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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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FlamingFox
post May 10 2014, 07:07 PM

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Holy craps! I think my clutch cable just snapped! What should I do? Tomorrow is Sunday, which means Proton isn't open. And I probably have to use a tow truck to move it there. Sigh.

Btw, how much does the original front skirt cost? Mine got cracked quite badly when I hit a curb. Planning to replace that whole thing.
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post May 11 2014, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 10 2014, 11:09 PM)
http://www.savoc.net/v2/viewtopic.php?f=23...0e28da7e558a724

Tomorrow go buy a cable and DIY ma save up a lot lor rolleyes.gif
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Thanks bro. But I'm a person who knows nuts about cars, I can't recognise anything from the pics lol It's ok, I'll probably just pay for towing services, new clutch kit and Proton labour charges. Need to change my front skirt too... This month makan roti edi.
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post May 11 2014, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 11 2014, 02:38 AM)
Where do you stay? I bring kabel datang umah hang bikin whistling.gif Itu towing fee bayar aku. Kabel RM50. Upah RM30. Mau? whistling.gif
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I stay at Taman Tun Dr Ismail. What about you? If you're very sure you can fix it, I actually don't mind but how long would it take?
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post Aug 21 2014, 04:12 PM

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Hi all, when should we replace the timing belt? Proton quoted around RM1.4k when I wanted to do my 60k service. That's really too much IMO.
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post Aug 25 2014, 11:18 AM

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Does anyone have a copy of the service booklet? Just the page where they say what needs to be changed at how kms? Proton lost my service manual!!!
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post Nov 27 2014, 03:33 AM

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OMG! My savvy's clutch got problem again, now it's feeling super duper heavy. Within less than 5 years of ownership, this could be possiby be my 3rd time replacing the clutch. Is my unit a lemon? I don't drive aggressively but always in the city, hence jam. Is that the reason? So sick of this.
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post Nov 27 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 27 2014, 06:11 AM)
Lost your contact since phone dead in July. Pls PM me your number again, I come over check your car in the morning 1 of these days. Almost every morning pass by your house outside that traffic light liao, due to skip LDP jam. Don't worry, diagnostic is free. No part replacement is also free. Even if after diagnose found out klac plobrem, I can't be possibly dismantle your kar at the paking lot rite sleep.gif That day change kabel ady so many aunty kam ask me whether ayam pomen inklud ur dad =_=

Lemon? Seriously, Shawie itself is a lemon in disguised. Just that during purchase whether you picked a less sour 1 sweat.gif
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Whew Proton checked already, it's just the cable got problem. The clutch plate still fine, thank God! Was preparing like RM800 for that lol
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post Dec 2 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 2 2014, 09:22 AM)
Do u know you can sell the:

Headlamps for RM200-300/pair
Tail lamps for 200/pair
Side mirrors 50/each x 2
Engine for 1500
Gebox synchromesh for 500
Seats for 400
Roof carpet 100
Headunit for 50
Steering 50
Steering rack 200
Power steering pump 200
Alternator 100
ECU 400
A/C compressor 400
A/C condensor 100
A/C cooling coil 100
Dashboard 200
Instrument cluster 150
Centre console 50
Each door 200 x 4
Tailgate 250
Front hood 200
Cross member brace 100
Front/rear bumper 100 each x 2
Torsion beam 150
Full set absorber 100
Rear brake hub bundle 100
Front disc brakes bundle 100
Lower arm 50 x 2
Tie rod end 50 x 2
Anti roll bar 50
Brake hoses bundle 50
Shift lever mechanism + cable 50
Coin tray 10
Front power window mechanism 200
Hand brake cable 50
Rear boot body panel cover 100
Manual jack 10
Sparewheel 25
Driveshaft passenger side 300
Driveshaft driver side 200
Speed sensor 30
Catcon 100
Extractor 50
Midbox 50
Muffler 200(if no rust)

After all that, sell the chassis for 500 on the weighing scale whistling.gif Th whole deal could worth up to 8515 in total whistling.gif
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Actually, where can I source for rear seats besides the cannibalised car above? It made squeaky sounds since I purchased it and my stupid warranty claims from Proton never made it through over this 5 year period. Even Tribunal couldn't help.
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post Dec 2 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 2 2014, 02:15 PM)
Ada, I ady dug up Shawies resting grave, found a few donor liao. If interested find 1 day we go Senawang go cabut part and weight see how marj need to pay brows.gif Acterly hor, my kar oso got the squeeking noise from the back seat, on the rear left passenger side to be exact. Believe the noise from the trunk cover board lah, not the chair. There was once I went DAISO bought a door stopper and stuck it on the board then no more squeeking sound anymoar laugh.gif The trouble is, after several times open/shut the tailgate, provided my trunk is like a trash bin full of garbage and spareparts, so the stopper fly off and now continue to hear mouse sound liao laugh.gif
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Wow you found a graveyard for Savvy? Cool. Yeah let's see whether we'll be free or not. I think without you, this thread almost die edi.
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post Apr 14 2015, 12:58 AM

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What's the cheapest way to increase power a bit? The acceleration is very dull but after some speed, feels better already. Plan to hold on to my Savvy for another 5 years max, so don't want to do anything too drastic.
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post Jul 29 2015, 01:49 PM

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What's the best way to improve performance for Savvy with a budget of RM500? Does K&N air filters work?

Also, anything I can do for the superbly unsmooth gear change and heavy clutch?

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post Jul 29 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 29 2015, 02:11 PM)
Solution A: Sellkarbaivios

Solution B: Throwawaydakarbaivios

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No KNN doesn't help much on the performance, but it does give you the sense of lighter gas pedal/response. However, a decent catback exhaust modification would help a little in terms of performance.

Heavy clutch I can help you do greasing. F O C nod.gif
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Nomarnibaivios that's why gotta stick with this Malaysian beetle.

Actually I'm thinking of how to make this car more comfortable, and these are what I find annoying:
1. Jerky at low gears
2. Unsmooth gear change
3. Heavy clutch and I heard like something crack recently when I depress the clutch
4. Very slow response when pressing the gas pedal
5. Some kind of rattling sound at my rear left door

Other than that, the car is perfectly fine. If K&N air filter does give a sense of faster response, I may consider it.

Ok, one day when you free la, I go find u again hehe
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post Jul 30 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(aeppy @ Jul 30 2015, 12:38 PM)
for the jerk & slow response when pressing gas pedal, after the otai osman baba adjust the throttle pedal response all the jerk has gone & pickup has elevate entirely  thumbup.gif oh ya, he did cucuk pdt to my car & clear all those error due to my mistake of not cabut the battery when cleaning tdc & throttle body.
its just a size 10 richet & screwdriver diy on the driver side.
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Wow seriously? Wonder if there's any side effects for doing those.

Anyway, how can I contact him? Sounds good man.

Thanks.
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post Jul 31 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 30 2015, 11:17 PM)
The using PDT(Plotong Diagnostic Tool) procedure is called Throttle Position Sensor re-Alignment. Basically all drive by wire vehicle needs to go through this procedure after throttlebody being serviced, and or the throttle position sensor has been touched/misaligned. Using PDT to reset toto position will do absofuckinlutely no harm other then wallet become thinner. You can send to Renautech ask Alan to help you clean the throttlebody and do the same toto position align procedure. The last I did was RM20 for toto serbis + RM50 toto position align. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this will fix your problem. Because after I did my serbis, it has absofuckinlutely no effect on my car at all laugh.gif But I heard usually it helps to fixed some minor jerking issues during low gear changed. Such as from 2nd gear up shift to 3rd, the very brief moment of releasing clutch pedal and input accelerator the car will jerk for awhile before it goes smooth. This is the particular problem that it should fix.

Pedal position sensor adjustment is the 1 procedure to tune up your gas pedal input signal. Technically, our gas pedal is none other then an electronic potentionmeter. If you remember grandma era that kind of radio got a round knob to turn volume up and down? Our gas pedal is exactly like that. By open up the gas pedal and adjust the volume metric inside will emphasize on the sensitivity or retarding the gas pedal input. I'm not saying no use, but it does not physically improve the vehicle performance AT ALL, other than let you have a lighter gas pedal input volume. Basically, this kind of adjustment will have no harm to the car also, because there's only so much volume the pedal position sensor can do, but severe side effect may occur if you're so happy about the light gas pedal feeling after the adjustment, may lead to excessive petrol being wasted due to right foot too happy laugh.gif

Osmanbaba operate in Klang. Got contact on 1st page. laugh.gif
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Wow bro, salute! Ur definitely the most hardcore member here. Klang is pretty far actually, Renautech does the same kind of service for this? I like the sense of having a more responsive car, that's why I wanted the K&N air filter at first.

One day I find you to test drive my Local Beetle, see whether you feel it is underpower or not lol One mistake is I'm using some slightly wider tyres, so my acceleration and fc is affected.
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post Jul 31 2015, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 31 2015, 01:10 PM)
185/60R14 tayar u use now? If you are, too bad nothing can be done to fix your problem. Technically, there's not much effect on your fuel consumption, simply because the diameter of the wheel has increased, your trip meter become less accurate. For the same amount of distance traveled, your trip meter will show less achievement, but that's about it. However, the heavy feeling is real. As the same engine/transmission you're using now needed extra effort to spin a bigger wheel. On long distance drive, the momentum will actually help you save fuel. The only problem, again will be reflecting lesser mileage on your trip meter and makes you think FC has gone bad.

KNN does not cure the root cause of slack in power. Less restriction would mean slightly more air flow allowed, hence you get slightly better response, but only limited to cooling weather/morning/night time driving. On the contrary, having KNN filter would also render in engine sucking hot air, hence in the afternoon/traffic jam condition, your acceleration will go the other way round, become numb and worst loss of power due to hot air fuel mixture harder to burn.

Same goes to pedal position adjustment, will not physically improve your acceleration. If you know grandma's radio has been tuned previously volume need to turn to level 8, now after adjustment at level 5 you'll be getting same loudness. For the love of God, our body sensor does not adjust like a machine, your brain still telling your body to put the right foot down and press the volume level to level 8 position, but in actual fact the radio loudness has been pushed to level 11. You hear louder sound from the radio on the same level 8 position and think grandma's radio has been upgraded? Its exactly the same like the car you've been driven the past few years now giving you better response with the same amount of gas pedal input. Let's put another example here:

Original volume with the scale of 0 ~ 10.
After adjustment, scale level become 0 ~ 13.
Actual result churn out will be as below:

Volume 0 - Actual 0
Volume 1 - Actual 1.5
Volume 2 - Actual 3
Volume 3 - Actual 4.5
Volume 4 - Actual 6
Volume 5 - Actual 7.5
Volume 6 - Actual 9
Volume 7 - Actual 10(overflow controlled, 10.5 not allowed)
Volume 8 - Actual 10(overflow controlled, 12 not allowed)
Volume 9 - Actual 10(overflow controlled, 13.5 not allowed)
Volume 10 - Actual 10(overflow controlled, 15 not allowed)

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Do you get the idea? With or without the pedal adjustment, your car can only do so much. I'm not saying adjusting it is wrong. but if you ask me, I'd rather retard it to help save petrol laugh.gif Because I know 1 thing for sure, if I need the speed, I'll just go pedal to metal, the same LEVEL 10 VOLUME I'll be getting laugh.gif
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I think I get the concept, there's a limit to it compared to before. Like we depress 80% of the pedal to gain full air intake compared to previously where we depress 100% to gain full intake. But 80% to 100% constantly results in the same amount of air intake. Kinda reminds me of Vios where there's instant acceleration but it's only good up to a certain limit. Hope I'm speaking some sense.

I'm using Michelin 185/55 actually, lesser road noise and more comfort when cruising, just that acceleration has been compromised. Also, it's superbly true that this car is badddddd in traffic jams + hot days. It's like performance become 1.0L and most gear changes feels like a slight earthquake.

Well, since I'm a total noob in cars, can help me clarify the below:

1. How much is a K&N drop-in air filter? Is it easy to install and maintain?
2. Is the TPSR (Throttle Position Sensor Re-Alignment) permanent or it resets after some time? Renautech and Osman Baba does the exact same thing right?
3. Does cleaning the TB reduce the jerkiness or helps in anything?
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post Aug 1 2015, 03:12 AM

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Why got like conflicting answers wan about the throttle adjustment thingy? I might want to try with Osman Baba, but so you have his number or opening hours of the shop?
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post Aug 9 2015, 09:16 PM

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Oh man, my Savvy giving problems again. This time can hear crack sound when pressing the clutch, don't tell me my clutch plate spoil again! I changed the whole clutch kit set like 6 months ago! Now like don't dare bring the car go jalan jalan already far away, very the scared already haih
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QUOTE(hangkebun @ Aug 9 2015, 10:28 PM)
maybe clutch bearing.mine also kena.bearing itself just rm50+-(skf),but labour charge.. doh.gif  doh.gif
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Wah I really hope so, else I have to replace the whole clutch kit which is like RM700+! What were the symptoms of ur clutch bearing spoilt last time?
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post Aug 10 2015, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(hangkebun @ Aug 10 2015, 12:02 AM)
engine bising macam bulldozer n more louder  during cold or morning
but mine when pressing clutch,bearing sound quiet more then release.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2015, 12:23 AM)
rclxms.gif More like bearing. You'll hear rougher sound without pressing the clutch pedal, but much silent when you press the clutch pedal.
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Hmm unfortunately not like that, the clutch pedal feels like got some resistance when I press and also sounds like something is broken inside sad.gif
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post Aug 15 2015, 02:56 AM

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Hmm just sent my car for servicing a few days ago at RT. They changed my spark plugs but now my car feels hard to start. Something to do with TDC sensor?

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