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 Betta splendens Fighting Fish Club Ya'll! v2

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post Jul 26 2006, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Jul 25 2006, 11:26 PM)
Haha.. main saje la, I failed in keeping guppy, because of my filter got problems, even though change the water 2 times a day they still died in the end, sigh....  so decide to try out a betta.

Just now went Pets Wonderland, bought the Hikari Betta Bio Gold for my betta, it seems to like it very much. I wanted to get the water conditioner too, but can't find those posted here on the forum, only saw one black water product by the Ocean something brand, rm 13.
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your guppy deaths could be due to many reasons - and changing water 2 times a day could actually be worse instead of being helpful.

again that depends on # of guppies vs tank size vs filteration system vs # of times fed per day vs amount fed per feeding.

btw food from Hikari's good. smile.gif
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post Jul 26 2006, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(yewlin @ Jul 24 2006, 01:38 PM)
hehehe yah that's why i said hard to take the picture loh laugh.gif

hope you take care of him yah...if got ppl want do let me know i got fews HMPK which is very nice carry melano gene one smile.gif

price will be higher than ur coz bigger size smile.gif
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Waa..V2 already tongue.gif
Yeah..dun worry, will try ma best laugh.gif

BTW..have Questions:
1. anyone here from Penang and know pet shops at penang/butterwoth that got/sell betta's stuffs,live food,etc2 especialy for Betta??

2. whose got java moss?? or who knows where can i find/buy them? [if can..penang laugh.gif ] want 2 plant moss, haha.

thanks

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post Jul 26 2006, 08:46 AM

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Give him some time. Maybe he's adjusting to you. It helps also if he has some place to hide like some of those fake silk/cloth plants.
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post Jul 26 2006, 12:17 PM

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Yeah, usually when he is not swimming about he is hiding behind those little fake plants. He will flare at my finger sometimes when I put in front of him and move about. This morning I put 5 hikari pellets in for his breakfast, the fella so greedy, gobble 2 pellets one after another, and start on the 3rd..then he spit it out again coz his mouth is still full.
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post Jul 26 2006, 08:59 PM

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Would like to ask..
What is the diff..N how to differentiate Plakat, HMPK, and HM?

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post Jul 26 2006, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(yuekuan @ Jul 26 2006, 08:59 PM)
Would like to ask..
What is the diff..N how to differentiate Plakat, HMPK, and HM?
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HMs (halfmoons) are long finned, has 180 degree spread, i.e. the tail fin is like... half a circle. Has 4 rays and above, although really good long finned HMs are mostly found with 8 ray branches and above.

HMPKs (halfmoon plakats) are the short finned version of the HM. Mostly has 4 rays. Due to the shorter finnage, needs less support to maitain the 180 degree spread.

Plakats are short finned betta splendens. May or may not have 180 degree spread. Split into 3 categories now: traditional, show, and symmetry. But you dont need to know the difference unless you're into competitions.
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QUOTE(yuekuan @ Jul 26 2006, 08:59 PM)
Would like to ask..
What is the diff..N how to differentiate Plakat, HMPK, and HM?
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diff in tail shape lol laugh.gif
if adult betta,can diff by the tail shape, but if juv..better breeder here answer tongue.gif
Plakat = short tail
HMPK = short tail version of HM.
HM = tail like moon cut in half..erm, 180 degree [correct me if wrong laugh.gif ]
more specific better otai2 answer..haha. i'm oso noobie.

BTW, here the link with pict -> Betta's fin

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QUOTE(nazisson @ Jul 26 2006, 03:46 AM)
Waa..V2 already  tongue.gif
Yeah..dun worry, will try ma best  laugh.gif

BTW..have Questions:
1. anyone here from Penang and know pet shops at penang/butterwoth that got/sell betta's stuffs,live food,etc2 especialy for Betta??

2. whose got java moss?? or who knows where can i find/buy them? [if can..penang  laugh.gif ] want 2 plant moss, haha.

thanks
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I think you can get all stuffs you want from Chew Thean Yang (Jalan Burma) and Kean Weng (Air Itam).
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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Jul 26 2006, 09:17 PM)
HMs (halfmoons) are long finned, has 180 degree spread, i.e. the tail fin is like... half a circle. Has 4 rays and above, although really good long finned HMs are mostly found with 8 ray branches and above.

HMPKs (halfmoon plakats) are the short finned version of the HM. Mostly has 4 rays. Due to the shorter finnage, needs less support to maitain the 180 degree spread.

Plakats are short finned betta splendens. May or may not have 180 degree spread. Split into 3 categories now: traditional, show, and symmetry. But you dont need to know the difference unless you're into competitions.
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QUOTE(nazisson @ Jul 26 2006, 09:25 PM)
diff in tail shape lol  laugh.gif
if adult betta,can diff by the tail shape, but if juv..better breeder here answer  tongue.gif
Plakat = short tail
HMPK = short tail version of HM.
HM = tail like moon cut in half..erm, 180 degree [correct me if wrong  laugh.gif ]
more specific better otai2 answer..haha. i'm oso noobie.

BTW, here the link with pict -> Betta's fin
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Ty both!!
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post Jul 26 2006, 10:46 PM

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Le Bleu yesterday:
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Water conditions are good - checked it already - but he just doesn't want to blow bubbles. No clamp fins either and he's feisty too. Dunno what's wrong with the fella. Gah. I'm hoping he'll start blowing some bubbles after his next water change tomorrow.

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Anyway, for those who are wondering how to go about setting up a nice bungalow for your fish, here is a glimpse of mine!

Tank set-up (10x10x8 inches):
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post Jul 27 2006, 10:11 AM

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Lovely fish..hehe, nice setup too. I think I've give my betta another week or 2 to adjust before moving him into a larger tank.

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post Jul 27 2006, 10:51 AM

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Jas: Do take care with the water change and condition. My fish is still recovering from ray thinning. Treatment started like nearly three weeks ago. Some of his rays are still a little thin but overall, he's doing much better.

Am keeping an eye out for curling too. Might just put his tank in the sun once a week to avoid that. Hear it helps. Of course not too long la. Nanti he'll be cooked.

Btw, are those plants sharp or pokey??? (They look like it. *nervous*)
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:00 AM

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nice double-ray meiteoh. smile.gif yesterday i was at Pet Safari looking for betta - no nice ones around. sad.gif

oh well. btw the curling thing - i really hate it when it happens. (who doesn't?)
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:08 AM

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Goldfries: A lot of the CTs I saw at places like the petstore at 1-U and Family Pet Center are not very nice. They are either too fat or inactive or dead and their rays are in really in 1) bad shape, or 2) weird looking.

I got Le Bleu at Irene Aquarium near my house and at that time had to choose between him and a red CT. Yesterday when I went, they had some pretty good ones (located near the entrance of the store - the ones near the goldfish/fishes are the cheapo ones) but satu dah mati. Bad sign lor...for me at least.
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Hmm, I wonder too if they are pokey. Later tonight mus press and see. So far didnt really see much poop, I think I will change some of the water tonight since it is already the 3rd day. Is it better to change all the water or just suck out the poops?
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Jul 27 2006, 11:08 AM)
Goldfries: A lot of the CTs I saw at places like the petstore at 1-U and Family Pet Center are not very nice. They are either too fat or inactive or dead and their rays are in really in 1) bad shape, or 2) weird looking.

I got Le Bleu at Irene Aquarium near my house and at that time had to choose between him and a red CT. Yesterday when I went, they had some pretty good ones (located near the entrance of the store - the ones near the goldfish/fishes are the cheapo ones) but satu dah mati. Bad sign lor...for me at least.
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yup. exactly what i saw.
color - NO
finnage - NO
body - NO
attitude - a bit....

Pet Safari and Pet Family not so bad la the way they keep betta. at least they're properly contained. i saw Pet Wonderland MV - damn they put in plastic bags like taufufah la.

and i'm surprised Irene actually carry such nice one like your Le Bleuu. smile.gif i'll try to visit Irene today then.

my criteria for choosing a betta is finnage and color. smile.gif although i prefer it if they could come with nice body shape too.

no proper body shape, flare already also don't look nice. tongue.gif

EDITED : btw - i stilll prefer to have PK / HMPK over HM / CT due to the requirements for maintenance. smile.gif PK / HMPK missed water change at least the fins don't curl that easily.

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post Jul 27 2006, 11:17 AM

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I'm noob to betta so I just picked one that looks not as dead as the others in the pet shop tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 27 2006, 11:12 AM)
yup. exactly what i saw.
color - NO
finnage - NO
body - NO
attitude - a bit....

Pet Safari and Pet Family not so bad la the way they keep betta. at least they're properly contained. i saw Pet Wonderland MV - damn they put in plastic bags like taufufah la.

and i'm surprised Irene actually carry such nice one like your Le Bleuu. smile.gif i'll try to visit Irene today then.

my criteria for choosing a betta is finnage and color. smile.gif although i prefer it if they could come with nice body shape too.

no proper body shape, flare already also don't look nice. tongue.gif

EDITED : btw - i stilll prefer to have PK / HMPK over HM / CT due to the requirements for maintenance. smile.gif PK / HMPK missed water change at least the fins don't curl that easily.
Yeah...but CTs are more feisty la. tongue.gif

Irene has good stock ocassionally...but don't go in expecting too much ar. You have to look very very carefully. Semalam I saw one dead RM11 betta - I consider it bad luck lor.

I'm trying to look for green colour bettas at LFS (local fish shops) but haven't had any luck. O'well...Le Bleu is enough for me.

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(Besides, I already have a turtle at the office.)
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:21 AM

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heh. the CT's rays are the one that make them look fierce. smile.gif like some punk.

HMs / Veiltails and such - aiyah they look like someone with overflowing gown. HMs not flaring, their tail practially pull them down. biggrin.gif

yeah i'm not expecting much from Irene. i've not been there for quite some time now. biggrin.gif

anyway here's my un-updated fish site. smile.gif my betta back in 2002
http://aquaria.briancyc.com/index.php?id=g...ta&page=1&pic=8
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post Jul 27 2006, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Jul 27 2006, 11:17 AM)
I'm noob to betta so I just picked one that looks not as dead as the others in the pet shop tongue.gif


Some tips:

1) Look at the fins. No tears, no holes, no putus halfway, that sort of thing. It usually means that the fish was sick.

2) Look at the body. No white stuff, no slime trail, no growth. White stuff = fungus. Tummy must not look like he's going to explode. It means that he has been fed too much and can suffer from indigestion and swimming bladder problems.

3) Look at the fish behaviour. Must be alert, aggressive and not just sleeping on the bottom and look half-dead.

4) Look at the tank. Dirty water is a good indication that the fish can be in bad shape (too much ammonia and what-not). Bubbles indicates that he's at least happy with the water condition or is just...happy lor. tongue.gif

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