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post Aug 26 2006, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(ClieNut Gadget Freak @ Aug 25 2006, 09:31 PM)
Hmmm, is it possible to change a G2's existing braking system with that of an ABS-enabled one? But this will obviously mean a huge investment as well as lots of work right?
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dont think its possible to add on ABS, but not too sure though... but a few years back there was a mechanical vertions called ABS stopper, dunno now still have or not.
but guys....
i belive the brakes are not too bad compared to many cars, trust me, have driven quite a few cars in the same segment...

if u guys really want to improve.... i suggest u get better brake pads like ferodo (spelling correct ahh) and if got the $$ EBC black or green stuff (but green got to warm up before its effective) , and also do brake bleeding often (errr.... i do it when i fell the brakes a bit spongy lah... sometimes after braking hard a few times already can feel spongy),
and then maybe steel braided hoses, but i guess this is an advanced upgrade...

for brake fluid, i personally use dot 5.1, some ppl may say that it will corrode the brake lines, corrotion is due to moisture and air in the lines, so if u do bleeding often enuf like me, this should not be an issue...
BTW, originally the gen2 uses dot4


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post Aug 27 2006, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Aug 26 2006, 11:12 PM)
Alright, I wouldnt know that we have G2 club in lowyat.

Since it is , I would like to summarize up my feeling for havng this baby.

Acquired since May 2005, G2 1.6 grey without spoiler

Pro:-
Nice car, good handling
Engine sound nice and perfect, no flaw until now

cons:-
power responsive not so sensitive
max torque 3.5K rpm
Fu*King accesories such as car doors, dashboard, windows and etc.
Should sack all those bad accesories vendor.
Share some of my experience
1. power window failure
2. door lock failure
The above was fixed. , TWICED, lazy to goto SC again, fed up with them and long wait although no customer.

3. Muffler ---- shattering
4. alarm - on and off (wef this month) due to door is not align and the sensor for the door on off on off.
5. air cond not cold - where is the previous PROTON reputation, [everything is not OK except the air cond is cold enough - Iswara & Wira]
6. door hard to open ---> Please learn from toyota
7. Why no carpet
8. The colour of the seats - easily stain
Response to previous
The FC will come down after 15000km, no worry about that, but servicing for 20000km is around RM400+, please bear in mind
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welcome,
and sorry to hear about your sorrows owning a gen2

but just wanna point out that some of your problem that keeps me thinking a bit...
1. power window... Proton ma... heehee
2. door lock failure.... maybe due to problem no4. ...
3. muffler shattering.... first time hearing, go back and complain, maybe the rubber mounting
4. doors not alighned.... ususal la. usually ppl will ask their sc to align the doors once a year...
5. air cond not cold... mine is cold... hmmmmm
6. door hard to open.... has been fixed by proton earlier this year... so those with late 2005/2006 no problem already.....
7. no carpet? why? all MUST HAVE CARPET?
8. seats easy stain... yes a problem, change leather seats.... heehee

20K km is abt there la, major service, parts like gearbox oil, coolant, brake fluids etc will cost abt 200+ with labour, and add another 100+ for normal sevice... should be ard there la.

cheers

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post Aug 28 2006, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(ClieNut Gadget Freak @ Aug 28 2006, 01:48 AM)
Hey guys, even though i have been driving the G2 for 2 years already, i'm still a bit *duh* when it comes to reading this... Higher numbers mean greater fuel consumption right?
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yes, higher means more fuel.... but that meter is barely accurate la, always show 9L+ but i calculate abt 10-11L,

2 yrs ahh, hehe, mistake in the exhaust thread,.. smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2006, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 28 2006, 06:28 PM)
Please beware of this kind of claimed cables which claim to improve performance and is cheaper than stock cables. For everyone's info our stock cables are actually very high grade cables already not joking. R3 in fact have tested the stock cables to give better HP than those cheap ones. Also my mechanic has a tong full of these type of cables in his shop which failed prematurely.
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yes, its true, no point of changing the cables, stock is still better, so what if they are better in terms of conductivity, but not change the ignitions system?

the only proven cables i have seen is by NOLOGY....
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post Aug 28 2006, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Aug 28 2006, 08:03 PM)
has any1 here tried out the iridium spark plugs? i heard my SC fren said tat it is unstable.. but in which circumstances.. i haf no idea at all..

so... plz comment.. smile.gif
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iridium spark plugs are stable ma, quite a lot ppl using them. try denso IT20, or volker 6VT11, maybe some of then use wrong size (for gen2 u got to use the ones without the washer, some ppl use different model and then take out the wahser and then maybe cause it to become unstable)

but for better power gains try platinum. i am using autolite duble platinum, they are better than iridium. only thing is that iridium is long lasting (with acceptable gains)
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post Aug 28 2006, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(termignoni @ Aug 28 2006, 09:01 PM)
very true indeed.. used it in my saga before, gave much more response compared to SplitFire's cables.. biggrin.gif
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how i wish can get for the gen2, the price is abt rm800.... dunno when can save enuf...

the price for autolite platinum ahh.... abt RM100+ abit can get already,
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post Aug 29 2006, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 29 2006, 09:29 AM)
I hear from the performance kakis at g2c, iridium plugs are the best that money can buy. All of them run on denso's iridium. Platinum is longer lasting but iridium gives better power. Even the price should say something too, platinum ones are i think 80 bucks for 4? but iridiums are 165-210 for 4.
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err... u sure platinum last longer than irridium???? ohmy.gif
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post Aug 30 2006, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 30 2006, 09:29 AM)
sorry i meant platinum lasts longer than stock plugs but no significant power improvement. Iridium it seems gives both.
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ic.... but have u tried autolite duble platinum? ususally the problem with spark plugs is the wear on the tip and electrod, the duble patinum has platinum on both tip and electrode compared to the normal platinum that has it on the tip only. wear will cause inconsistant spark and this reduce power. the only drawback is u got to change it every 40K km (hopefully that long).
i am using it now and i can say they are really good and value for money.

i know irridium is good and last longer, but how is the performance after lets say 30K km? i have used NGK irridium on my previous car but it seems that after about 20-25K km, the performance seems to drop. not yet try on gen2 though.
the only ones that have been proven is volker (on paper)... how is denso or ngk?

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post Aug 30 2006, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(shackks @ Aug 30 2006, 01:53 PM)
rcracer,
wat sorts of problem has they encounter using the volker iridium?
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i have also heard that volker had some problems (from a reliable source) but then again its an isolated one... but then ppl cannot deny that it really does increase power on the dyno...
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post Aug 30 2006, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 30 2006, 01:38 PM)
Personally i have never used any other except the stock ones, what i said here is based on what i've read or heard from them. One member had some issue using volker iridiums though.
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hey, pls lah dont listen to other ppls theory, use them urself cause everycar although similar are always different... smile.gif

but i do really recomend duble platinum to u,
cheers... smile.gif
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post Aug 30 2006, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Aug 30 2006, 07:52 PM)
since that u so recomend this double platinum, wat is the part number?
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autolite double platinum
part no. APP104
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post Sep 4 2006, 12:19 PM

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yup, RM180 for KnN is damn cheap, the last time i bought was abt RM240, very good basic mod... better throttle response too... buy now or regret later...
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post Sep 4 2006, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(shackks @ Sep 4 2006, 12:29 PM)
IMO, the fitter must match with additional CAI or a very basic one to feel the effect...

Or else, like me now, dun feel a thing.
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yaya, agree.... my fresh mod, just done this morning... hehe, not yet even testing. now resting for lunch. later will do another hose to the front (maybe to the foglights)... heehee


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post Sep 4 2006, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Sep 4 2006, 12:56 PM)
this setting cannot lah. Not much fresh air enter in. DO not aspect the hood gap can bring in cool fresh air.. This kind of setup tend to trap more hot air. If your temperature rise up, this setup cannot use.
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what about adding another hose from the foglights to the heatsheild? i did make a heatsheild in the pic, sorry la the pic not clear.. smile.gif

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post Sep 4 2006, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Sep 4 2006, 01:02 PM)
another easy way is pull the heatshield pipe and screw it on the existing snorkel location.

If that setting also no feel. DO anaconda/tahi lalat
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yaya, was thinking anakonda/tahi lalat (take out one fodlight) to the heatsheild box (make another hole), dint want to put the hose direct (although ideal) into the airbox... u know la our climate, everywhere flood... hehe...
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QUOTE(JasonKing @ Sep 4 2006, 01:03 PM)
bro ur heat shield not full coverage... i guess direct to the foglights then definately got difference since taking air from outside instead of the hot air in the enjine bay...
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actually it is full coverage, the back part is covered only for a hole for the hose, but cannot see in pic la.... the side is covered till the battery location, and the bottom part is cut to match the gearbox and wiring harness ( alot of work!!)

edit: btw, anybody got pic to share for ideas?

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post Sep 5 2006, 08:47 PM

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serious or not, teach us how to do it...

but i personally think the meter or the float in the fuel tank got problem... that kind of FC is impossible to achive in a gen2
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post Sep 7 2006, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(shackks @ Sep 6 2006, 03:02 PM)
me interested to find out too...

But i really wonder the difference it made between the NGK and the Autolite.
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usually platinum plugs have only one sided platinum, that means that the platinum is on the point only (dunno what is the correct name for the tip), but not the electrode.

what autolite has is platinum to platinum firing, that means that both the point and electrode, thus a cleaner spark for a long period, both tips are also flat (not like iridiums needle piont).
thats the difference.

btw, it u are going to try NGK G-Power, then better save your money, NGK VX is slightly better than stock (i tried both of this on my previous ride). but if u are going to spend that kind of money on a VX, then better go for autolite smile.gif

and where to get them, i ask my friend where he got it... but good spare parts shop should stock them up.
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post Sep 8 2006, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(shackks @ Sep 8 2006, 08:26 AM)
pacer,
do get info of price range and where to get it as I'm gonna change my plugs soon.

Now depends on wat to get. Tot of getting the IT-20 which cost at the region of Rm16x.

Thanx bro. biggrin.gif
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the last time i paid rm100 for it. if not wrong my friend bought it is pj area...

IT20 also quite good.... try la... smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2006, 03:09 PM

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yep...
proton use premix coolant for our cars but they say its 100% coolant. this also usually applies to continental cars such as renult and citreon which uses valeo coolant that comes in premixed packs.
there is also coolant that u have to mix with one part or two parts water depending on ur vehicle specs.

btw, dont even think of putting 100% non premix coolant in your car.

coolant colour is usually red or green. the green is ususally the normal one that are used on many cars however toyota came up with the red one which is long life coolant...
note that i say usually cause its better not to judge it by its colour.... smile.gif

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