Hi everyone, I would like to seek for your experience or opinion on yslm and I believe this is multi-level marketing.
The site is http://www.yslm.hk/

My sister has been approach by her friend about this program. However I'm afraid my sister could be cheated. Anyone come to know about this scheme and what is your view about this? Is this a scam?

Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I was about to ask the same question too so a bump for this topic.

i want to know to, what is so called E-share?

izit the nan ning project?

HK site, but majority is Malay market ? o.O wonder why

Btw, their domain name is "c@rig0ld" <-- i cant spell it out, auto change to flyingspagetthi - -"



This post has been edited by Azurika: Apr 15 2014, 11:04 AM

Do people really need to be slapped hard in order to make them realize it's a scam? I believe even then, they still will think it's legit.

Its only a scam till company runs with the money, currently is only speculation which is why people believe.

heard that they have a big big advertisment banner at penang bridge there, plan go to have a look at the advertisement banner

yeap..there's a very big advertisement there. stated the future richest person on earth too.
whether its a scam or not time will reveal.

It not a scam for the moment..it has ajl under CDTUP INTERNATIONAL SDN. BHD. But as i know they paying alot using cash..maybe they cleaning some money from china..who knows?

The returns are too ridiculous..

Can I don't find any solid reason that this company will survive.. How is the company going to make money with such a lucrative return?

But if your sister only "invest" RM300 only, its still okay as a bet.. But if your sister invest everything, I have nothing to say..

Yeah!! Agree with your point of view. I told her not to invest even tough it's RM300 per lot as this is pretty straight forward indicating this is a pyramid scheme. How can one be investing with 1 lot and getting free 1 lot and if invest more lots and you will get more fee lots in return. This is definitely a scam and the owner of this program is from China.

Greed is always a good target for this kind of scheme..

Those so-called "investors'' will only continue to pump in money, and this scheme will terminate by itself once there are running out of investors..

looks like scam to me. Get new "investors" & use their money u pay the "old" investors. The cycle goes on like that.

I remember my high school teacher "advice". Can invest in these scheme but make sure u are the the "early" investors, so u can get back your money faster & let the latecomer suffer.. The only risk is are u the early bird or latecomer?

The company actually earn in the flushing amount..yes it was another pyramid scheme..but as long as u pay rm300 then get 2 more ppl under it..and ur rm300 is back to ur hand..who cares whether how much it will earn in future..it just a game..i never trust the e-share part that they telling me will get double in each 3mth grow..just remember greedy end up with nothing left..

Hello guys,

I know some of you may have already come across this YSLM, what do you guys think of this?

Investing RM300, and get paid double in 3 months. RM600, RM1200, RM2400.. and so on



I am not an agent or what, but I am interested in putting rm300 just for fun, see whether can get return onot. But like many people say, should be aware, once the ship sink, you cant get back your money. But you can still get back when it is still around. Maybe put in RM300, and cash back out in 1 year or so?


Is this a legitimate thing?

Need your help!


YSLM

WTH?
There's such thing as free money? LOL!

I think it's soemthing like if its still going on, better invest. Then cash out soon before it ships, its unpredictable when they will run away.

Like one of those ponzi scheme, pyramid money scheme thing.

if can get back after 3 months pun i would be very grateful

Ya..u will inherit blood money. Do you think you can get good sleep while your money is actually got from others blood, sweat and tears?

Not worth that, live is more than money.

Spend on blue chips, longer returns, but at least you will get good sleep.

yea thats the thing bro.. they get ppl money and pay you. then when the membership/market reaches saturation, the cabut.. so leaving hundreds and thousands of new coming ppl who invested even mroe than rm300, maybe some up to rm4.5k and more, lost money. cuz the money is used to pay old members.

blue chip is stock, just googled. lol, im so noob

This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: May 12 2014, 10:48 AM

Ya.. you get your money from your sub and anyone under your pyramid. You conned thousands of ppl. So what makes these guys and Sharizat NFC scandal any different.

There lots of way of making money, but this isnt worth it.

Blue chips offer stable performance, and most unlikely will suffer in long run.

I believe in Karma, if you do this to other people, karma will strike you back, if is not you, it will strike your generation.

Usually this is illegal but they will go through loopholes to make it legal. Of course you can make money from it (by taking others' money). Bear in mind this kind of scheme will not be very long and it usually goes like this:

New company YSLMoney - give people sweets & promises - many people invest - run away with the money when it reaches its peak/ get sued

* After 1-2 years *

New company YSLengzai - give people sweets & promises - many people invest - run away with the money when it reaches its peak/ get sued

* After 1-2 years *

New company YSLanpa - give people sweets & promises - many people invest - run away with the money when it reaches its peak/ get sued

... and keep repeating forever since people are lazy and greedy so this kind of get rich quick scheme will still be working after a few hundred years. They just change the book cover and concept but the method is more or less the same.

So if you want to do it, you must be cold hearted and be ready to con people. If you are like those people who really treat it as an business or investment then you won't be earning that much and maybe you might lose money too.

I already invested at INTAN plan.
Already 3 month so far ok

So have you gained anything?

if u no take up then u continue earn more money

rule no1 of a MLM

they show a lot of 5 figures.

-- then you lost maybe more than 5 figures ..

I had few account invested inside..
This is what the company send me for info..

This post has been edited by Alienwork: May 16 2014, 03:40 AM

wah you dare to invest up to RM 4.5k to such scheme.

I thought blue chips is quite pricey?

Yes it is pricey, yes it its very stable. It yield good dividend.

Anyway, try few others as well.

So shall be a good investments.

Any idea on how many % shares shall be own by an individual so that he can be the director of that company?

Seriously??? U guys believes?

hello sis, did you gain the so called 3-months 18k since you invested in the Intan plan?

most likely she did and it's reflected in terms of "e-share" in her account.
From what i heard, you're suppose to let it roll for 5 cycles..then you have to "cash out" your account and start over.

can someone confirm this? LOL

Just wanna confirm since my dad started invested in this thing. Kinda worry about it.

Huge sum?

this thing is early join earn money , late join loss money

Just the Intan package. But still, it's a lot of money.

Like that huh?

i have a lot of friends tagging me in their FB bout this YSLM and another 1 BossVenture. bisnes they said, like what im doing now ( computer shop ) isnt a business lol.

awal join untung: in the end whatever they said, which is mostly true, and profitable yes, agreed. what matter is , how u wana con people to join under u, they can say it in lots of words, ive been there done that, MLM in the end is conning people to join under u, after they join, then only theyll realize they need to con other people to get back their profits. so if ur ready to sacrifice ur relationship with f&f, go for it. ull guaranteed earn.

me, i rather find money in another way, not this.

This China guy bought alot of local datuks' loyalty already. So the next time you can see he standing next to some datuks that you know and will think it is real.. lol

if its true, maybank, cimb, watever bank in malaysia already invest..
still need those RM300 from so called investor ? sometimes i wonder why still got ppl believe this? u may get the return in earlier part(so that ppl believe that the scheme is trustworthy). but in the end also will collapse

can share more no take up means?

no ones want play the game? just RM300
LOL

Anything mlm by local = scam... Anything mlm by foreigners =/= scam... Ya rite... Waiting for thread losing money in mlm

Should be very simple. U don't cash out then the money will grow compounded which we all know cannot sustain. It's just like gambling your money every month. Hope they don't close shop and run that time. If you're lucky, u hit your target, cash out and run. Else all burn

being said that, I have no vested interest in this scheme. Just from what I can see.

it's very simple and direct. u invest, find ppl invest then you get back capital, and if ur lucky u find many many many ppl then all money come to u $$$$$ and upline.

I really salute this mastermind. no wonder so rich take a bit here and there sure rich like hell.

like all MLM, early comers wins and last one in lose. How long this thing can hold?

Scam!
when will people learn.
losing money in MLM scheme thread coming soon

the china boss of this YSLM really a good talker. have just watched few of his video. the way he speech very convincing. no wonder alot fall for it .

I'm waiting for thread losing money in MLM very soon

PONZI! PONZI! PONZI!

they licensed

Later when Bank Negara jumps in, everyone will start to blame the government..

good luck to you, 老姨

owner

scam la

If scam why police no tangkap them?

Bcos they are still using new members money to pay up old members didvidend. Wait till there are not enough new members to sustain then the pyramid will collapse. Then you will see these suckers cry baby make police report, see politician on newspapers and put up bannner "I want my money back"! History repeats itself.

Join ba since it is still new. Wont collapse so fast.

End of the day, it will just be like Genneva's case where people dont receive their returns cause they took back the gold from existing investor and give it to new investor.

Hello sista...

Rub shoulders with the rich and famous so you have faith ya? Do you know how rich and powerful as the Chairman of NASDAQ ???

The Madoff investment scandal broke in December 2008, when former NASDAQ Chairman Bernard Madoff admitted that the wealth management arm of his business was an elaborate Ponzi scheme.

Madoff founded the Wall Street firm Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC in 1960, and was its Chairman until his arrest.[1][2][3] At his firm he employed his brother Peter as Senior Managing Director and Chief Compliance Officer (Peter has since been sentenced to 10 years in prison), Peter's daughter Shana Madoff as the firm's rules and compliance officer and attorney, and his sons Andrew and Mark (Mark committed suicide by hanging exactly two years after his father's arrest).

Alerted by his sons, federal authorities arrested Madoff on December 11, 2008. On March 12, 2009, Madoff pled guilty to 11 federal crimes and admitted to operating the largest Ponzi scheme in history.[4][5] On June 29, 2009, he was sentenced to 150 years in prison with restitution of $17 billion. According to the original federal charges, Madoff said that his firm had "liabilities of approximately US$50 billion".[6][7] Prosecutors estimated the size of the fraud to be $64.8 billion, based on the amounts in the accounts of Madoff's 4,800 clients as of November 30, 2008.[4][8][9] Ignoring opportunity costs and taxes paid on fictitious profits, half of Madoff's direct investors lost no money.[10] It is also the largest accounting fraud in American history.



This post has been edited by ikanbilis: Jun 9 2014, 08:36 PM

confirm it's scam. the return is too ridiculous..i think illegal bookie also don't make that much of return..

Hati2 ngan org ni... tipu duit org guna nama yslm...

This post has been edited by ahmad nabil: Jun 17 2014, 04:02 PM


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Just wonder how they generate the return? The return is ridiculous. From what I know their source of income is from selling product which are re-branded water bottle and toothbrush. Seriously? I laugh so hard when I see their product page, brand and shop page. Come on. Billion-level company don't have decent design for company website and shop page? The shop page not even working and secure.

Returns are generated by cheating your family and friends. Then your family and friends have to cheat others to cover their investment. The cycle continues until there is no one to cheat then it collapse. The owner will then run to Zimbabwe to start another run of scam.

whoever love to eat, drink and stay nearby puchong setiawalk or sri petaling can join this as member

for this whole month they are offering free world cup viewing party with free drinks at sri petaling there

for setiawalk they are offering 1 month free eat n drink at the coffee house. before this they doing the same thing at the kopitiam

rm300 for membership fees should be more than worth it to enjoy those privilege. especially those kaki minum

regarding e-share i no comment. i am just enjoying the free foods n drinks

lol...i saw my fren keep on posting (to create awareness) that this guy is now in kk, sabah to do the scamming...

and that's why i google and end up here

what is the true story behind the donation at sabah? anybody know?

i dunno, they share all in chinese..ayam banana

yes...YSLM very very very interesting biz right now...on 14-17/06/2014 the founder Mr. Zhang was came to Sabah.... i was join this biz in early january and now i was got my 1st split..so ok la..its true...so keep talk yslm scam..n i still get paid....

mcm muka mat indon jk ni hahaha

have u met zhang jian in person ?

your English is really good.

Was came
was join
was got

u sure about the 1st split?

LOL ..
You pay 300 ..
You get an account - with the money ( digit ) shown in your online account.
You will not really get the 600 to be cashed out from the account on the 3rd months as T&C applied.

In Penang, mostly uncle auntie and alot samseng gangster are the followers.

advise to all is get out before the ship is sinked.

lol my primary school friends who dumped RM24k in this from his ASB, proudly announce in FB all the time. and i never return his call if its regarding these.

1st month: he posted he bought this and that from the profit

2nd month: his fb full of unsatisfied downline questions

3rd month he blames the uplines and all i see now is chaos. lel


im not the kind of person who love to see other people fail. but for this matter, i really do.

Wah u are so proud to earn rm300! Please dump more money to Scammy Zhang say rm30,000 so we can watch and enjoy the show!!!

You are right! We hate to see others fail, but if you are so greedy for easy money despite so many warnings, you really deserve to be broke!

By the way do you have the FB link so i can add him to watch the drame? Much enjoyable than korean drama 来自星星的你

This post has been edited by ikanbilis: Jun 22 2014, 10:33 AM

sabah? hmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrQmVO7zGk

After running from China, Scammy Zhang lands on the bolehland. Wait till he gets busted, maybe you could find him in Zimbabwe to be the world's richest man.

This post has been edited by ikanbilis: Jun 22 2014, 07:36 PM

World's richest man!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.7...43120356&type=1


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?stor...457913117776274

This post has been edited by donalduck: Jun 23 2014, 08:45 AM

Why so many sohai in malaysia? So embarassing!

im so tempted to rub his face lol. or saying i told u so, buy know this guy temper, i probably will end up in a fight instead lol

i never felt smarter when i ignore all his tag on FB regarding his plan. funny hhow he proudly announces his purchase of 20k from his asb on so called lot, and now theres like a gazillion problems he faces. mostly questions from his downline, which is also his friends and family

sad but lol, still have to laugh

Your 1st facebook link is unavailable. Could you please re-post? Ta

Hi all,
In China, it is already in top 10 blacklisted. Now he is in Malaysia using same methods.
各位，近來有所謂“未來世界首富張健”的假慈善家、真老千。可以參考以下網站：http://tw.gigacircle.com/330462-1, 或者是 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrQmVO7zGk

If a civilized businessman, won't be as gangster, right? Why they choose Malaysia? Due to it is a freedom of doing direct sales. Its way doing as direct sales. That's why. Their e-mall very weird. And mostly only the people without knowledge of IT or direct sales.

www.facebook.com/yslmhk

the 300 ringgit is what they call 'the original share', then the pyramid scheme they use is two-leg system, where you need to sponsor your friends and put them in either side of the leg. This is a common system used by majority of the mlm today, the only problem is yslm DOES NOT make profit from products, their only income is the RM300 they are selling as 'shares' and profit margin is 100% since they do not have product cost. In this case, this is the classic pyramid scheme that our government has labeled it as illegal decades ago. Yet fellow Malaysian choose to believe it once again and fall for the trick.

PONZI! PONZI! PONZI!!!!

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...-be-taken-down/

Saw an article in theSun today
DSAM have warned d public to b wary on YSM

Lol...

Scam people using a scam company

Please pm his fb i wanna see the chaos

A DAP lawmaker is demanding to know if the Finance Ministry will investigate a fast-growing direct-selling company.

Segambut Member of Parliament Lim Lip Eng said police had investigated CDTUP International Sdn Bhd, set up by Zhang Jian, a Chinese national who claims to be “the future richest man in the world” and China’s youngest self-made millionaire with his Yun Shu Mao business empire.

“Police concluded that there are criminal elements which fall under the purview of Bank Negara.

“I will write to Deputy Finance Minister Chua Tee Yong today and ask the ministry to look into it in view of the police findings,” he said at a press conference today.

He said the public needed to know if the company was legal or otherwise as he had been getting public complaints since May on its business model.

Lim also alleged that several MCA leaders had been seen on stage with Zhang at various events.

A member has to pay RM300 to sign up and for every member recruited, including by downlines, he will be paid RM50 per person until the sixth level.

Beyond the sixth level, the member will have to top up his membership until a maximum of RM30,000 to continue enjoying the benefit.

Members are also promised stock returns through e-shares and luxury items, including BMW cars, through luck draws when they reach a certain stage of recruitment.

Lim advised the public to be realistic and not to fall for any get-rich-quick schemes.

“There are no short cuts and no free lunch. Don’t be greedy,” he said.

Meanwhile, Gabungan Sukarelawan 1Malaysia (GS1M) lodged a police report at the Jalan Tun H.S. Lee police station against Zhang.

GS1M adviser Datuk Ng Bong Ching said he had received at least 30 complaints from the public on Zhang’s business model which appears to be dubious.

“I do not question the validity of the company’s direct sales licence, but its reliance on recruiting new members for income… that leads to a pyramid scheme, rather than selling actual products.

“Many people are attracted because RM300 is not a big sum and the promise of enormous monetary gain without doing any real work is way too tempting.

“If the scheme goes on long enough, Zhang will certainly be the world’s richest man at the expense of Malaysians.”

He added that GS1M had no intention of tarnishing anyone, but it wants police to look into the matter before people lose their hard-earned money.

A check with the Chinese embassy also revealed that Zhang had been detained five times in China for operating a get-rich-quick scam through his business empire known as Yun Shu Mao, said Ng.

GS1M president Tunku Muhammad Shaharil Tunku Mansor was alarmed that Zhang had been showing photographs of him taken together with ministers and political party leaders.

“Zhang is trying to portray as if the authorities have consented to his business,” he said.

Zhang had also been promoting his business aggressively, including in newspapers, magazines and a giant billboard at Penang Bridge.

Majlis Perbandaran Seberang Prai (MPSP) recently said that the advertisement along Penang Bridge will be taken down for flouting regulations.

Attempts to get in touch with Zhang’s websites at www.cdtup.com and www.yslm.hk failed as both websites could not be accessed.

A TRP reporter went for an event last night where Zhang was supposed to attend. However, he failed to appear.

haha rearrry in ur face la, YSLM lel

heard is busted and the big boss is run away dy