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I need to admit that this is the first time I got to know about this word 'capture'. Gotta study more the difference first.
rapture. the event that officially ends the church age.LYN Christian Fellowship V7 (Group), Bible Hope never disappoints!
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 5 2014, 07:38 PM) what other perspective leh? prophetjul gave an clear example of the Church of Smyrna (commended by the Lord) who are materially poor, but spiritually rich & lots of funny answers come out. it is an undeniable fact that some christian concerts do charge exorbitant prices. they can claim all they want about being non-profit organizations, donate to charity, etc, but the fact of the matter is, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of even believers. How do the non-believers view this/us? On par with secular concert prices leh......... personally, i'm turned off by the prices. i find it all too gimmicky for my liking. So i don't attend. |
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Christian Beaten, Tortured and Killed by ISIS for Refusing to Convert to Islam
By Stoyan Zaimov , Christian Post Reporter September 3, 2014|7:25 am ![]() A member of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant waves an ISIS flag. A Christian man in Iraq has reportedly been beaten, tortured, and killed by terror group ISIS for refusing to renounce his faith and convert to Islam. Ankawa.com reported on Tuesday that the 43-year-old man, Salem Matty Georgis, remained in the Syriac Christian town of Bartella after it was captured by ISIS on August 7. A relative said that the man was suffering from heart disease and could not leave the town with his family because of his illness. Georgis hid in his home for three weeks, but eventually had to venture outside in search of food. He was then confronted by an ISIS patrol in town. "The patrol arrests him and tried to force him to convert to Islam, but he completely refused. Thus, the militants beat him and tortured him until he died in their hands," the relative explained. The militants dumped Georgis' body, which was later discovered by a Bartella resident and buried. ISIS, which has captured several towns across Iraq and Syria, has targeted religious minorities and many Christians, threatening followers of Christ to convert to Islam, pay a tax or be killed. "Exactly we don't know why in this situation they killed this man," William Warda of the Hammurabi Human Rights Organization told the International Christian Concern. "Generally they have allowed people to leave, without money or documents, but alive." Todd Daniels, ICC Regional Manager for the Middle East, said: "The international community cannot remain silent about the existential threat that Iraq's Christian communities are facing. We are witnessing the emptying of Christians from their homelands. We applaud the United Nations for meeting regarding these human rights abuses, but in the face of such horrific violence, action must be taken to ensure the protection of these communities." ISIS has been accused of committing atrocities such as beheading children and mass rapes. Militants have posted a number of videos in the past few weeks showing the murders of hostages and other soldiers. ISIS released a video on Tuesday showing the beheading of Steven J. Sotloff, an American journalist held hostage by the terrorist organization, in response to the U.S. launching air strikes in Iraq. Another American journalist, James Foley, was beheaded in August. "The intelligence community will work as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity. If the video is genuine, we are sickened by this brutal act taking the life of another innocent American citizen. Our hearts go out to the Sotloff family," said State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki. On Wednesday, U.S. officials confirmed that the video of the beheading of Sotloff is authentic. The Islamic State, as the terror group is also known, has also been organizing children's camps where militants are said to be indoctrinating young boys into their ideology and training them to use weapons. One 13-year-old boy, who later escaped the camp, said that he witnessed beheadings, stonings and a crucifixion that the militants carried out and forced others to watch. "They used to bring young [kids] to the camp to lash them," the boy said. "When we go to the mosque, they order us to come the next day at a specific time and place to [watch] heads cut off, lashings or stonings. "We saw a young man who did not fast for Ramadan, so they crucified him for three days, and we saw a woman being stoned [to death] because she committed adultery." SOS http://www.christianpost.com/news/christia...o-islam-125779/ John 15:18 If the world hate you, you know that it hated me before it hated you. 2 Timothy 3:12 Yes, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Matthew 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. 1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you: Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? This post has been edited by 14-9-2015: Sep 7 2014, 02:17 PM |
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 19 2014, 12:06 PM) Direct the question to here is you want to pursue an answer ... what about the young earth theory then? that the world is only about 6000 yrs old? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2661388/+1280 To be precise I'd use 50 to 55 million years ago for the first primate, 25 to 30 Million for the first Ape, 2.3 to 2.4 Million for the first Homo genus, 200k for the first H. sapien species... A billion will be off by a factor of around 18x... example link : http://www.nwcreation.net/ageyoung.html#Young_earth i thought carbon dating is no longer considered as a reliable measuring tool? i remember reading an article regarding the thickness of space dust on the surface of the moon that could determine the age of the earth. also another article that says, well, apparently fossil fuel can be produced in a much, much shorter space of time compared to millions of years. so the Earth isn't as old as the scientific community assumes it to be. |
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QUOTE(TankerGadget Store @ Sep 24 2014, 09:48 PM) tot yoga is against christianity ? i mean those posses are perform when hindu worship god ... and pastor said its not recommended to do yoga that is correct. the poses. the article below is pretty long but sums it up nicely. its not as innocent as it seems.What Is Yoga? Yoga (/ˈjoɡə/; Sanskrit: योग, Listen) are the physical, mental, and spiritual practices or disciplines that aim to transform body and mind. The term denotes a variety of schools, practices and goals in Hinduism, Buddhism (including Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhism and Jainism,[ the best-known being Hatha yoga and Raja yoga. The term yoga is derived from the literal meaning of "yoking together" a span of horses or oxes, but came to be applied to the "yoking" of mind and body. Yoga: noun - A mystic and ascetic Hindu discipline by which one seeks to achieve liberation of the self and union with the supreme spirit or universal soul through intense concentration, deep meditation, and practices involving prescribed postures, controlled breathing, etc.; a system of exercising involving the postures, breathing, etc. practiced in this discipline. A Christian who studies the Word of God, should instantly see red flags and discern that yoga and Christianity are not compatible. We see in the definition: “Yoga is the physical, mental and spiritual practices or disciplines that aim to transform body and mind.” What does God say about transforming our minds? “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God” (Romans 12:2). We know that the practice of yoga is rooted in Hinduism and Buddhism. As Christians, do we want to open up our minds to something that will transform us to be more like Hindus or Buddhists? Ok, when we see it in black and white, it seems unthinkable. But this is exactly what practicing yoga is accomplishing in your life. “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death” (Proverbs 14:12). Next we see in the definition - The term yoga is derived from the literal meaning of “yoking together” a span of horses or oxes, but came to be applied to the “yoking” of mind and body. Another red flag should easily be seen by a student of the Word. Let’s see what God says about being yoked together: “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” (2 Corinthians 6:14). The picture of oxen being yoked together is used by both yoga and the Word. In yoga, the goal is for mind and body to be yoked together. It’s a Hindu discipline to bring mind and body into submission - but to what end? Were you aware that every yoga pose is a posture of worship to various Hindu gods? In this way, the person is making offerings to millions of Hindu deities! Of course, these details are left off of the “Welcome pamphlet” in yoga centers. People are going there to stretch and relax and be energized, right? The Kundalini Spirit In an interview with Dave Hunt of the Berean Call (Dave is now with our Lord) the subject of the Kundalini spirit was addressed: In spite of the advertisements and talk about health and fitness yoga’s real goal is to awaken Kundalini power, coiled like a serpent at the base of the spine, ready to spring up to manifest itself through the alleged chakras, (centers of universal force) of the body.” Now, what exactly is Kundalini yoga, or Kundalini power, for that matter? Dave Hunt: Well, to put it bluntly, it’s demonic. There is no way you can explain it physically, it’s a non physical force. There certainly is nothing coiled at the base of the spine, three and one-half times coiled like a serpent that’s going to spring up when you get in the proper state of consciousness, supposedly. This is the same occult power that all the occultists are in touch with, or try to be in touch with. In yoga, the student is told to empty their minds to prepare for meditation. An empty mind is exactly what Satan likes. See what God says about meditation: “Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer” (Psalm 19:14). |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 25 2014, 10:46 AM) Wow, thanks for sharing your conviction. In the past, I did glance through people share about this topic. Just that, I didn't go deep to study on this. yup About the empty mind thingy, so far I didn't really get this instruction from the yoga instructor. But even the instructor did, imo it doesn't means doing that is practicing Hinduism. Actually the bible did mention about this too. Be clear minded and self-control so that you can pray (1 Pe 4: 7). Anyway, if we want, we can also mediate God's word while doing yoga For me, be it yoga, tai chi or qi gong, this passage come to my mind: 1 Corinthians 10:23-33 - The Believer's Freedom 23 "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 24 Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others. 25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it." 27 If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if anyone says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake-- 29 the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience? 30 If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for? 31 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32 Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God-- 33 even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved. Anyway, I will try to study more about this. After all, Yoga is not the only thing available. There are other forms of exercises that can be used as therapy too its really up to us how we choose to respond/react to situations. e.g. years ago i loved playing DOTA, but somehow, the 'demonic' elements made me feel very uncomfy compared to other PC games. the character/heroes had names like Abaddon ( Lord of Avernus ), Lucifer ( Doom Bringer ), spirit-breaker, & the spell-castings ( resurrection, sacrifice, etc. ). so i just gave it up for other PC games. u do have a choice of FIFA or RALLY or even Worms Armageddon u knw |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 25 2014, 10:24 PM) QUOTE If you want to have demonstrate, i can ask pray or ask my team to pray that you or your team cannot login / reply to my thread and posting anything that does not constitute JESUS CHRIST perfect will. wanna start the demonstration ? let me know |
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QUOTE(simpletraveler @ Sep 29 2014, 01:29 PM) My last post answered you partly. I don't have a religion. I study all religions and try to save the ignorant and innocent people, no bad intentions and not meant to make money. QUOTE This is how religious followings work. If you notice religious followers closely, you will notice they are the not so intelligent ones. The intelligent ones will be the leaders, pastors and fathers making money from them. The intelligent ones will not believe in any god blindly without implying logic. QUOTE Their leaders are greedy in promoting, the followers are full of ignorance. Both are basic flaws of humans, add in the last, aversion and there goes holy wars and crusades. Why so offensive?! Why do you hate us for believing in a Creator God?!! What have we ever done to you?!!! Why so bitter? Just because you see brethren disagreeing with each other and you immediately come in here to take advantage of the commotion |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 3 2014, 06:09 PM) Do you know 14-9-2015? He uses the exact phrase "Bema Seat Judgement". for 1) and 2) you answered that you don't know. 1) I won't know ... only that it won't be pleasant. Matthew describe it as "outer darkness". 1 Corinthians (which I quoted) we will be saved as through fire. In Matthew 18 the Lord spoke of a believer who did not forgive from the heart his brother who had offended him. When the Lord comes to judge the believers, that is, “to settle accounts with his slaves” (v. 23), He will deliver such a one “to the torturers,” that is, He will cause him to be punished in the millennium until he forgives his brother from his heart (vv. 34-35). This shows that some believers’ sins will be forgiven only after punishment in the millennium. If a believer sins after being saved, he can be forgiven and chastised by God for some sins in this age, that is, today. But some sins can be forgiven only after the believer is punished in the millennium. 2) It will be in the realm of speculation as I don't know. But how He deals with us today as in the experiences of Jacob. I bet that time, it will be intensified. I won't know ;D. Where? Does it matter? Probably on earth. If the New Jerusalem seem real... then can you say the throne is God and a physical Lamb? Or it is the wife of the Lamb and the mother of the believers. The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to Him to show to His slaves the things that must quickly take place; and He made it known by signs, sending it by His angel to His slave John, If you believe that all will be matured, then you have to interpret these verses which I brought up to him: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry68863804 The answer is simple: It's because it isn’t in the Bible! Mainstream Christianity doesn't teach temporary punishment or something like a Catholic 'purgatory'. Bema Seat Judgement is correct It is where the raptured saints & the resurrected saints of the past (dead in Christ) get their 'rewards'. The word Bema in Greek literally means 'Judgement Seat' (βῆμα). During games in ancient times, the victors are rewarded. There is NO PUNISHMENT dished out during the BEMA seat Judgement. Therefore, this event should not strike fear and dread in believers, as opposed to what you are promoting. Its a 'prize giving' ceremony. Now, the degree of rewards depends on how you live/obedient in your Christian life here, AFTER you have received salvation through faith in Christ. But its still a time of joy for everyone nonetheless. Here is a verse from the Parable of the Talents: Matthew 25:23 His master replied, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!' I believe though, that all the saints will be given different tasks of differing magnitudes, during the 1000 year millennial reign, according to what they were rewarded with, at the Bema Seat Judgement, among other rewards (5 types of crowns, etc) Here is another verse : 1 Corinthians 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. The verse above tells us to come to the foot of the cross for cleansing. We can always go to the Lord in prayer to ask for forgiveness with a heart of repentance. That is what our loving heavenly father wants us to do! To draw close to him. We are washed by the blood of Christ & cleansed of our sins when we go to him. So tell me, how will there be condemnation after you die? Why the need for 'maturity training' or whatever u call it? Regarding your verse : 1 Corinthians 3:15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved--even though only as one escaping through the flames. The above verse is perfectly applicable to those death-bed conversions that somebody mentioned. They will be SAVED by the skin of their teeth, but most probably will not get much rewards at the BEMA seat Judgement simply b'cos, well, errrr.......they only had say a total of 10 mins as a Christian in this life? Regarding your other verse : Matthew 25:30 Now throw this useless servant into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' I think this is whr we disagree. Those cast into outer darkness are non-believers. They were NEVER Christians in the 1st place. Also, most scholars agree tat 'outer darkness' in this context means eternal punishment/hell. This verse says nothing about immature Christians who require further training in the 1000 year Millennial. Its either u are SAVED, or NOT. Simple. As i said b4, all Christians are overcomers. In which capacity will they serve in, during the Millennial reign of Christ, depends entirely on what they were 'rewarded' with at the BEMA seat Judgement. Finally, please explain yourself on what you quoted (i higlighted in BLUE above). Thanks! QUOTE then can you say the throne is God and a physical Lamb? Or it is the wife of the Lamb and the mother of the believers errr......i said no such thing Fact is, the Bible mentions that it is the home of the resurrected saints & it's definitely visible to those who populate the Earth during the 1000 year Millennial Kingdom. While they can't enter it just yet, b'cos they're still in their earthly bodies, but they no doubt can see it. QUOTE Also, I don't really have time .... but here is something: The first judgment is that exercised by God when the Lord Jesus was on the cross. The crucifixion of the Lord was a judgment, for the righteous God judged the Lord Jesus as our Substitute. Hence, the Lord Jesus was judged by God on our behalf. Second, in the church age God exercises another kind of judgment, and this is God’s judgment over His house. First Peter 4:17 says, “It is time for the judgment to begin from the house of God.” God’s house, or household, is the church composed of the believers (1 Pet. 2:5; 1 Tim. 3:15). God judges His people so that they may be disciplined, purified, and separated from the unbelievers and not have the same destiny as they. Such disciplinary judgment begins from God’s own household. Therefore, if we are careless in doing things, we shall be judged. Instead of judgment, we may speak of being disciplined, chastised, or corrected. However, discipline, chastisement, and correction are actually God’s judgment. God is always right and righteous, and He will not allow anything under His rule to be wrong. For this reason, He sometimes judges us. The third kind of judgment in the New Testament will be the judgment of the believers at the judgment seat of Christ. After all the dead saints have been resurrected and raptured and all the living ones have been raptured, a judgment seat will be set up for Christ to judge all His genuine believers. This judgment will determine whether a believer receives a reward or some kind of dispensational punishment. Paul says, “We must all be manifested before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for the things done through the body, according to what he has practiced, whether good or bad” (2 Cor. 5:10). This judgment seat is where Christ will judge His believers at His coming back, not concerning eternal salvation but concerning their dispensational reward (1 Cor. 4:4-5; 3:13-15). Another verse that speaks of the believers being judged is Romans 14:10, where Paul tells us, “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God.” This judgment is different from the eternal judgment of God mentioned in Romans 2:2, 3, 5, 16 and 3:8, which will be mainly carried out at the white throne revealed in Revelation 20:11-15. The eternal judgment at the white throne will be after the millennium, it will be to judge all the dead unbelievers, and it will be for eternal punishment in the lake of fire. However, the judgment at the judgment seat of God, or the judgment seat of Christ, will be before the millennium, immediately after Christ’s coming back, it will be to judge all the resurrected and raptured believers, and it will be for reward in the millennial kingdom. The fourth judgment revealed in the New Testament is the judgment of the living at Christ’s throne of glory (Matt. 25:31-46). After the Lord Jesus defeats Antichrist and his army, many of the Gentiles will still be living on earth. The Lord will gather them to Himself and judge them. “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He shall sit on His throne of glory; and all the nations shall be gathered before Him, and He shall separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats” (vv. 31-32). Those that are regarded as sheep will be transferred into the millennium to be the people under the kingly ruling of Christ and the overcoming believers (Rev. 2:26-27; 12:5; 20:4-6) and under the priestly ministry of the saved Jews (Zech. 8:20-23). Those that are regarded as goats will go with their leader, Antichrist, “into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels” (Matt. 25:41). The fifth judgment in the New Testament will be executed by Christ on the dead unbelievers after the millennium. Christ is the Judge of both the living and the dead (Acts 10:42; 2 Tim. 4:1). Whereas the living will be judged before the millennium, the dead will be judged afterward, as revealed in Revelation 20:11-15, the judgment at the great white throne. The unbelievers will be condemned by the Lord because of their evil deeds, and then they will perish because of their unbelief, not having their names written in the book of life. Therefore, at the great white throne Christ will judge the dead unbelievers to determine their eternal perdition. Yes, i'm fully aware about the other judgements, the separation of the goats & sheep at the end of the 7-yr Tribulation as well as the Great White Throne Judgement(for non-believers only) at the end of Christ's 1000 years Millennial Kingdom. This post has been edited by 14-9-2015: Oct 4 2014, 08:05 AM |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 3 2014, 10:52 AM) Anyone here know Hypnotherapy? Interesting to find out how it can help another person with stress, anxiety, depression, sleep disorder and etc. Link - http://www.newmindcentre.com/search/label/Testimonials But I search more, I realize that some discourage Christian to go for it. http://www.gotquestions.org/hypnosis-Christian.html What do you guys think? Yo bro Steven Gai the Bible tells us to meditate upon the Word & His goodness. Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Emptying the mind through hynopsis & all those New Age mumbo-jumbo, frankly, i find disturbing & goes against wat we r told to do. Many a times, that's exactly how non-believers get demon possessed. Try not to give the devil a foothold by taking part in all these 'funny' things. Not NLP ( neuro-linguistic programming ) , not CHAKRA opening & certainly not hypnosis. I submit myself to the full authority of Christ my Saviour. When i'm sad |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 8 2014, 03:32 PM) Oi oi oi it's not just 'Christian girls' okay. Any girl also can do this. You must be dating one that's why come here and ask. u have a Christian bf, of course its easy for you to say la! Where got so many Christian girls to go arnd? And I hope you realise that Christians are strongly discouraged from marrying/dating non Christians because usually it'll become a battle of wills. Your standards and her standards tak sama. Gaduh. Few mixed relationships end up positive. Please respect her decision. That goes for any relationship not just Christians. If she don't want to hold hands, don't. She's not ready for it. If she declare in a relationship but don't recognize the bf it's her insecurity. Try and talk nicely why she's afraid to say it out loud. Is it because of stigma? Pressure? If 'why take so long', why not ask yourself 'why do I want it so fast?' If you can't even respect her current privacy then don't date. Seriously. Don't butthurt and then complain all Christian girls are like that when it's the guy who's pushing so hard for it. Why? Because guy trying to force his way through a girl's heart and most girls feel very violated over that. It's like prying a flower when it's still a bud. You won't get a flower, you'll just get a botak stalk. TDLR: Don't be a jerk. If you really love the girl you'll be patient. If she really loves you, she'll eventually open up. in church only left many aunties. If not, the good ones are all taken, either married or attch. sometimes, even if you expand your pool to include non-believers also very hard to find the right one. What more if just limiting one self to believers. The Bible says, 2 Cor 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 1 Cor 7:12 - 16 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? p.s. Sophiera got any single frens to intro or not? |
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 8 2014, 04:48 PM) Well, for most non believers. Converting is pretty easy. I mean religion means nothing to them, so converting just for the sake of even getting you as a partner(not life partner) is not hard. Why, thank you mr Sylar222. U must b quite the ladies man Anyway, No need to be too desperate. I guess even though I am pretty hard core, I am influenced really heavily by Korean Dramas and I would think that when you love someone, nothing else matters anymore. |
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