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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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MiloIce3in1
post May 17 2014, 11:49 PM

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Tgk signature si dares kat pos atas. Tapi utk full explanation kene pi page yg abe davidke20 bgtau cara detail. Camne nak tau bunyi pam minyak tu jahanam ke tak. Yg aku tau bila bukak pintu ko masukkan kunci, kasik dia dlm keadaan standby dan ko akan dengo uuuuuuttt kat belakang. Tu bunyi pam kot.
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post May 17 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 11:49 PM)
Tgk signature si dares kat pos atas. Tapi utk full explanation kene pi page yg abe davidke20 bgtau cara detail. Camne nak tau bunyi pam minyak tu jahanam ke tak. Yg aku tau bila bukak pintu ko masukkan kunci, kasik dia dlm keadaan standby dan ko akan dengo uuuuuuttt kat belakang. Tu bunyi pam kot.
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ak ade dengar bunyik tu, tp ak xtau yg mana fuel pump.. haha..
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post May 18 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 17 2014, 11:58 PM)
ak ade dengar bunyik tu, tp ak xtau yg mana fuel pump.. haha..
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Aku pun tak nah nampak. Nak tolong taruk sini aku pun tak reti guna hp ni. Time press pedal tu takde sengguk sengguk ke. Atau ko tekan dia free dan kete terus meluncur gitu je

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post May 18 2014, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 17 2014, 10:13 PM)
tak de plak dia naik tgi.. tapi ngah2 speeding fuel pedal trus x respond ..
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Might be speed sensor.
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post May 18 2014, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ May 18 2014, 02:26 AM)
Might be speed sensor.
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My symptom was speedometer drop. Probably it is related to it too. U can try service the tdc sensor drivenheat. Who knows it might solve the problem?

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post May 18 2014, 04:58 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 17 2014, 09:20 PM)
today i drove from pasir gudang to kulai, lima kali mati oo.. start balik dia wakakakakaka.. xhidup.. after few minute baru idup..
cmne nk check fuel pump?
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Kalau lap lap si tdc sensor pun tak mau, ko try bukak satu suis ni. Aku tak tau nama dia. Kalau ko diri depan enjin. Belah kanan ko ade kabereter. Ko lirik mata ko ke kiri. Ada mcm suis atau plug. Ko cabut bende tu. Pastu ko tarik bende yg tertinggal kat enjin ke magnifold ke intake ke apa tah nama dia tu dan ko cuci. Connection dedua belah tu pun cuci sekali lah.

Try je. Tak susah mana pun. Tapi buat tdc sensor dulu. Kalau tak bole gak buat bende aku ckp ni. Tapi tu symptom dia kalau time idle timing ko tinggi. Aku cuci bende alah tu lps aku spray kabreter tapi tak jadik apa. Maka aku cabut bende tu. Aku servis. Pasal ada byk sensor kot kat savvy. Ko servis la memana sensor yg ada. Tiga kali aku jumpa problem savvy ni semua pasal sensor. Nasib aku teka betul. Tak pun tunggu otai savvy lain bagi pendapat.
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post May 18 2014, 05:02 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 11:49 PM)
Tgk signature si dares kat pos atas. Tapi utk full explanation kene pi page yg abe davidke20 bgtau cara detail. Camne nak tau bunyi pam minyak tu jahanam ke tak. Yg aku tau bila bukak pintu ko masukkan kunci, kasik dia dlm keadaan standby dan ko akan dengo uuuuuuttt kat belakang. Tu bunyi pam kot.
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Aku rasa cara ni pun abe davidke20 ada bgtau dulu. Aku tak ingat version/thread ke berapa. Tapi aku sanjung dia ni pasal dia ni teliti la. Bunyi dan ejaan dia type mmg sama. Buahahaha.. Rasanye ilmu tu aku dpt dr dia kot. Cuma aku alih bahasa kan dia. Maaf sifu. Credit to u..
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post May 18 2014, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 04:58 AM)
Kalau lap lap si tdc sensor pun tak mau, ko try bukak satu suis ni. Aku tak tau nama dia. Kalau ko diri depan enjin. Belah kanan ko ade kabereter. Ko lirik mata ko ke kiri. Ada mcm suis atau plug. Ko cabut bende tu. Pastu ko tarik bende yg tertinggal kat enjin ke magnifold ke intake ke apa tah nama dia tu dan ko cuci. Connection dedua belah tu pun cuci sekali lah.

Try je. Tak susah mana pun. Tapi buat tdc sensor dulu. Kalau tak bole gak buat bende aku ckp ni. Tapi tu symptom dia kalau time idle timing ko tinggi. Aku cuci bende alah tu lps aku spray kabreter tapi tak jadik apa. Maka aku cabut bende tu. Aku servis. Pasal ada byk sensor kot kat savvy. Ko servis la memana sensor yg ada. Tiga kali aku jumpa problem savvy ni semua pasal sensor. Nasib aku teka betul. Tak pun tunggu otai savvy lain bagi pendapat.
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sejak bila savi pakai kaberator? fuel injector bang.. hahahahaha.. benda yg den highlight merah tu trottlebody kalo tak silap?

ni serbis trottlebody.. kedai charge rm30.. bukak 4 btg bolt saiz 10, then cuci dlm dia. kalau ble jgn kepakkan butterfly, mintak someone pijak minyak utk kepak butterfly tu. problem jerk gear rendah biasanya ni la solution nya selain cuci tdc (yg cam kapalterbang / berkepak tu).

pasal fuel pump dia duk tgh2 bawah seat blakang.. angkat seat ble nampak. tapi dia duk dlm tangki la.. hassle giler nak bukak. camne aku tau, pasal aku da tukar fuel pump, preventive maintenance, lom rosak pon yg lama tapi dari 2005-2013, tukar je la.

bukak pintu bunyi tu amt motor pump pon berbunyi (melainkan mt la).. kena trouble shoot satu2.. nak senang gi bengkel OB (pandamaran).. try usha dlm tered ni.. cuci tdc, pastu solder wire senang..

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FC for before repair blehh. i think problem is vacuum hose picah~ at the back there. never usik that one. pomen open intake module only say this picah already la. will update on next tank.

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tayar koyak siuuuuut~

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post May 18 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 17 2014, 10:13 PM)
tak de plak dia naik tgi.. tapi ngah2 speeding fuel pedal trus x respond ..
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Bro, itu meter minyak kat desbod ade main perangai kah? Kejap naik abih, kejap tinggal 1 bar blinking? Klu slalu camtu, mmg fuel pam dah mau kaput sad.gif

Klu TDC sensor, biasenye cuma takleh stat.

Klu petrol filter sumbat, naj stat balik pon takleh dah.
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post May 18 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 10:10 PM)
Wakakakaka... Thats the one.. Itu cukup lawak sampai bila bila. 
Proton pun tak diagnos itu mcm. Dia cucuk bende yg bawah steering cuma cakap error ajer. Tapi sifu davidke20 ada cara baik nak diagnos. Power beb.. Power.. Itu mmg tak ble lawan.. Bergegar bahu aku ketawa nih. Baca dua tiga kali pastu try kat kete sendiri. Baru afdal.
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Itu saye tulis bagi Plotong GaGa mia, bukan Shawie whistling.gif Shawie single cam, lagi starter single stock solenoid, munyik talak macam GaGa.

GaGa = Wuekekeke vroom (WUEK - solenoid sambung starter gear & pusing stroke1, KEK1 - stroke2, KEK2 - stroke3, KEK3 - stroke4, VROOM - injin idup!)

Shawie = CEK CEK CEK CEK Bem (cek1 - stroke1, cek2 - stroke2, cek3 - stroke3. cek4 - stroke4. Bem - injin idup!)

Nape beza? Sebab relay wiring beza, starter beza.
Starter jenis sama dgn Shawie - Semua Produa Mybi, Ganjil, Kebisa, Plotong GaGa/Ishwaga lama jenis kotak mancis, Datsun 120Y, Toyol ke70 & manyak lagi.

Yang same ngan Plotong GaGa berinjin Kampro, kebanyakan Hongda performans lama, Civig EK, EG, yg berinjin B16, D15, B18, B20. Yang signature representative bagi starter jenis nie, pi carik Hongda Agord SV4, tunggu owner datang stat keta & dengarlah muzik die wub.gif

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Shawie ade stat injin trabelshoting guide agak rumit ciket. Bile wa cukup mase nanti buat 1 more proper write up purposely utk Shawie bih baek.
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post May 18 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
Aku pun tak nah nampak. Nak tolong taruk sini aku pun tak reti guna hp ni. Time press pedal tu takde sengguk sengguk ke. Atau ko tekan dia free dan kete terus meluncur gitu je
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ak tekan free je meluncur laju, da slow baru sengguk2..

QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 03:40 AM)
My symptom was speedometer drop. Probably it is related to it too. U can try service the tdc sensor drivenheat. Who knows it might solve the problem?
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TDC sensor pun i dunno which bro..

QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 04:58 AM)
Kalau lap lap si tdc sensor pun tak mau, ko try bukak satu suis ni. Aku tak tau nama dia. Kalau ko diri depan enjin. Belah kanan ko ade kabereter. Ko lirik mata ko ke kiri. Ada mcm suis atau plug. Ko cabut bende tu. Pastu ko tarik bende yg tertinggal kat enjin ke magnifold ke intake ke apa tah nama dia tu dan ko cuci. Connection dedua belah tu pun cuci sekali lah.

Try je. Tak susah mana pun. Tapi buat tdc sensor dulu. Kalau tak bole gak buat bende aku ckp ni. Tapi tu symptom dia kalau time idle timing ko tinggi. Aku cuci bende alah tu lps aku spray kabreter tapi tak jadik apa. Maka aku cabut bende tu. Aku servis. Pasal ada byk sensor kot kat savvy. Ko servis la memana sensor yg ada. Tiga kali aku jumpa problem savvy ni semua pasal sensor. Nasib aku teka betul. Tak pun tunggu otai savvy lain bagi pendapat.
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ok.. ak try godeh2..

QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 18 2014, 05:02 AM)
Aku rasa cara ni pun abe davidke20 ada bgtau dulu. Aku tak ingat version/thread ke berapa. Tapi aku sanjung dia ni pasal dia ni teliti la. Bunyi dan ejaan dia type mmg sama. Buahahaha.. Rasanye ilmu tu aku dpt dr dia kot. Cuma aku alih bahasa kan dia. Maaf sifu. Credit to u..
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 18 2014, 08:28 AM)
Bro, itu meter minyak kat desbod ade main perangai kah? Kejap naik abih, kejap tinggal 1 bar blinking? Klu slalu  camtu, mmg fuel pam dah mau kaput sad.gif

Klu TDC sensor, biasenye cuma takleh stat.

Klu petrol filter sumbat, naj stat balik pon takleh dah.
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yup meter minyak main2.. pastu ade bunyi uuuutttt..

nt da ku gudak ku hantar report ya geng..

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 17 2014, 10:21 PM)
Wow.. Aku pernah tak ble start. Pasal tak tutup lampu. Lepas tolak berpeluh pun tak mau gak. Tarik guna hilux 15 km (plus ronda) sambil masuk gear. Pun tak ble gak. Last last aku cabut bateri. Tunggu 5 minit. Pasang balik. Dia start mcm dia tak pernah ada bagi apa apa masalah kat aku.

Savvy ada guna alternator tak? Aku bab kete ni tak pandai. Aku main agak agak ajer. Mungkin kapasitor atau alternator yg simoan karen tu dah jahanam agaknye. Ble jadik ke sifu davidkee20. Maaf kalau tak membantu.
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Mungkin kelapa bat3 longgar kot? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 09:01 AM)
ak tekan free je meluncur laju, da slow baru sengguk2..
TDC sensor pun i dunno which bro..
ok.. ak try godeh2..
yup meter minyak main2.. pastu ade bunyi uuuutttt..

nt da ku gudak ku hantar report ya geng..
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Ok con9lan7firm fuel pam dah kacau. Itu "uuuttt" hanya ade bila mase fuel pam masih berfungsi agi. Kalau die tak "uuutt" maka mase tu tiade fungsi. Agipun, "uuutttt" je takpe la. Yg teruk mia macam Plotong GaGa, TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET sampei mati injin doh.gif Bile mase beli keta mmg siok dengar munyik tu, macam lah fighter jet ke ape performans mesin yg handal. Skang dah bertahun² dengar munyik tu, mcm lah dudok atas mesin basuh yawn.gif
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post May 18 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 18 2014, 09:32 AM)
Ok con9lan7firm fuel pam dah kacau. Itu "uuuttt" hanya ade bila mase fuel pam masih berfungsi agi. Kalau die tak "uuutt" maka mase tu tiade fungsi. Agipun, "uuutttt" je takpe la. Yg teruk mia macam Plotong GaGa, TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET sampei mati injin doh.gif Bile mase beli keta mmg siok dengar munyik tu, macam lah fighter jet ke ape performans mesin yg handal. Skang dah bertahun² dengar munyik tu, mcm lah dudok atas mesin basuh yawn.gif
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bro itu fuel pump mana duduk la? sakit mata aku cari..
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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 09:47 AM)
bro itu fuel pump mana duduk la? sakit mata aku cari..
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Ini GaGa aku, yg Shawie tiade gambar. Bukak seat belakang, yg tengah itu menda mcam milo tin mia cover, fuel pam kat sana. Nape? Nak DIY ke? Klu saye tak silap, kalu fuel pam mau bukak belakang torsion beam kena mau kuar, pastu fuel tank kena turun baru boleh bikin sad.gif Tanya NOX la. Biasenye hor, nape fuel pam asyik rosak? Sebab slalu tangki tak cukup isi. Itu fuel pam mia motor sedup angin deswai lah overheat laugh.gif Lagi pon, ini cuntry mia minyak berkualiti dah smua export pi negara laen, yg sendiri pakei mia smua minyak cap petai + air sabun yawn.gif Nak keta sihat? Susah ciket la. Nasebaek Shawie nie murah nak belik. Klu dah belik keta mewah, takut pulak nak pakei petol RON95, bayar 2.7/litre petol yg jenis LEBIH SABUN. Mungkin lambat ciket rosak kot whistling.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 18 2014, 10:31 AM)
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Ini GaGa aku, yg Shawie tiade gambar. Bukak seat belakang, yg tengah itu menda mcam milo tin mia cover, fuel pam kat sana. Nape? Nak DIY ke? Klu saye tak silap, kalu fuel pam mau bukak belakang torsion beam kena mau kuar, pastu fuel tank kena turun baru boleh bikin sad.gif Tanya NOX la. Biasenye hor, nape fuel pam asyik rosak? Sebab slalu tangki tak cukup isi. Itu fuel pam mia motor sedup angin deswai lah overheat laugh.gif Lagi pon, ini cuntry mia minyak berkualiti dah smua export pi negara laen, yg sendiri pakei mia smua minyak cap petai + air sabun yawn.gif Nak keta sihat? Susah ciket la. Nasebaek Shawie nie murah nak belik. Klu dah belik keta mewah, takut pulak nak pakei petol RON95, bayar 2.7/litre petol yg jenis LEBIH SABUN. Mungkin lambat ciket rosak kot whistling.gif
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thanks abam david.. bunyik wwuutt apa pasal dengar dari depan? kat dalam tada dengar?
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QUOTE(NOX @ May 18 2014, 07:32 AM)
sejak bila savi pakai kaberator? fuel injector bang.. hahahahaha.. benda yg den highlight merah tu trottlebody kalo tak silap?
kekekekeke.. aku panggil karbereter je semua bende bentuk mc tu.. mcm sama aje.. ekekeke... aku mana tau pasal kete ni.. hentam saja bai..

QUOTE(NOX @ May 18 2014, 07:32 AM)
NEW UPDATE :
user posted image
FC for before repair blehh. i think problem is vacuum hose picah~ at the back there. never usik that one. pomen open intake module only say this picah already la. will update on next tank.

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this is how my internal look after 180,000km. "SOME SAY.." shining like new car leyyy..

special view. no need wait tt.
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walauweh.. dlm pun ade kaler.. aku nye pun ade gak.. kaler tanah merah..

QUOTE(NOX @ May 18 2014, 07:32 AM)
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uiii mmg rabak abis ni...


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post May 18 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 18 2014, 08:57 AM)
Itu saye tulis bagi Plotong GaGa mia, bukan Shawie whistling.gif Shawie single cam, lagi starter single stock solenoid, munyik talak macam GaGa.

GaGa = Wuekekeke vroom (WUEK - solenoid sambung starter gear & pusing stroke1, KEK1 - stroke2, KEK2 - stroke3, KEK3 - stroke4, VROOM - injin idup!)

Shawie = CEK CEK CEK CEK Bem (cek1 - stroke1, cek2 - stroke2, cek3 - stroke3. cek4 - stroke4. Bem - injin idup!)

Nape beza? Sebab relay wiring beza, starter beza.
Starter jenis sama dgn Shawie - Semua Produa Mybi, Ganjil, Kebisa, Plotong GaGa/Ishwaga lama jenis kotak mancis, Datsun 120Y, Toyol ke70 & manyak lagi.

Yang same ngan Plotong GaGa berinjin Kampro, kebanyakan Hongda performans lama, Civig EK, EG, yg berinjin B16, D15, B18, B20. Yang signature representative bagi starter jenis nie, pi carik Hongda Agord SV4, tunggu owner datang stat keta & dengarlah muzik die wub.gif

user posted image

Shawie ade stat injin trabelshoting guide agak rumit ciket. Bile wa cukup mase nanti buat 1 more proper write up purposely utk Shawie bih baek.
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ya meh? bukan thread sebbi ke.. aku dah pening baca mcm mcm.. tapi bunyi mmg sebijik laaa... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ May 18 2014, 10:42 AM)
thanks abam david.. bunyik wwuutt apa pasal dengar dari depan? kat dalam tada dengar?
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Tidak dapat mengerti kamu. Laen kali tolong bikin video, kasi rakam itu munyik bagi aku. Taupon, nanti hang datang TT Jumaat kita sama² trabelshot (malam Sabtu la, I know the day before manyak importen).
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post May 18 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 18 2014, 09:07 AM)
Mungkin kelapa bat3 longgar kot? laugh.gif
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tak.. itu nat kalau aku yg hikat, mmg sendat.. mungkin ada kebocoran arus elektrik yg menyebabkan kapasitor tidak dpt lagi menyimpan karen bilaman lampu tak ditutup selama 3 jam. 15km tarik guna hilux, 15 km masuk gear 3 dan 4 kasik dia caj balik. pun tak mau idup. last last bukak dan pasang bateri dia bole plak. mungkin dia reset balik kot. data karen dah abis ade dlm bateri.. hahahaha.. ape aku merepek.. aku dah ngantuk ni

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