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post Jun 14 2014, 03:36 AM

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for me distribution is the best time to top up. I'll get a lower WAC.
btw at the end, the fund performance still rule whether better or worsen than FD return.
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post Jun 14 2014, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 14 2014, 12:14 AM)
Dude - U gotta hand it to them marketing BS lor.
<insert curses and hexes for evil marketing BS people here> tongue.gif

Can con ppl about laying more eggs during distribution BUT didnt tell whole-truth - them eggs all smaller eggs and if one weighs them, dagnabit - total weight same!  doh.gif
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an agent told my friend to invest in a certain UT, because they are going to announce dividend distribution soon, and then switch back to another UT from the same fund house, all because want to chase the dividend distribution.

explained to him about NAV and the value before and after div distribution. the kind of marketing people use these days rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jun 14 2014, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 14 2014, 12:14 AM)
Dude - U gotta hand it to them marketing BS lor.
<insert curses and hexes for evil marketing BS people here> tongue.gif

Can con ppl about laying more eggs during distribution BUT didnt tell whole-truth - them eggs all smaller eggs and if one weighs them, dagnabit - total weight same!  doh.gif
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Don't lar curse and hex.... It is all about cari makan only. I mean let's look from a psychological point of view. Every day ask money from uncle & auntie, never give anything.... Lama lama, customer sure boring wan.

They will kow peh kow bu... Why stockmarket got dividend, UT boh eh? Very potong stim wan lar!

That is why UT company in order to play the game and pander to the retail investors come out with something similar, called it distribution and voila! Customers happy, UT companies happy, agents pun happy. And all live happily ever after!

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P/s Disclaimer: I am a UT agent but mainly for myself (to lower cost of transaction and for close family members and friends) I stopped acting smart and telling about how distribution is just an illusion. I just go with the customers level of smartness and play my role I.e, "Wah! Distribution Lai liao! Hoh Sei!"

This post has been edited by xuzen: Jun 14 2014, 07:00 AM
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post Jun 14 2014, 08:01 AM

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Wah wah.. Distribution war again ar.. Lucky pink not yet awake due to world cup.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 14 2014, 06:54 AM)
Don't lar curse and hex.... It is all about cari makan only. I mean let's look from a psychological point of view. Every day ask money from uncle & auntie, never give anything.... Lama lama, customer sure boring wan.

They will kow peh kow bu... Why stockmarket got dividend, UT boh eh? Very potong stim wan lar!

That is why UT company in order to play the game and pander to the retail investors come out with something similar, called it distribution and voila! Customers happy, UT companies happy, agents pun happy. And all live happily ever after!

Xuzen

P/s Disclaimer: I am a UT agent but mainly for myself (to lower cost of transaction and for close family members and friends) I stopped acting smart and telling about how distribution is just an illusion. I just go with the customers level of smartness and play my role I.e, "Wah! Distribution Lai liao! Hoh Sei!"
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GoldQuest, Geneva Gold, Scratch & Win all also cari makan mar tongue.gif
Hoh Sei! bwahaha - when stupids insist on being thus, we aren't taking advantage right?
Law of the jungle - predator & prey drool.gif
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post Jun 14 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 14 2014, 09:59 AM)
sarcasm as always. some ppl wants UT NAV, forever rising. some ppl wants UT to be distributed. Doesnt matter you label yourself smart or ppl stupidity. At end of the day, some ppl got small profit, other ppl got some gain.

In your conscience, you think these uncle/aunties are stupid donkey, but you didnt realise, you are reacting the same like uncle/aunties...like stupid donkey  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Let me be clearer. It is not easy to explain (try that already) to lay-people distribution is nothing i.e., left pocket to right pocket. So it is easier for me to just play along to their level of understanding. I am not acting superior nor inferior. I am just trying to come on par with their level of understanding.

Don't be so butthurt... go get yourself a KY jelly.

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Even if the NAV is RM 3.50/unit (E.g. Manulife managed UT), and you only have RM 100.00 to invest... you still can invest i.e., you get 42.8571 units which works out to be RM 150.00. The affordability is psychological.

Actually, the best UT can be quantified. Academians will say the best UT will be those that sit on the efficient frontier as defined by Markowitz Modern Portfolio Theory. The tools that measure the best UT are Sharpe, Sortino and my fav... Modigliani Ratio. But try telling that to uncle and auties. Waste saliva only.

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 14 2014, 10:24 AM)
Another sarcasm, thinking he is the predator & uncle/aunties is the prey. Comparing UT equivalent of GoldQuest, Geneva Gold, Scratch & Win. Yes, some ppl are gullible but ask yourself, have you been in that position b4?

No? Many times, but your inner conscience say, "i am smarter than before and before that". "I am not that stupid, to buy that"

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Learn to understand that U are not the recipient of the intended sarcasm.
Y U so butthurt when Xuzen no butthurt?
sigh..

And if you're so intelligent, U would have understood that i was talking about the BS by agents & marketing on distribution being lies, like the lies about "returns" from GoldQuest, Geneva, etc.

Damn.. some inferiority complex ARE justified..

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jun 14 2014, 11:59 AM)
i didnt butthurt at all, just to educate yourself and others...the reality of life.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ah.. so now U are my self proclaimed educator?
laugh.gif rich..
thank U ar.. but i dont take BS well
come with facts and figures - not benda halus & invisible stuff versions of reality pls

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post Jun 14 2014, 05:05 PM

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Wahhhhh...just in one day my aiman growth become -ve...
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biggrin.gif That distribution thing again ah? LOL. No going to waste time reading all the posts; to keep it short, RO Player got it wrong. How good is a fund depends on its consistent returns; it can never be measured by its distribution income.

Distribution income is good when you already have a sizable fund and are depending on the distribution as a regular income. This is when it would be good to switch from growth funds to 'dividend' or 'income' funds that has annual distribution policy.

BTW there was a post that all the non-EPF investments are registered as a pool in a single name under a trustee (assigned by fundsupermart); the distribution income will then re-distributed. I wonder how the trustee handle this re-distribution when there is "distribution equalisation" involved.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 13 2014, 10:52 PM)
Completely and totally incorrect.
Or do I need to @summon Pink to explain to you further?
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I gave up trying to explain this, Post #1 has everything I have to say on this topic.

If after reading Post #1 CAREFULLY and still don't understand, I rest my case. tongue.gif

Furthermore, to explain or not, I also see who is asking. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 14 2014, 08:01 AM)
Wah wah..  Distribution war again ar..  Lucky pink not yet awake due to world cup..  tongue.gif
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Didn't u know I never read a single word of that p*ssycat's post? tongue.gif
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When I was about to focus on Europe, they said it's getting expensive.

Are European Assets Still Cheap?

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post Jun 14 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 14 2014, 06:07 PM)
Didn't u know I never read a single word of that p*ssycat's post? tongue.gif
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And it all started since the GGC kopitiam days if I'm not wrong..
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post Jun 14 2014, 10:24 PM

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Anybody knows when will be the next FSM promotions?
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post Jun 14 2014, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 14 2014, 09:37 PM)
And it all started since the GGC kopitiam days if I'm not wrong..
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 14 2014, 10:24 PM)
Anybody knows when will be the next FSM promotions?
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hmm.gif maybe July/Aug? for the 2014/2015 Recommended Funds promotion?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 15 2014, 04:48 AM)
hmm.gif maybe July/Aug? for the 2014/2015 Recommended Funds promotion?
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OK.. Hopefully la.

My AmDynamic sold out $$ sitting in CMF. Waiting to deploy some of it.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 15 2014, 08:10 AM)
OK..  Hopefully la.

My AmDynamic sold out $$ sitting in CMF. Waiting to deploy some of it.
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sold all?

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