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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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edres
post Dec 25 2015, 01:24 PM

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Hi guys,

Here's my experience with Savvy overheating engine, maybe somebody will be helped with this...

A few days back I noticed that my Savvy AMT 2009's engine was overheating (bar 4) sometimes especially when standing still in traffic. After a few days i found that it only happened in the evenings and that it only happened when the headlights were turned on and was made worse (going to bar 5) by the air-conditioning being turned on also.

I tested it a few times more yesterday evening and it happened every time: turn on the headlights while the car is stationary, and the heat bar in the dashboard would go to level 4. Turn off the headlights and the heat bar would go down back to level 3 within 10 seconds.

I tried looking online and in this forum but found no solution to engine overheating and turning on the headlights / air-conditioning. i had the battery checked and it was all-right. Then I went to the Proton dealer and they followed my instructions to verify what was happening.

First the technician thought it was a problem with the fan attached to the radiator... But the fan was still blowing when it was overheated and it was blowing at the same speed as when the headlights were turned off.

Then he checked some fuses (located to the right of the battery). He took them out and wiggled a bit with them and put them back in again.

Then he opened the dashboard and took out an air-filter from behind it. I didn't even know it was there. But it was totally dusty and dirty. they cleaned the air-filter up just by blowing some pressured air over it and put it back - case solved!

No more overheating, turning on the headlights and airconditioning doesn't affect the engine temperature any more. Very happy.

Merry Christmas!


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post Dec 25 2015, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(edres @ Dec 25 2015, 01:24 PM)
Hi guys,

Here's my experience with Savvy overheating engine, maybe somebody will be helped with this...

A few days back I noticed that my Savvy AMT 2009's engine was overheating (bar 4) sometimes especially when standing still in traffic. After a few days i found that it only happened in the evenings and that it only happened when the headlights were turned on and was made worse (going to bar 5) by the air-conditioning being turned on also.

I tested it a few times more yesterday evening and it happened every time: turn on the headlights while the car is stationary, and the heat bar in the dashboard would go to level 4. Turn off the headlights and the heat bar would go down back to level 3 within 10 seconds.

I tried looking online and in this forum but found no solution to engine overheating and turning on the headlights / air-conditioning. i had the battery checked and it was all-right. Then I went to the Proton dealer and they followed my instructions to verify what was happening.

First the technician thought it was a problem with the fan attached to the radiator... But the fan was still blowing when it was overheated and it was blowing at the same speed as when the headlights were turned off.

Then he checked some fuses (located to the right of the battery). He took them out and wiggled a bit with them and put them back in again.

Then he opened the dashboard and took out an air-filter from behind it. I didn't even know it was there. But it was totally dusty and dirty. they cleaned the air-filter up just by blowing some pressured air over it and put it back - case solved!

No more overheating, turning on the headlights and airconditioning doesn't affect the engine temperature any more. Very happy.

Merry Christmas!
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It's cabin filter, will only affect the air blow out from your aircond, not related to your radiator issue. Belive the fuse thingy he did would change the situation.


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post Dec 25 2015, 04:02 PM

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how to raise 7k rpm limit?
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post Dec 25 2015, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(DSEcomp @ Dec 25 2015, 04:02 PM)
how to raise 7k rpm limit?
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Go kedah find Kirolsan


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post Dec 25 2015, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 25 2015, 07:13 PM)
Go kedah find Kirolsan


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car engine can tahan that extra rev?
how much $$$?
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post Dec 25 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(DSEcomp @ Dec 25 2015, 07:37 PM)
car engine can tahan that extra rev?
how much $$$?
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Each engine has it's limit. F1 engines are built to work at 14,000rpm, do you see it break? Our D4F has the limiter at 6krpm, and that's the result of 20% discount from it's maximum engine balancing. Give and take, the engine should last until 7500rpm. Meaning, good old Renault engineer already budgeted the engine to work with 7500rpm, and detune its redline at 6000 so the engine can last.

I'm not saying by having the extra 1000rpm your engine will still last. The ugly truth is, RPM limit is solely based on engine balancing. Few things concerned below:

1) Fuel injectors - whether can cope up with the extra revs
2) Ignition timing - whether there will be misfire after rev limits
3) Camshaft balancing
4) Crankshaft balancing
5) Valve retainer spring - if not strong enough, when rev exceeded the retracement strength of valve spring, that's when your piston meet your valves
6) Engine management

So, if your workshop able to pinpoint these few things, yes 1 can safely up the rev limit to increase horse powah + torque + top speed. Below is a very good video of how SPOON increased the B16B rev limits to 11,000rpm. Somehow you think the VALUE is very resemblance with 1 of the top hit Japanese cartoon our local kids very fond of? This is exactly where they get the idea from. Take note towards the end of the video, test driver still broke the car due to engine management system mismanaged the extra revs.



I do not know how much does it cost. You'll have to find out from Kirol San by yourself.
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post Dec 28 2015, 06:26 PM

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How to dismantle the Audio System? I have un-screw everything, except not able to remove the cup holder.
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Guys, my savvy manual, got one issue. Whenever I open aircond, when starting the engine, the sound yiiiiiiiiii will come out. But soon later the sound will missing. If I start engine, and drive without air cond, there is no sound. So what's the prob here?

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post Jan 5 2016, 10:23 PM

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Some guide to changing mentol parking light and mentol number plet.

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5W mentol for parking, number plet and side blinkers if iam not mistaken.
RM1 for each at any sparepart shop. buy 10. save on fuel to go to shop again.

For Parking light:

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Remove 4X locking nut from front grill using flat head screwdriver. pry/pull up the nut only. not nut and sleeve. if nut and sleeve pecah but bagfull at sparepart shop.

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Pull front grill forward relative to car and carefull not to break the male (on grill) and female (on bumper) coupling.

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So front of the car bogel already. note someone forgot to secure front bumper to chassis. proton? past mechanik who work on this car?

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Remove 2X screws from the side of light cluster. Why the hell Proton did not include size 4 spanner in the tool kit?

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Remove 1 X screw from the top of light cluster. Why the hell Proton did not include size 4 spanner in the tool kit?

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Pull light cluster forward relative to the car....there is going to be resistance because........................


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post Jan 5 2016, 10:24 PM

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There is a retainer/alignment rod holding the light cluster and chassis. dick shape (right finger) goes into plastic hole/sleeve (left finger). hole/sleeve
kemut on the rod so thats why got resistance. so just pull the light cluster forward like you gonna cum....dont worry..tak sakit and wont get injured one.

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Rotate parking light bulb holder to release it from the light cluster...clock wise..anti clock wise..i forgot just try until tercabut.
Pull the light bulb out and replace with new one. test light to see if ok or not and reverse the above sequence to put all back together again.



For number plet lights:

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2X light above number plate with 2 philips screw on each. remove screw with screwdriver that proton give you. cannot access screw nut? cannnn...angle the screw drive like in the picture...sure can open.

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Remove clear light housing and base..clean it if rajin.

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The mentol base. light cable to short to pull out? can. the cable is covered with corrugated sleeve that get stuck to the car body if you pull the base.
free the cable with fingers gently and pull out cable. pull bulb from base to change.

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Test light to see if ok or not and reverse the above sequence to put all back together again.

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post Jan 7 2016, 01:22 PM

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Anyone changed their antenna before? Mine peeled off until left one metal rod. I unscrewed out the antenna and the radio still works. Not sure whether I should change this, I see at ENEOS the price is RM25-35 for short antenna.
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post Jan 7 2016, 03:48 PM

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no nid change antenna lah.. unless cosmetics is an issue.
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post Jan 7 2016, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jan 7 2016, 01:22 PM)
Anyone changed their antenna before? Mine peeled off until left one metal rod. I unscrewed out the antenna and the radio still works. Not sure whether I should change this, I see at ENEOS the price is RM25-35 for short antenna.
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Bai Perotua BiBa antenna plonk, very hensem like cockroach laugh.gif Got mine for RM14 wub.gif

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post Jan 8 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jan 7 2016, 03:48 PM)
no nid change antenna lah.. unless cosmetics is an issue.
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So meaning the antenna is just for show?

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 7 2016, 07:17 PM)
Bai Perotua BiBa antenna plonk, very hensem like cockroach laugh.gif Got mine for RM14 wub.gif

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Lol I want the short2 wan, but if it serves no point, I think I just leave it be
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post Jan 8 2016, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jan 8 2016, 12:33 AM)
So meaning the antenna is just for show?
Lol I want the short2 wan, but if it serves no point, I think I just leave it be
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Your CD tray I remember got a fork poked there to hold your starfucks drinks whistling.gif Whatever lar yawn.gif

That antenna in KL doesn't help much as we got enough repeater in town. However, you'll notice much difference in terms of sound clarity/frequency capturing ability from your player when you get out from KL. For example, with antenna, when you press search button it will stop right at 94.5FM to get MIX. Without the antenna, your search will go fly kite most of the time unless you're very close to the repeater laugh.gif And, if you have the TA/PTY turned on, supposed your radio will auto search for frequency when you travel from state to state, the function will go haywire without the antenna.

So, yeah. From your house to your workplace I think still within the same repeater coverage area laugh.gif With or without the antenna, you can still watch TV3 inside the car laugh.gif For me, it's a big no no. From my house to Seremban is totally different state different frequency doh.gif
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post Jan 8 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jan 8 2016, 12:33 AM)
So meaning the antenna is just for show?
Lol I want the short2 wan, but if it serves no point, I think I just leave it be
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i mean, mine plastic also crack. but wont fall down. just leave it as it is
new antenna attract thieve! my friends mivi's antenna dunno kena stolen how many times until i ask tell him to use double sided tape to secure it.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2016, 09:43 AM)
Your CD tray I remember got a fork poked there to hold your starfucks drinks whistling.gif Whatever lar yawn.gif

That antenna in KL doesn't help much as we got enough repeater in town. However, you'll notice much difference in terms of sound clarity/frequency capturing ability from your player when you get out from KL. For example, with antenna, when you press search button it will stop right at 94.5FM to get MIX. Without the antenna, your search will go fly kite most of the time unless you're very close to the repeater laugh.gif And, if you have the TA/PTY turned on, supposed your radio will auto search for frequency when you travel from state to state, the function will go haywire without the antenna.

So, yeah. From your house to your workplace I think still within the same repeater coverage area laugh.gif With or without the antenna, you can still watch TV3 inside the car laugh.gif For me, it's a big no no. From my house to Seremban is totally different state different frequency doh.gif
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Thanks man, that thing is actually a mobile phone holder lol

QUOTE(fireballs @ Jan 8 2016, 11:35 AM)
i mean, mine plastic also crack. but wont fall down. just leave it as it is
new antenna attract thieve! my friends mivi's antenna dunno kena stolen how many times until i ask tell him to use double sided tape to secure it.
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Alright then, conclusion is I'll leave it as it is. Thanks.

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post Jan 8 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jan 8 2016, 12:13 PM)
Thanks man, that thing is actually a mobile phone holder lol
Alright then, conclusion is I'll leave it as it is. Thanks.
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Convert to cockroach version! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2016, 01:04 PM)
Convert to cockroach version! laugh.gif

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Honestly that is quite tempting
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2016, 01:04 PM)
Convert to cockroach version! laugh.gif

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Honestly that is quite tempting, especially if it is less than RM20

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