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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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post Aug 26 2014, 08:50 PM

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NOX, ari ini kat nestum, die coba meracuni aku dgn ini barang

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Tapi tengok itu tayar mia speed rating, kompare dgn hang mia ATR whistling.gif Apasal nak bayar sampei 200++ untuk mendapatkan tayar yg low thread wear, speed rating H ? Malah boley dapat tayar yg RM140, thread wear 440, speed rating V(240kph) whistling.gif


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L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
M 81 mph 130 km/h Temporary Spare Tires
N 87 mph 140km/h
P 93 mph 150 km/h
Q 99 mph 160 km/h Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
R 106 mph 170 km/h H.D. Light Truck Tires
S 112 mph 180 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
T 118 mph 190 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
U 124 mph 200 km/h
H 130 mph 210 km/h Sport Sedans & Coupes
V 149 mph 240 km/h Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars
W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars

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post Aug 26 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 26 2014, 08:50 PM)
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oohhh, the 07's.

but hor if you really believe those tire rating, my cc5 is pretty highly rated also whistling.gif
it's on H rating... but i sure as hell don't feel the road anymore past 180kph laugh.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(LBagwell94 @ Aug 26 2014, 07:27 PM)
Why the bunga tayar so different?  Is this performance tyre?  Good for grip?
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Toyo R888 semi slicks.

good luck with them on regular roads especially during down pour
although i've heard MANY enthusiasts claiming it's OK in wet conditions so eh maybe i no skill la
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(h0pefree @ Aug 26 2014, 05:20 PM)
Repair AMT should be cheaper than transplant engine. clutch (RM600++) recon electro pump (RM400++) + actuator repair kit  (RM 600++) + AMT oil + manual gear oil + workmanship

for clutch pump, remember to change the original proton repair kit. Dont just change the oil seal. it wont last for long.

Total damage just about RM2K.. tongue.gif
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The current elctro pump in the car has been recond twice already. the 2nd recon lasted only 5 days. i'm afraid for another recond. and if buy new.. I wonder how long can it will last with the old clutch and leaky pump?

Does the clutch Rm600++ you mentioned include labor cost yet?
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 26 2014, 11:38 PM)
oohhh, the 07's.

but hor if you really believe those tire rating, my cc5 is pretty highly rated also whistling.gif
it's on H rating... but i sure as hell don't feel the road anymore past 180kph laugh.gif
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Dude, u seemed misunderstood the meaning of those speed rating. H for maximum speed of 200kph. Meaning that, under maximum ideal tyre pressure, ideal weight, ideal vehicle power, ideal vehicle balancing, sufficient engine output, well balanced drive train, and a decent experienced driver, that bloody tyre is capable of 200kph at a maximum yet safe level.

On a contrary, my Shawie despite loaded with a type V, doesn't mean I'm capable of 240kph as per spec. Reason being, according to dyno my speedo meter can only clock 170kph where it rev cut me! Worst is, on a power run, the roller told me another story, during my 4th gear red line fuel cut, I only managed to achieved 139kph & 60whp. Seriously WTF to the max. Given the stock suspension in car, and an injured torsion beam(previously rear wheel cabut, the whole driver side of the torsion beam was grinding on the asphalt for several KM without brake). Steering rod that has freeplay up to a thumb size. Front sway bar drop link that is loosen, and hardened sway bar mounting. Not forget before today, the powersteering sensor is still leaking a pint in a week. So, does it mean I HAVE TO get my car to 240kph just to prove that the bloody speed rating are up to spec? I think before 180 my little Shawie ady flipped over/engine blow.

I know u worship YOKO and brand conscious. Your CC5 doesn't feel the road during 180kph is normal geh. I had that when I peed at PEDAS during Melaka TT, and I catch up u guys with that speed FLOATING all the way. Ask yourself, does the tayar explode during your 200kph run? Does your tayar change shape when you pass 200kph? The answer is, NO. The lively prove is, you're still in 1 piece. Want an ultimatum? Get a speed rating Z tyres. It's exactly the same spec as type V, which is 240kph. The only difference is, V rating maximum speed is UP TO 240kph. Whereas Z rating, it can EXCESS 240kph, and there aren't any source to define the maximum speed for such kinda tayar. You can bring out W rating or X rating, which up to 300kph. Still, the type Z says I'm possible to surpass that 300kph and nobody knows whistling.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 26 2014, 08:39 PM)
Today COD with h0pefree, finally got my power steering switch replaced. To those who suffering(or more properly described as slaughtered by Plotong and or any other workshop), you may look for him. Originally he's selling it for RM80(*Which is already 1/2 price of what I can get from sparepart shop, and usually Plotong will ask for 250), was surprised to get another RM10 discount from him. Ended up RM70 to solved my power steering switch leaking issue for 2 years now! Thinking back, don't know how many bottle of ATF fluid I've leaked over the years, should have get the switch from him and changed it very much earlier doh.gif

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Ladies & gentlemen, just incase if you're interested, he also furnish many other Shawie part for AMT and MT, especially those common rosak item, such as:

1) Speed sensor RM90
2) TDC sensor RM90
3) Power steering switch RM80
4) Fuel pump RM200
5) Accumulator for AMT RM450
6) AMT Electric pump RM490
7) Thermostat and housing RM100

Frankly, these are the prices that will make me roll down manly tear.

Those who interested to obtain part from him, may direct deal with him at CELCOM9 - 776391FIVE . No ayam not anyway affiliate with him. Don't expect put up my name can get more discount. How much you can negotiate with him is entirely your effort/ability, I don't earn/lose a single cent from my pocket either you buy/don't buy from him. Just thought of sharing this very honest Shawie part seller to everyone nod.gif
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hey bro,is it a good idea to fix everything at renautech?Do they charge the spare parts reasonably?
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post Aug 27 2014, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 26 2014, 11:38 PM)
oohhh, the 07's.

but hor if you really believe those tire rating, my cc5 is pretty highly rated also whistling.gif
it's on H rating... but i sure as hell don't feel the road anymore past 180kph laugh.gif
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The speed ratings indicate the maximum speed the tire can go under ideal/controlled conditions, without experiencing structural failure due to stress and heat (ie, explode).

It doesn't tell you how fast you can go before you feel like sampan.

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post Aug 27 2014, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 12:56 AM)
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well, the ideal conditions are of anyone's guess. and for the record i did them on straight road/stock car condition with pretty much stock tire pressure.
unless Proton messed up on what's ideal for the tire, then that's another story entirely.
and controlled conditions would refer to what? on a dyno ramp? imho public roads (especially in Malaysia) aren't controlled conditions at all.

Point being, ratings are there as a guideline, not a definitive indication of how the tires can do.
in fact not too long ago i've had a debate on TWI on the tire forums which ended in mostly an agree to disagree fashion (many notable points i must say).

although yes the tires obviously didn't fail/explode and i'm still alive today posting this very post.

davidke20 no you don't have to prove anything; in fact my post was merely to poke fun of how tire ratings can be very misleading (even from Yokohama or any other major brands)
Driving safely is more important after all, right? (yes i know, not convincing coming from me and all)

i mean, 360 TWI is supposed to be damn long lasting right? Well this is my CC5 after 11k km
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granted, many users did report that their cc5 are very capable of 30-50k ++ km's.
in fact i had just met a customer at nestum 's place that replaced his set of cc5 after over 50k-60k km of primarily long distance highway usage.

and while it may seem unconvincing of myself to say that i don't particularly worship Yokohama (or any brand in particular), i happen to get most of my tires being Yokohama considering who i deal with for the most part. I get good pricing and most of the time in comparison of similar models of the tires nestum carries are not as attractive maybe because of pricing difference as he carries Yokohama more and maybe he get better dealer pricing with higher sales volume (the shop sign boards is a give away, no?)

Had i deal with other tire shops, i probably would be using other brands and you'd probably call me out for worshiping other brands and quite honestly i just find that very annoying. (which i get that vibe all the time in a particular thread unfortunately)

hell, i wanted to give a shot to BS RE-11A but to my dismay even Singapore distro do not carry them and the ones floating in SG market are all grey import (yes i've called Singapore Bridgestone directly)

What about Dunlop/BF goodrich? I know Dunlop's being carried by a particular motorsport shop in Sunway (need i say more? lol)
And BF goodrich is kinda non existent here.
(if you guys have lobang though do let me know)

Then there's Hankook RS-3
I've heard GREAT reviews from it and most feedback that it's even gripper on dry than the Yokohama AD08R

however, it's generally more expensive than the AD08R, and it last only half as much mileage/track days in comparison. (technically double the cost if you need 2 sets of tires for the same mileage/amount of track days)
even some of my inspira friends mentioned roughly "Korean tire more expensive than Japanese tire? wan meh?!" (i know, country/branding stereotyping isn't good, but hey it's not like i'm not being given the same treatment as we speak right?)

so where do i turn to in the end by process of elimination? There you have it.

Motorsport in Malaysia is still in a very sad state ever since i've begin to get involved in it, and until today i still don't see the light at the end of the tunnel sad.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 26 2014, 08:39 PM)
Today COD with h0pefree, finally got my power steering switch replaced. To those who suffering(or more properly described as slaughtered by Plotong and or any other workshop), you may look for him. Originally he's selling it for RM80(*Which is already 1/2 price of what I can get from sparepart shop, and usually Plotong will ask for 250), was surprised to get another RM10 discount from him. Ended up RM70 to solved my power steering switch leaking issue for 2 years now! Thinking back, don't know how many bottle of ATF fluid I've leaked over the years, should have get the switch from him and changed it very much earlier doh.gif

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Ladies & gentlemen, just incase if you're interested, he also furnish many other Shawie part for AMT and MT, especially those common rosak item, such as:

1) Speed sensor RM90
2) TDC sensor RM90
3) Power steering switch RM80
4) Fuel pump RM200
5) Accumulator for AMT RM450
6) AMT Electric pump RM490
7) Thermostat and housing RM100

Frankly, these are the prices that will make me roll down manly tear.

Those who interested to obtain part from him, may direct deal with him at CELCOM9 - 776391FIVE . No ayam not anyway affiliate with him. Don't expect put up my name can get more discount. How much you can negotiate with him is entirely your effort/ability, I don't earn/lose a single cent from my pocket either you buy/don't buy from him. Just thought of sharing this very honest Shawie part seller to everyone nod.gif
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great sharing bro.

fuhhhhh.. suda masuk advan. manyak syiok la nanti.
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:57 AM

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ADVAN tarak for 13"? whistling.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:01 AM

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Dude. Its not the fact, it's u. How u put up the statement. How u present it makes people think that u r an attention whore. Sorry to say this, I've got nothing against u personally. Ur above replied, I frankly tell u after spent some 10mins trying to digest it, & my conclusion is: U spent another wall of text to defend AD08R, the reason of why u picked them, whilst trying not to categorize ursef in the "worship" group. Anyway, I have taken the entire karangan in a good way. thumbup.gif

p/s: Motorsport? Malaysia? cool.gif Reminds me there was once after we got out from Dato Sagor, those fuckers set a road block right outside of the exit. Being the lucky one, my then Iswaga was totally stock from the outside, and thankfully have put silencer on the exhaust tip before I left! U call that motorsport in Malaysia? More like Kopi-O fest

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 09:01 AM)
Dude. Its not the fact, it's u. How u put up the statement. How u present it makes people think that u r an attention whore. Sorry to say this, I've got nothing against u personally. Ur above replied, I frankly tell u after spent some 10mins trying to digest it, & my conclusion is: U spent another wall of text to defend AD08R, the reason of why u picked them, whilst trying not to categorize ursef in the "worship" group. Anyway, I have taken the entire karangan in a good way. thumbup.gif

p/s: Motorsport? Malaysia? cool.gif Reminds me there was once after we got out from Dato Sagor, those f***ers set a road block right outside of the exit. Being the lucky one, my then Iswaga was totally stock from the outside, and thankfully have put silencer on the exhaust tip before I left! U call that motorsport in Malaysia? More like Kopi-O fest
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That's why I've given up on trying to "explain facts" (for the most part) since it'll just be viewed the wrong way anyways.
Attention whore perhaps, but when it goes to fanboism/worshiping on a particular brand just because i chosen it then it just get awfully annoying.

In the early days when i was beginning to be interested in cars somewhere back in 2009 i thought this would be a whole lot different than the pc hardware communities (intel vs amd, nvidia vs ati so on so forth)
It didn't took me long to realize that the problem was humans themselves, and when the root cause is the same no matter which community i go, the problem follows.

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damned if i do be damned if i don't

worshiper after i explained, worshiper even if i don't explain. lol

and like i said from this post, humans? who's taking said kopi o? that's why lo lol
and yes happened numerous times at elite too... wasn't hard for my iswara that's pretty much stock with a stock ish s flow muffler to pass lol.
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Aug 27 2014, 12:03 AM)
The current elctro pump in the car has been recond twice already. the 2nd recon lasted only 5 days. i'm afraid for another recond. and if buy new.. I wonder how long can it will last with the old clutch and leaky pump?

Does the clutch Rm600++ you mentioned include labor cost yet?
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Mind to share where u recond your motor pump?

Since recon doesn't work for u, my advise is to get a new motor without pump. It will save u some bullet.. Price for new amt parts will increase soon BTW..

Clutch kit is about 400++. Labour cost 200++.. So roughly about 600++ depends on what clutch kit u get.

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QUOTE(life09 @ Aug 27 2014, 01:43 AM)
hey bro,is it a good idea to fix everything at renautech?Do they charge the spare parts reasonably?
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Usually I sent my savvy back to proton SC at Cheras for replace AMT parts. Reasonable workmanship and skillful foreman. I never experience with other workshop on this. Can't give any comment on the price they charge. However, my experience with 3rd party workshop is part price will be more expensive than spare part shop, some even expensive than. Proton SC.

Just give an example, you try ask savvy engine oil filter price at workshop or spare part shop. Definitely expensive than rm12.75 which is the price selling at proton SC.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 27 2014, 08:57 AM)
ADVAN tarak for 13"?  whistling.gif
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Kalau ada? whistling.gif Hang nak belik? whistling.gif Tawpon saje mengetrollingkan? whistling.gif Anyway fren, I haily rekomen munga Achilles. Unlike Quazacolt, I admit myself fanboi of Achilles whistling.gif I know nestum mia signboard dari YOKO, tapi mati² jugak aku rekomen member pi amik Achilles whistling.gif Aku sendiri tidak pernah pakei Platinum series mia tayar dari Achilles, tapi semalam ada nampak kat kedai nestum. Amat tertarik perhatianku, lembaran fakta seperti berikot:

1) Munga tebal. Jari kelingking boley sumbat separuh masok
2) Corak sukan. Bentuk V di tengah
3) Walaupon hanya 13 inci, tapi mempunyai 4 longkang busaq macam sg klang
4) Kelasakan getah TW420! FUH! Dah maciam Ducaro
5) Tarikan AA, Suhu A, semua ciri² untuk Maleisia mmg same dgn Indo

Nak racun lagi? Sendiri tengok gambor seperty berikot. X tengok xpe, sudah tengok, menyesal sudah amik ATR Economist cry.gif

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Harge, entahlah bape. Baru je tukor ATR Economist, dah malas mau tanya. Mungkin tunggu Pak nestum kasitaw harge yawn.gif

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QUOTE(h0pefree @ Aug 27 2014, 10:35 AM)
Usually I sent my savvy back to proton SC at Cheras for replace AMT parts. Reasonable workmanship and skillful foreman. I never experience with other workshop on this. Can't give any comment on the price they charge. However, my experience with 3rd party workshop is part price will be more expensive than spare part shop, some even expensive than. Proton SC.

Just give an example, you try ask savvy engine oil filter price at workshop or spare part shop. Definitely expensive than rm12.75 which is the price selling at proton SC.
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It is, deswai I kam fain jiu laugh.gif
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u know la 175/70/r13 is not much choice. deswai ask. later after GY duraplus / dunlop sp sport j3 bunga habis then can try lor.

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Achilles ok a, i used the 123 semi slick after all...
too unnerving on wet thus sold it later on laugh.gif
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QUOTE(NOX @ Aug 27 2014, 08:40 AM)
great sharing bro.

fuhhhhh.. suda masuk advan. manyak syiok la nanti.
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Pak nestum ingin meracuni aku, tapi hang taw lah aku Achilles mia fanboi whistling.gif Sudah menulis karangan panjang seperti di atas, baru dapat taw ade lagi tayar Achilles yg hebat tapi tidak diketahui doh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 12:43 PM)
Pak nestum ingin meracuni aku, tapi hang taw lah aku Achilles mia fanboi whistling.gif Sudah menulis karangan panjang seperti di atas, baru dapat taw ade lagi tayar Achilles yg hebat tapi tidak diketahui doh.gif
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U olang bagus la, saya 15inci cannot play yoko or achilles cry.gif

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