't you say you like to argue with the unbelievers? how are going to answer them and how are you going to stand on your faith if they come up with such strong arguments?
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hi..hi..hi... you are genuine.

about like to argue with the unbelievers, are you referring to this post ?
QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 28 2014, 05:27 PM)
Allow me to kepo2x sikit smile.gif

About arguing wit the unbelievers, you need to show them who is the strongest. The strong one rules. The strong one ruled offer the weaker one, on the positive sides, the strong one offer protection for the weaker ones. The weak will follow the strong ones. That's the nature of human.

Break something if necessary to prove something. This is a deep word, please don't take literally. Literally, bless them. spiritually, bind / break something. actually, Only Jesus Christ knows how to deal with certain things.
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kindly confirm and i will explain next post...

If I am not authorized to argue with unbeliever, i will not argue. despite like to argue, i will restrain myself not to argue. I need Authorization from Jesus Christ to argue.
How to answer the unbeliever ? no authorization no answers... but for the sake of politeness i probably say... wow u so smart lahhhh... i believe you will be success cuz u so smart... i never heard somebody as smart as u lah.... sure u read a lot of things... i wish i have money / degree / car / home like u ... i wanna be success lah like u...

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 31 2014, 10:25 PM)
............i'm honestly just want for Christians to build their foundation on a strong earth, not sand. .............
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What i got from Jesus is this: a strong earth is not something like what you think. Kindly discuss with HIM for more details. HE wants you to have more knowledge on this particular word. Dunno why... HE didn't disclose.
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G Morning sonido, allow me to share what i got from JESUS this morning:

QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 1 2014, 12:13 AM)
no. even if you do not answer them, you are still subjected to their questions by just reading their views. and when you read and have no answer in your heart, then you begin to wonder whether your faith is trully justified. many strong christians have fallen this way.
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Beware of devil traps called identity attack and curse.

If unbeliever say something (e.g. bible say creation is 6 days but dinosour exist 1 million years ago therefore bible not acurate lahhh.... ) there is always a curse behind any single word that comes from their mouth, cuz they are unbelievers. regardless genuine or not. The effect of the curse: your faith diminished... Just remember, when your faith diminished, sure it's a curse...

Therefore you need to do simultaneously 2 things: break the curse and declare your identity.

Break the curse and declare your identify are deep topics. Let me know if you don't understand what i mean.

QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 1 2014, 12:13 AM)
now, i give you a hint to my question.

lets look at the story of David and Batsheba. That is the perfect example to what Jesus trully meant in Matthew 5:28.

We must not forget the Bible translation from language to language particularly from Hebrew to Greek to English can be lost or not translated properly in the past. this we must accept.

the woman is not all women, in Matthew 5:28. the woman Jesus meant is a woman that is in relation to someone else. in other words, MARRIED WOMAN.

if men cannot lust women, then men might as well not get married. lust is a gift from God. just as anger or anything we falsely think as negative and must be suppresed. that is not what God intend us to do.
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This is good. Congratulations ! ...

different person needs different revelations and agreed.

I can copy-paste yours (if you don't mind) and use it as tools to convince others. What i try to say, I have collections of knowledge and i will ask Jesus next time which wisdom i have to use for different case.
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QUOTE(sonido @ Aug 1 2014, 10:15 AM)
Pls do.. im glad we can help each other. Though i may add the true purpose of God is for us to be loyal to our partner(if we have). With this knowledge we can rest assured our faith will not be shaken by such petty matter. God will install us the gift of self control.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Aug 1 2014, 12:32 PM)
do u all know that Jew is actually not a race but religion?
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I know some info, not detail. I went to israel last year, attend a synagoge and tour leader explain about religion called called jew, messianic jew, christian.
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God Bless U All...
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Aug 5 2014, 07:18 PM)
good answer
i really respect u
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You do have manners. Are you christian ? or Catholic ? apology if not convenience with my question...

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Aug 5 2014, 10:47 PM)
rejection of belief in the existence of deities
nope

i do believe yet i respect all god, including natural entity
i here as i can learn about christian jesus and christ
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If you live near PJ selangor, you can try visit this church:
www.chc.org.my
Cuz i go there therefore i can recommend.

Perhaps you can have more data / baseline to compare more deities...
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 6 2014, 06:15 PM)
Hi all, if you are stay around PJ especially SS2 or digital mall, you might want to drop by to visit our church, http://www.malaysiachurch.org/

Sunday is 10.30am. Wednesday is 8pm.

For smaller group/cell group, Friday 8pm. 

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Hi... it's good to see another God's Kingdom established around PJ

btw i have few questions biggrin.gif

1. I am indonesian. what's the church relationships with GKDI ? i mean, GKDI mentor u or u mentor GKDI, or both of u part of ICOC ? or something else ? kindly enlight
2. I think the singapore link is not working... should be http://seachurchesmedia.org/seachurches/ rite ?

ahh... you post at 6PM lahhh and now already 8PM, i think i wanna try wednesday 8PM service next week. I hope it's english service...

currently for non sunday service i have only city harvest (near PJ) which is saturday. now i have wednesday 8PM service options. will try next week...


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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 7 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hi, great to receive this message  smile.gif

1. Yeah, GDKI is part of ICOC - http://www.dtodayinfo.net/ - http://www.gkdi.org/en/gkdi-jakarta/ we all are part of ICOC. Over here we also have some Indonesian brothers and sisters. Some married and settle down here also. 
2. Yeah the link is http://seachurchesmedia.org/seachurches . which link you tried not working?

Our service is in english. I will PM you my HP so that we could keep in touch ya.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The singapore link is broken. What I mean is this:

goto http://www.malaysiachurch.org/
You will have menu home, about us, blogs & news, tithing & giving, sermons, calender, contact us, links

Go to menu links, which is:
1. Under the word God known.
2. On the left of Contact Us.

You will find singapore, indonesia, korea, japan, ICOC hot news, disciples today, useful links.

The link singapore is not working.

Thanks for the invitation, much appreciated.
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