even if not confident to take B full....i say suck it up and get the B full.. not worth it to get B2 first if u plan to upgrade later. hell even if ur not planning to upgrade, still go for B full. B2 only if you are really tight on money.

as for B1, i remember reading somewhere it was abolished so no longer can take B1 license.

while i do agree with that opinion,
i think its vary from person to person,

when i take my B full, one of my session was with a guy who never ride a bike before, and he go straight for B full,
he already fail 3 time and pay for extra training after failing the jpj test,

imagine how i have to explain to him how to balance the TiTi or keeping the motorcycle running on L turn on low speed,

So yeah i think experience do play a vital part here,

if TS serious about riding, yes i do urge TS to go B full

i also agree that it varies for individuals. i met those who went straight to B without prior experience and they can't even handle the kapcai... which is pretty tough.

i also went straight to B without prior experience, but i have been mountain biking since my secondary school days and am pretty competent on the bicycle. driving manual helps to...

so if TS is competent on the bicycle then B2 is just a tiny step up (basically bicycle with a engine) and can safely assume that it is a phase that you will get over quickly. in fact i rode the big bike for a few lessons before i ever got on the kapcai for the first time and it was insanely easy.

but if TS is not even confident on bicycle then it can be quite challenging.

Had experienced this last year. Went straight to get B full license after years of driving car.

No you cannot reactivate your L license. Now, the L test are more focus on the license you want to take. If motorcycle license, the syllabus is for motorcycle.

I had no past experience with big bike, only yesteryear experience riding kapcai. I say go get the B full.

The rumors I heard, the Singapore way of getting licensed will be followed in Malaysia - you must start with B2 and have it for few years before you can upgrade to B1 & B full.

The fees for getting the license might be cheaper but will take you years before you can get to B full.

Can I get a ballpark range of how much each of the lesen will cost right now?
B2 @ RM ?
B Full @ RM ?

From my experience, I went straight for the B Full few years ago and passed on my first time. Yes, I also fell during the practices (Kawasaki ER6N), once when stationary, another when reversing. It's okay to fall lightly.

All in all, my test was a success on my first attempt. Do note though I previously ride bicycle during my schooling days. Having some notion of balancing on two wheels definitely help A LOT.

Edit : I forgot to mention I have never ridden a bike before at all (kapchai or anything) prior to getting the license. The first time I ride bike was during the time at the practice grounds.

This post has been edited by xyekit: Dec 24 2019, 05:04 PM

I'm middle of B Full.
Bfull around 850 to 1k if no B license at all.

I remember the instructor always remind students never use front brake for B Full. WTH... even riding kapchai i mostly use front brake. Try to follow the instruction made me always overshots during emergency brakes. In the end i just use my usual style make use the front brake and no more overshots.

Sometimes we just need to use our normal comfortable way. Somemore most driving school using bikes with ABS already.

just wondering if one is totally dont have bike experience but owned a D license... should go for B2 or B full straight? As in future planning to own bigger cc bike.. Asked some academy, they say better start with B2, later fall la this and that.. are they being conservative or it should be that way?

Go fornb full straight, then start practising with kapcai first.
Save your time by taking the test twice

Good question, no right answer. In the end, it's up to you. If all goes well, then is fine.
Some tell you B full straight no problem, some tell you B2 then B full.
In some countries, not so lucky, as riders are required to complete a mandatory restricted license period.

Most people I know took B2, then B many years later.
One person I met, took B2, then B full right after that.
One person I know went B full straight after buying a 200kg first naked bike.

If money and time is not a problem, do B2 first, then ride kapcai few years - including clutched kapcai.

this is exactly what I thought, cause I dont have many time to go take the test.. as now I have some free time since RMCO..

when we taking B full... the bike we will use to practice and going for test will be straight big cc bike? cannot be like I use small bike to do test and practice... just that I am holding the B full license?

practise maybe small cc kapcai without clutch to get you started, eventually, you must master the B full bike (Virago 535 or ER6 or some other beginner friendly bike), and quite likely you'll be using the same bike for JPJ test

Yes. you will be using big bikes for learning and test. you said you no bike experience, does that include bicycle? I mean can you ride a bicycle well?

no, i can bike very well, use to be very sakai when still primary time.. riding bike doing all kinds of stunt like coming down from stairs etc..

in that case you should have no problem with jumping on a B full tbh. learning the B2 is hardly challenging for a competent cyclist and you'll probably feel bored of the circuit by your second lesson. with B full you'll have more of a challenge.

but... taking the test and getting your license is one thing, actual riding on the road is another. after you get your B full i suggest carefully choosing a bike that you can manage well.

anyways, what do you intend to ride?

I asked 2-3 academy school.. also told me to reconsider... say "bahaya".. "jatuh payah"... make me shrink a bit... for someone never touch on motorcycle before, dunno how to gauge their definition of can or cannot...

more lean toward bobber or cafe racer style bike (I watch some youtube, saying this is one of easy to manage bike, cause the seat are low, ur both leg also can stand on ground), still looking at it, but think most likely go with cheaper option first, see and test test ngam play and ride onot..

edit:

oh ya, some curious question, those ppl ride those stylo bike / big cc bike, where they usually park? are they still park in those basement parking or road side motorcycle parking? cause I been witness someone stealing 125 bike before, it was damn fast, just a split second they can start their bike can go d...kind of worry this issue also...any thing they would do to enhance security?

This post has been edited by Humanoid: Jun 25 2020, 06:23 PM

Depends on the destination .. then will consider to ride or not, most of the parking lot for motorbike in Malaysia designed with Kapchai size motorcycle in mind, so please get use to this mentality whenever you going out with 250cc and above bike (also those big scooters even though the cc less than 250 but the size is like a big bike)...

When it come to stealing.. 90% of the thief not steal whole bike, but instead they will take some precious parts and accessories attached into the bike, such as their brake calipers and master cylinders.

what should you do man... always park somewhere within ur eye sight?

i don't know what exactly the riding school's position is on this, but i suspect part of the reasons being its simply easier work for them to "teach" B full to those who already has a B2. There are bound to be cases where people could not even understand the operation of clutches in general or who are not comfortable at cycling to apply for B full only to struggle massively. so from the academy's point of view the less hassle, the better it is. this is why i asked about your own competency on two wheels.

the other issues is that the kapcai you learn with for a B2 is really not much different from a granny bicycle (i would argue that even a mountain bike has more aggressive stance) and it doesn't come with a clutch. again i say that it is barely any harder than riding a bicycle, the kapcai is just different from a clutch bike. the 650s they use for B full training have more in common to the bikes than you would be riding compared to the kapcai. since you are riding partly for the fun or it, you probably be looking at bikes that outclass your B2 a year or two down the line.

parking is really dependent on where you go. some places like 1U and Empire subang are very good to big bikes so you don't have to worry that much. most people who use big bikes to commute either commute between home and office where they know the safety of parking, or in malls that have good big bike parking or rarely park it out of sight. if you are talking about a go anywhere bike for general commuting in the city, then i will, as usual, suggest getting a scooter that thieves generally do not target.

honestly, just ditch the school and look for other school that are willing to teach u. Yes i do admit ppl who never rode a bike would become a bit hassle to teach but u already paid them to teach u. Sure its a bit hassle but if customer wanted to do it why not?

from my personal experience... its better for u to take all of them (b full, D license in one go) because u wont have time do re do it when u are getting older or when u are working. for me Big bike got to learn how to properly use clutch and all but if u are keen enough u'll get it in no time. myself need a full year to do B full license not because i cant ride big bike, but because i cant find the time to properly take the test and need to take leave from work just to take the test and what not.

so i say ef the school that dont want to teach u B full and go to other place that are willing.