I have a friend, he is now involving, and he is in trouble wanting to get out from the company. They now showing u the magic, slowly u will discover the contradiction of everything from them, eventually leading u to the saving plan things.

This post has been edited by V~Guardian: Nov 24 2013, 04:57 PM

btw, their website is http://hrovision.com.my/ hv a look.

Your friend is agent or client?

being recruited but new

Why having trouble to leave them? They holding anything that belongs to you?

Last time I work in this company. They are now doing magic. Same old trick. The boss is Terence Liang Chee chong, he will ask people to stop study. All his staff are very young, easily to brain wash. he always ask us to use charm on customers.

This post has been edited by malice_k: Dec 4 2013, 04:45 AM


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I was one of them back then, three years ago. Yes the above photo is the boss, earning big bucks behind all these. He is definitely more than able to pay all the bills and what not, as all agents recruited under this company fall below his downline, including all the senior and junior ones. And each sales generated from each of the agent in this stream of downlines will contribute to his commission. How it works is exactly like MLM, just also as other insurance agencies.

If you ask me, I would advise one to join an insurance agency rather than joining them, just to not be so unethical. I've seen how they closed sales, as they always have a day where they gather all agents and go for cold canvasing (not exactly like cold calling, cause they don't call) They go to areas with a lot of shop lots, and distribute the areas and walk in one shop by one shop to approach business owners or staffs, even offices above the shoplots. Before all these, we were required to go in a big group, one shop to one shop, passing balloons and shout "good morning, have a nice day" to create awareness (which is so ridiculous thinking back omg). And one of the senior who joint field with me helped me to "close sales" (she is driving a beemer now, which were funded by innocent customer's hard earned money, what a pity). And I finally see how unethical they way they do it. which was why I decided to quit, as I feel so sad for those customers being cheated, feeling so shameful. I can see how hard she tried, and customer still refused, but she will just keep trying (I have to admit that they are sooo motivated and persistant), and in the end told the customer, you can pay a deposit first (asked customer to pay at least RM5-20, depends) and said that they can call me to cancel if don't want after considering, and it will be refunded (which is totally bullshit if case has been submitted). Luckily I hesitated submitting the cases. And when customer called and told me he wanted to cancel, I asked her what should I do, she just said then don't submit, but doesnt have to refund the deposit (she said because it is meant to be a deposit, it is supposed to be burned if cancelled).

Are they doing sales or recruitment? They do BOTH. they recruit people hoping to get in more sales. And to them its a number game, when you recruited more, the probability of getting sales is higher.

And yes they have all kind of meetings, where the seniors were brainwashed to make sure all their downline attended. Every morning, they will have a sharing session. Where they get a senior (or those being deeply brainwashed) to share on a value they live. And it is really common to have sharing session where the speaker will cry and say how this job changed their lives totally. Like testimonial session in a church, cause this boss likes copying, and he is a Christian. (It is okay for a religion to share testimony, but being copied for a wrong purpose is sin).
And they will keep you till very late for recruiting session at night.

The concept they promote by the boss, is to earn a big buck fast, and then you can achieve your dream. I remembered clearly, he said, we didnt ask you to keep doing this for the rest of your lives, you earn your first million and then you can start your own business or what not, your dream. This explains why this is unethical also, insurance requires after sales service, even for savings plan, as there is also basic sum assured, if anything happened, the customer should be able to get the agent to help them on claiming! Ok, this aside, now that some of them have earned big money, but do they started chasing for their dream? NO. Cause eventually, they will give up on their dream seeing that their dream don't generate these monies, which is essential for them to fund their car loans and mortgages, and of course, their branded luxuries. I do have some of them as example.

Now when I see so many stalls of 'I love magic' around in all shopping malls, I though maybe some of them are chasing their dream (I don't know, I mean, maybe some of them have dream becoming a magician or what, or start their own business on something they really have passion, as I was really confused, these stalls definitely don't generate income as much as they usually do, and they surely won't spend time like a normal promoter standing whole day at the store which is very contrary with what they've being brainwashed). But only now when I see that this is a scam for them to continue cheating people, sigh, I just hope less people will be cheated.

Pray for Malaysia.

^bewareoffisher

I'm glad that you've retreat from joining this bunch of so unscrupulous people. What made them so hungry until have to behave such way? They are more like conman seriously. I have seen a lot of them in wangsa maju LRT and also Festival city mall.

Anyway, how long already since you left them ? Are you a student ?
I've heard a lot of cases where they successfully persuade those student to quit study and join them, especially those from TAR.

I was a student back then, and lucky enough to have left them just after few months joining them, told them I need to focus on studies. Yes quite a number of them quited to 'focus' on their 'business'. Some even went back to their school without shame, and recruit their ex-classmates when their classmates were curious why they left studies. Then they'll show them how well they are doing and all.
I would say being brainwashed is the major driver to their behavior, and they wouldn't even realise that they are conning people. Now that all these are being shared widely on facebook, I totally know what the bosses and seniors will defend their acts, saying that people are just being jealous, that they should ignore what others say about them etc.

ya 1 time kene 1 of their girl tahan..

and this my conversation...

PS:tons of bad word... don't hit it and read!


+ this kind shit, just reject it, my 2 cent

for bewareoffisher

once u saw them, get ready to snap them and post it at everywhere... let them what is call REAL bisness

1 word, IGNORE...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=617...&type=1&theater

^ hit it and read it...

well after reading all the comments it just sounds so familiar with all those 'Skim Cepat Kaya"..

Their ultimate goal is never selling any product but keep recruiting ppl to reap off their money..

Their usual target is always people seems in need of money e.g. students for obvious reason..

there will be no any scheme that will guaranteed return anything higher than 8%...

These company will never die.. once they get complained.. they shut down and move on with a new name.. afterall how much does it cost to set up a new comp..

All those fancy cars.. just a way to tickle you to feel that this is the way to get rich quick..

nothing will get you rich without doing anything.. swallow the fact and you wont have to keep paying for "lessons"

Yeah , i used to join them for 2 weeks training .
after the briefing they provided ,they force me to pay the money for the UOB license .
yes, they used a lot technique to cheat ppl to buy the magic trick.
at that time i felt they're misleading and unstable . so i quit...

They re now come back to recruit for magic stuff

How u know?

so far still got any updates regarding them??

Hi Sister Mnet, your downline is waiting for your response at the YSLM thread. He is bleeding and confused right now. Appreciate your immediate attention to this matter.

Link Mana?

i'm not free now as attending meeting

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3191224/+160