How does TForce550 BIOS support X2 then? By the way I heard from a vendor Biostar Tforce550 stock throughout the country sold out athlon 3000+ stock does not exist anymore and XFX 7900GT isn't good and he recommend Gigabyte. How much truth is in this??

And btw, I dont live in KL so I hope you guys can clear matters for me and my friend who is rather desperate to get his hands on a new amd system.

This post has been edited by Merlin_of_light: Aug 8 2006, 08:17 PM

I have been check with ATE today and got new stock Biostar TForce 550 just coming today. I'm go there because just pre-order DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 and tomorrow will get then pair with x2 3800+.

so you are pairing x2 wif tforce550 or UltraII-M2? Or both? If Tforce550, or anyone out there who has paired X2 with Tforce550 do tell me if it's OK!

Thanks for d info. I believe am2 athlon 3000+ still available for sale....no?

there is still A64 3000+

Pairing x2 with UltraII-M2.

That's true.

So anyone here with X2/Tforce550 pair?

Why would DFI use an older chipset? Any disadvantages? One big advantage I see is it supports 4 PATA compared to just 2 in newer mobo.

I have a question. Is the stock HSF thermal paste good enough? Apologies, but Im a noob when it comes to AMD.

If it isn't, should I get Artic Silver or Artic Ceramique? I know Silver is the best but where I stay violent lightning storms occur frequently and rapidly. Silver is a good electric conduit. I have concerns about the material increasing the likelyhood of my CPU being fried by a lighting strike right outside my house due to static electricity in the atmosphere. Sometimes the first lighting strikes fall in my neigbourhood, so there's little warning to shut down my PC.

I know some people who used Ceramique for this very reason. Myth, or fact? Please advise. FYI, my room has those old-style narco type windows (was it narco? many glass panels that rotate to close/open by use of a lever) unlike modern glass panel windows which may have greater protection against onrushing static energy from a lighting.

new chip support more sata..
i think that's the only difference.. amd cpu got builtin mem controller.. so mobo chip not affect much..

Bro, if lightning hits your PC I don't think you need to worry about whether you use AS or not... nor should you worry about AS which is sandwiched in between your cpu and HSF will attract lightning or not...

Anyway if you don't OC no need better thermal paste lah, stock temps are usually o.k. I only use it because I itchy fingers, bought a few tubes to play around ...

no no....

I mean lightning strike OUTSIDE the house and fry the PC with static electricity in the atmosphere. NOT via power lines into the PC. If via power lines sorry lar, something or everything will fry. And my room is not air-conditioned. It gets pretty hot at mid-day, even at night.

An overheating X2 is a real concern. Someone told me AMD HSF speed are slower and less reliable than Intel HSF. How is it now, for AM2 HSF?

This post has been edited by Merlin_of_light: Aug 9 2006, 11:58 AM

who's that idiot?

Intel heatsinks are often loud (not sure about Core2Duo). Pentium D is much more hotter than X2.

At stock speeds, even with bump up voltage to 1.5v.... my temps hardly reached more than 45'C on a hot afternoon.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Aug 9 2006, 12:10 PM

Idiot? Haha. I used to say how nooby oth ppl were cos they insist buying P4 or PD over s939 because AMD = OVERHEAT and brand those that insist it was not true fanboys. I know for a fact X2 is cooler and more efficient than PD. But how good is the QC of AMD HSF? Just a concern, before jumping to AMD since most guys I know that use AMD change their HSF on the spot. I plan on doing slight oc'ing only.

there are several OEM that produce heatsink for AMD... I know CoolerMaster and AVF are some of them.

There are many AMD user that do overclock using stock heatsink and does not have any problem at all.

In term of QC.... it takes very long time for the fan to get noisy/faulty.

Great. Thanks for the info. Ive placed an order for X2 3800+, Biostar Tforce550, 1GB Corsair VS DDR667, Seagate Barracuda 80GB 16mb buffer (does 16mb buffer exist for 80GB version? I dont see them in low yat pricelist, but there was in my vendor's)

The only thing holding me back is the decision to buy XFX 7900GT (stock speed) or 7600GT. How bad the 7900GT problems really are? The majority are factory oc'ed cards but some were at stock speed. I'll just have to wait for this question to be answered elsewhere.

try to look for brands that don't seemed to be affected by the problem

i've heard about XFX having problem ... not sure about others

Know any one who has stock 7900GT and runs FEAR and/or Oblivion at high settings and high res for long hours w/o encountering errors?

How well does Tforce550 support overclocking of X2? camedemac, if you see this and is doing oc, do tell.

Picture tells everything dude



with better multitasking (YM!, Windows media player, internet, download, etc) without any prob..!!

OC Speed = 240x10 = 2400 MHz
VCore = 1.328v
Ram = 512MB Samsung DDR2 533 oc to DDR 600
Vdimm = 2.1v
Bios = Latest bios download from biostar site

All i can say, my system rite now is rock solid stable

Edited : Forgot to tell do multitasking while priming my proc.. as stated at picture..!!

This post has been edited by camedemac: Aug 9 2006, 02:07 PM

while using cpu-z (ver 1.35) wrongly report the vcore.. use asus probe should be correct i think.. but for ur case better look on vcore2 temp at speedfan..
i've tried mine untill 2.45ghz.. then stop coz afraid reaching out 1.6v..
acreasing 2.4 to 2.45 will increase the temp merely 60C on load..
2.4 seems fast enough for me.. just playing 2.1ghz for all in stock.. accept tight the ram..
how far can your proc go?

Oh yeah. Great. I should have the system in a few week or less. Only thing is, Im now split bewteen buying Leadtek or XFX 7900GT. Wondering which service is better.

1gb ddr667 ram should be enough for the system for the moment. If loading times are to slow and lags intolerable I'll add another 1gb to make it 2!

i believe that the vcore is correct coz check with all software (cpuz, speedfan, amd software, etc) all give the same vcore..

i never try oc higher coz scared when looking at temperature

i thought the vcore2 is the chipset voltage.

my board is biostar not asus

This post has been edited by camedemac: Aug 9 2006, 03:11 PM

if u look my screenshot here..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=316293&st=80

i really cannot rely on cpu-z.. i saw alot of cpu-z reading errors especially on vcore... donno which one can rely.. but i looked asus probe coz same as bios..

just precaution though if ur correct vcore reading higher than u thought/saw... it could fry ur proc..