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post Oct 29 2014, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Oct 29 2014, 03:14 PM)
Bullish market, expect big year end bonus coming. I work 2 jobs, and got a 3rd job recently. Cook my meals, travel back to Malaysia, stay and eat at my parents' place during the weekends to save cost. All this to pay for COE, ABSD, installments for my tenants so they can have a comfy place to stay. If got extra money left, go back Malaysia jack up the property price, push the inflation high so the local would suffer and less attractive to go back for our own.
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biggrin.gif You sure? Not sure from where I read this morning or yesterday... Although what what what goes up (finance sector profit?), not sure who who who said it's more likely for the bonus to go downhill this year.


Wait... Googling....

Here it is:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singap...on/1440576.html



blink.gif blink.gif How to work 3 jobs at a time. You part time worker? Project based?

sad.gif Good that you can travel back every weekends. I have to swim back if I really wanted to doh.gif

Got tenants lagi... Enough to cover monthly instalment?

doh.gif Don't jack up lagi eh... Younger generation cannot afford to buy house d la.
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post Oct 30 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Oct 30 2014, 12:59 PM)
Downhill from 6 months to 4-5 months lo. Newspapers trying to make other industries think finally now the justice is done to the finance industry people now. No more Swiss Alps skiing for you guys, only can afford private ski resort in South Korea now.

All full time, one required me to sit in the office surfing net during working hours. Others just phone calls and emails, outsourcing most of my desk jobs to others, and meeting with the bosses after working hours.
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Wow... 4-5 months bonus?? Oh my bloody hell sweat.gif sweat.gif


shocking.gif shocking.gif Can like that one kah. Pro!

The main one allow you to have side income?
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post Oct 30 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Oct 30 2014, 09:54 PM)
Possible. But must discuss with the superior. For you, EP cannot  tongue.gif .
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laugh.gif Pakat d la......
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post Nov 3 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 3 2014, 12:28 PM)
ok lar because earlier on a poster in this forum say they review just to do wayang only. Forgot the poster name.
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That wayang is saying the post job ads for 14 days before taking foreigner punya. Not saying the whole application is wayang. Different thing ok...

SG arh... Want to get in easily got 2 types. 1, like they said. Be the elite of elites, then you'll probably get approval straight away. 2, take up the jobs that locals never want to take on.

These are the two groups that I think SG gov is seriously in need. Just my 0.02. Don't take it seriously though biggrin.gif I'm also new here tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 4 2014, 01:49 PM)
Thanks for info bro.

Have to take 3 years to apply for PR? Walao. Why so long? Last time very easy, find job then can get PR, that was in 2009
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Find job then get PR? Where got so bloody easy? biggrin.gif

Now my colleagues... Mostly 2~3 years then apply PR. M'sian quite easy get according to what I heard from my colleague. Some other nations harder to get.

Of course... If you're elite, different story la.

QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 4 2014, 01:51 PM)
Spore not so easy like last time. I think all the country also closing their doors to migration.

But they post job ads to local for 14 days at where? A govt job site? Then only they post at jobstreet, monster and the Strait Times?
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Got a specific website. Jobsdb/jobsbank I think. Why not you find out from MOM website?
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post Nov 4 2014, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 4 2014, 08:25 PM)
hmm.gif can also but Jobsdb not very good. MoM can try.
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MoM is Ministry of Man Power la. What you want to try?

Challenge them? Later you can't work here tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(razo2 @ Nov 7 2014, 07:09 PM)
Hello sifus! Sorry long time didnt troll this chat, been MIA.

Just to explain my situation here, I been try to jump boat to my related skills and exprience I had from Australia. Thus, I currently got an offer from an oil and gas vendor company (due to sign on this coming Monday).

so my question is:

1. I am just abit concerned my current employer will sabo me (maybe i am thinking too much TVB drama). Has that happen to anyone here? My boss already know I am leaving but he doesnt seem not too happy about it.

2. Will both company ever cross each other when it comes to EP processing? My EP will expire end of the year and the company will apply my EP next week. I presume there will a handover one way or another.

Thank you for the time and effort towards my query.
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Jump boat means it won't be in the same industry with your previous company d? If like that then your current company won't be concerned gua.

In order for the new company to apply your EP, you need to get your current company to terminate your current EP first. There's no way you can hold this one and apply another at the same time. At least that's from what I read on MOM website la. If current company terminate then new company apply, sure no interaction between them la. Otherwise if you apply before the previous one cancel, MOM might contact your old company and ask. Then everything will be no secret. Then... You know la tongue.gif

But I'm not sure la... Ask experienced ones to tell you better la biggrin.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(razo2 @ Nov 7 2014, 10:59 PM)
They are not related. I got kinapped by a vendor i met on site.

Thanks for the advice. I read about it on another expat forum. Even if i cancle my current EP, i will be granted a 30 days visa for processing another. So i can serve my time for notice and also apply for the next EP pass. More than enough time .
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is your new company and the old company in a direct relationship? Like main con-sub con that kind of thing. That vendor take up on your current company's job?

Anyway... I think that 30 day is just pure visa. You are not supposed to be working during that period of time right? 30 days is most probably given for people to clear up everything and go back (incase they wanted to leave SG) or for you to look for next job after this one. I'm uncertain about this but you better check.

To clear your doubts the easiest way, why not contact MOM? I'm sure there's some sort of helpline or email address for enquiries.

QUOTE(bcombat @ Nov 7 2014, 11:22 PM)
Folk,

Is it tough to get job in Singapore at this point of time? 7.4% unemployment rate for young degree holders?

http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/m...d-insists-it-ok
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7.4% remain unemployed... It's actually quite low eh... IMO.

Considering that not many degree graduate actually has over 90% employment rate. But of course it depends on the measure of time. How long is used to define being "unemployed"? Day 1 after graduation? or 180 days after graduation?

Near year end might be a little harder. I'm not sure biggrin.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Nov 7 2014, 11:45 PM)
It is on the high side for sure.
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biggrin.gif I don't know la... Just that figure sounds alright to me tongue.gif

Maybe some grads just don't need to be "employed"? tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(AIAF @ Nov 11 2014, 11:20 AM)
Thanks!

I think I'll assume only a year contract.

1) Rent - 600$ - 800$ (looking at single room if possible) Times 2.5 for deposit and agent fee.
2) Transport - 100$
3) Food - 300$
4) Bank account minimum deposit - 1000$

That's 3.4k$. So I guess after adding in miscellaneous fees, phone plan and money to spare it's around 4k$/RM10k then.
Follow up question:

Any way around any of these at all?

1) Rent - 600$ - 800$ (looking at single room if possible) Times 2.5 for deposit and agent fee. Stay with someone I know if possible.
2) Transport - 100$ No way around this I think.
3) Food - 300$  Eat less? lol.
4) Bank account minimum deposit - 1000$ Need professional advise on this.
FYI no I don't have a job secured yet. But I'm looking at relocating next year, so will have to manage my RM savings. Just traveled a bit lately so savings kinda low for now.
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1) Depends on area can get 500~550. Want aircond or anything extra or those higher class area then 800~1000.
2) $100 is about there. Take one day $3~$4 for Public transport then ok. If you don't go out everyday (like weekends?), then it will be lower. Taxi... Travel to and fro work company normally won't let you claim. Travel to/fro any place for company stuff then should be claimable. Most important one is if you work till over midnight, whether company let you claim or not. SG midnight charge for taxi is 50% of meter fare. That's really a lot doh.gif
3) $300 more than enough for me la. But I don't go expensive restaurants all the time la. Hawker centre/food court most of the time, in orchard area also can easily <$10 per day. Still... Provided you don't go inside those nicely decor-ed restaurants la. Those easily blow your $10/day budget biggrin.gif
4) Minimum deposit applies for you because you haven't secure a job. For others that already secure a job and get EP approval (+ applied for EP card at MOM) prior to coming to SG for opening bank account or so, no deposit is required. Just bring Malaysia IC and EP card will do. Passport just bring in case it's needed.

My advice is better secure a job first. Spend hundreds to stay here or in JB and travel to SG while looking for jobs/attending interview will be a wiser choice then coming straight over if you don't have decent amount of savings to back you up.

For phone plan, just grab Singtel prepaid. Buy at any 7-11, just like $15 or something. Top it up any amount you like. But the bad thing is it charges for incoming call. If you expect huge usage in the next 30 days, reload Super $128 that costs just $28 for $100 worth of local calls/sms and $28 worth of IDD/International SMS. For data plan, $7 for 1GB over 7 days. End of the 7th day, if you still have plenty in that 1GB, just purchase the $1 for 10MB over 7 days plan before the expiry date of that 1GB. It will add up and the expiry date will be extended.

I have internet connection in my room so at the moment I'm still using Prepaid.

Singapore Postpaid plans really have many many many extra charges. You pay for global roaming, pay for IDD (like v019 for Singtel), pay for Caller ID (showing number when ppl call you) etc etc. Yes, you can get the phone real cheap but too many extra charges so I decided to keep going with Prepaid. No need to be bonded for 2 years also.

I actually brought just $2.6k over here and that lasted me from end of August till end of October. Not enough to pay my rent for November though.

QUOTE(seantang @ Nov 11 2014, 01:26 PM)
$300 for food? That's $10 a day... like you chap fan with no drinks every meal, every day (or one Big Mac meal each day). If you have a thing for coffee or cakes or junk food or have a sweet tooth or a girlfriend... you can safely double this amount.
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Chap fan with drink also can below $10 a day la... Just see whether you want to dine in those food court only mah biggrin.gif Even in Orchard area I also think is possible. Just that everyday have to just choose between like 4~5 food courts. Other places too expensive biggrin.gif

$10 also can one day two $5 McD meals biggrin.gif

Everyday McChicken/McChicken with Cheese/Double Cheese Burger/Fillet-o-fish or other bigger burgers ala carte biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Nov 12 2014, 08:00 AM)
eat is something very subjective to people..i see some people cook themselves and can control the budget well.
while some people 1 day no eat atas place restaurant will die.. shakehead.gif

most of the time it is depend on one's desire..while sometime depend on your colleagues as well..if they everyday lunch eat atas place..either join them, or leave them  sad.gif
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Agree!! Eating is really subjective... to your colleagues. Whether they always or used to go to those high class places to eat or they don't mind to eat in food courts. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Luckily mine is the more to the later one. Good thing.

My normal meal hovers around 2.7 to 7 depends on my colleagues' mood biggrin.gif

QUOTE(datdude @ Nov 12 2014, 04:13 PM)
Hello guys,
I got offered (confirmed) job in Singapore with start date January 2015 and I'm in doubt whether to proceed or not. For I have no idea what it would be like there.

The offer sound like this:
Basic : $3500 + $150 phone allowance + 3% - 7% commission based on target, reimbursement transportation & other claimable misc
Work hours is 9am to 6.30pm Monday to Friday & 10am to 1.30pm Saturday
Company: SPH

My concern is: $3500 monthly, is it enough to survive?

I've read this thread partly and found that a decent single room is already costing $800 - thats already 20% of my salary
I can't imagine what else is there to consider.
And the work hours is kinda bit too much. I don't know, what do you guys think?

My current package here in Malaysia:
More or less RM 5000 take home monthly, not much but considering I am home that's enough for me.
Monthly my expenses are rather same thus I would have left around RM 1500 till my next salary drawing every month.

So I still am doubting, whether I should take the offer or not. Your advise?  notworthy.gif
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What you need to consider is the savings you still have each month. If you spend $1500 all inclusive each month, you still have $2000 savings every month before considering your commission thingy. That alone is already the sum of your salary in M'sia. It is really subjective as not everyone will like the life over here and eventually going back to M'sia.

RM5000 with RM1500 left every month? So you're spending RM3500 each month? Car loan/house loan or anything that you have to pay? RM3500 each month is really a huge sum leh...

How long is your lunch break? IINM, for EP holder, maximum 8 hours (official) working hours each day, 44 hours each week (5.5 days) *but of course practically, always over one la* If your lunch break is 1.5 hour then ok la. If 1 hour then it is actually illegal to ask you work over 8 hours each day biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Nov 15 2014, 10:38 AM)
6 mths pay slip required with a letter from ur employer.
Havent live here so fast want pr d?
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He just can't stop thinking about benefits of being PR probably?
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Nov 16 2014, 02:39 PM)
I always think the rich here stay in high rise condo with gym and pools, the poor stay in small house in some secluded place you can hardly see people around when I came here. So envy people in condo that time haha. We were poor and brought up thinking we are still poor, if not become ah tiong rich 2nd gen butt hole liao. Sometime I see bangala and lower class got looked down, I always feel the dejavu during early childhood.
Privilege of contributing your 1k to cpf every month, can see cannot use until you near 70? Selling all your properties to buy one hdb?
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biggrin.gif Not that you're poor. But in SG, there are just too many rich @ss. Those driving lambo, ferrari etc especially.


Btw... Why SG so many Maserati arh. Always see Maserati around.




biggrin.gif Sorry I'm from jungle state. If say 25 get PR, 30 want leave also can withdraw everything tongue.gif
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Wow... My cousin is going to work here, in medical field (but not doctor/nurse, I also not so sure what position).

Seriously... In medical field, expat package is really common?

Fresh grad, monthly basic is already high enough. Then that's not all... Housing allowance, 600 each month. Then before start working, most expenses can be claimed too like hotel, flight ticket, relocation etc. Then working on shift got shift allowance lagi.

doh.gif Same fresh grad but salary more than 40% higher than mine. doh.gif doh.gif *I jelly*

Maybe I made wrong decision and went into the wrong field since the first day of my uni cry.gif
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QUOTE(rcr @ Nov 19 2014, 10:00 PM)
If you have courage, start a business in Singapore.

I resigned my job a year ago and now in full time business in Singapore, now already earning 4.5 times what I earn from my previous job salary.
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biggrin.gif Business...

Not really the kind of person with business ideas.

More of the kind of person that thinks this market is already crowded. Not really easy to find some interesting and useful services/products to sell it in the market.

Yeah I don't need anyone to tell me sure there must be something that I can start my business on to start earning money but I just can't figure out what is that. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Nov 19 2014, 11:19 PM)
People here are rich, and most of all, kiasi.

Only foreigners have that allowance from the ministry. My sis work as registrar with PR, get nothing. Training is world class according to her, but pay little, end up go back home serve Jabatan Kesihatan after got the degree.
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Also from Malaysia mah doh.gif

That's why I'm a little surprised that got expat package. Jelly betul!


Can straight ship boxes of items from hometown then make claim lagi.


doh.gif Wrong move, wrong move doh.gif

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Want ask arh...

The term in my offer stated upon 90 days of employment, I'll be entitled to annual leave. Also stated if less than first year of service, will be prorated. Also stated that for first year of service it will be 14 days.

Now my question is... I have 3 months probation. Means after 90 days (3 months), I should be entitled to the leave not given to me on the first 3 months right?

The first 3 months working in the company is it counted towards "service"?

Hopefully yes... Otherwise I'll have to get half day unpaid leave during CNY doh.gif


Btw... Bloody hell the flight ticket from SG to my jungle hometown so expensive. ~450SGD return.

Dare not to take bus to KL then fly from KL. Scare later traffic jam 99 cry.gif

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Nov 22 2014, 08:52 AM)
Try Senai, much cheaper.
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Nah... Not really cheaper. Return flight also over 1k d.

QUOTE(razo2 @ Nov 22 2014, 09:00 AM)
1) if you work less then 6 months is non-resident rate (15%), anything more than 6 months (even 1 day after 6 months) is considered resident rate for your whole income. Follow the bracket for more info.

2) Salary depends on the type of industry you are working at. But at SG, you better get your employer to apply for EP pass for you. Otherwise you can say good bye before your application steps foot on MOM doors. Minimum salary for EP is SGD 3300 (Q1).
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Less than 3300 also possible to get EP but depends on industry and skill la I think. Some industry just won't pay that much but the foreigner is categorised under professional so have to take EP also.

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 22 2014, 12:53 PM)
Some company still will give u annual leave. In prorated .means one day per month.
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Ya that should be the case... But one of my senior told me I won't be given annual leave for the first 3 months even after probation. But that senior always say something without thinking one la doh.gif End of this month then I know whether I get leave for the first 3 months. Just one week away. Lets see.

Btw... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Singapore? Really?? Lol...

I thought you studied engineering related course (I remember wrong person? hmm.gif )? Going into audit firm?
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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Nov 22 2014, 07:21 PM)
I just bought BKI-JHB for 135 rm laugh.gif . SIN-BKI for 70+ SGD this Sept. 2 weeks hol. Malaysian Chinese all go back one, your site will be half handicap with no major works going around, come back early also no use.
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Don't forget that I've just started barely 3 months ago. I'm not even entitled to apply any leave as of now. Not even MC. If now fall sick, only can take unpaid leave. That 90-day period... Applies to Annual leave, medical leave, medical/dental coverage, any other leave you can think off, etc etc But I think that's common in SG.

Now I buy 17/2 back till 23/2. I have to make it this way otherwise I could possibly be using unpaid leave for the short holiday.

Consider one day per month including my probation period pun... I may have just accumulated 5 days annual leave by then. Since I'm on a 5.5 workdays basis, that's already 2.5 or even 3 days of annual leave. Can't really take more.

sad.gif Should've bought the ticket earlier when I can just transit once at KL. My current booking... Transit at KL then transit at Kuching then only fly again from Kuching. Syok? biggrin.gif Both way. Over 12 hours total time from departure to arrival each way doh.gif

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 22 2014, 10:21 PM)
I m in accounting field bro. Maybe different person, haha
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QUOTE(razo2 @ Nov 23 2014, 07:36 AM)
Wah liao sick leave also dont have? The world we live in today makes our parents look like they are having a better work life balance.
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Ya... First 90 days what also don't have one.

Luckily transportation for OT and for work purposes (except travelling to/fro work place) still can be claimed.


But... Unless you're struggling in your work, 90 days pass so fast. It feels like just last week that I arrived in Singapore. Yet it's actually already almost 3 months here. Time really fliessssss cry.gif cry.gif

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