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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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TSdavidke20
post Aug 27 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(xzation01z @ Aug 27 2014, 01:48 PM)
U olang bagus la, saya 15inci cannot play yoko or achilles  cry.gif
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YOKO AD08R
YOKO AD07
Achilles ATR K-Sport
ATR K-Economist
ATR Sport
ATR Economist
ATR Platinum

All got 15" saiz. Lu mau mana satu bijik? whistling.gif Jgn carik alasan pls whistling.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(xzation01z @ Aug 27 2014, 01:48 PM)
U olang bagus la, saya 15inci cannot play yoko or achilles  cry.gif
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hankook v12, michelin ps3, nankang ns2r, GT sx2, yoko s drive, bridgestone RE002

TBH, 15" is the best size to play tires
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post Aug 27 2014, 02:53 PM

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but utk savvy 15" is no good bro.. masuk 185/55/15 ada sikit sangkut.. 195/50/15 sure sangkut dpn blakang..

mau carik 195/45/15 manyak susah oo..

15" for neo, persona sinang la carik tayar..
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QUOTE(NOX @ Aug 27 2014, 02:53 PM)
but utk savvy 15" is no good bro.. masuk 185/55/15 ada sikit sangkut.. 195/50/15 sure sangkut dpn blakang..

mau carik 195/45/15 manyak susah oo..

15" for neo, persona sinang la carik tayar..
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go with david's recommendation, lagi best on smaller size thumbup.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 03:33 PM

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lolz.

i'm on 165/55/14 Achilles ATR Economist bro.
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post Aug 27 2014, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 02:59 PM)
go with david's recommendation, lagi best on smaller size  thumbup.gif
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Dun simply say I rekomen small tayar sleep.gif got trade off also geh. 1 must understand, a car that oversteer does not mean it oversteer. It simply means the car used up all the grip to counter lateral force, which known as understeer and break into oversteer. Having a smaller width tyre, 1 get to enjoy the agility, more responsive steering action, better sprint & FC. The down side is, understeer / oversteer limit is low. On a general knowledge, it simply decrease the amount of understeer, decrease the lateral force tolerance, and decrease the camber thrust. Hence 1 FEEL fast, FEEL agile, FEEL like king of the world. The trouble is, when u treat these small tyres like a wider profile tyre, for example taking a same corner at the same speed as using wide tayar with a small tayar, u get super understeer! Upon breaking point, 1 feel the car layang wanted to fly to the moon. So, its a big trade off if 1 doesn't know how to CONTROL. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 03:49 PM)
Dun simply say I rekomen small tayar sleep.gif got trade off also geh. 1 must understand, a car that oversteer does not mean it oversteer. It simply means the car used up all the grip to counter lateral force, which known as understeer and break into oversteer. Having a smaller width tyre, 1 get to enjoy the agility, more responsive steering action, better sprint & FC. The down side is, understeer / oversteer limit is low. On a general knowledge, it simply decrease the amount of understeer, decrease the lateral force tolerance, and decrease the camber thrust. Hence 1 FEEL fast, FEEL agile, FEEL like king of the world. The trouble is, when u treat these small tyres like a wider profile tyre, for example taking a same corner at the same speed as using wide tayar with a small tayar, u get super understeer! Upon breaking point, 1 feel the car layang wanted to fly to the moon. So, its a big trade off if 1 doesn't know how to CONTROL. sleep.gif
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just basing on above post only la:
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YOKO AD08R
YOKO AD07
Achilles ATR K-Sport
ATR K-Economist
ATR Sport
ATR Economist
ATR Platinum


but yea there was a video on some sports car using small temporary tires to drift around a course laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 03:49 PM)
Dun simply say I rekomen small tayar sleep.gif got trade off also geh. 1 must understand, a car that oversteer does not mean it oversteer. It simply means the car used up all the grip to counter lateral force, which known as understeer and break into oversteer. Having a smaller width tyre, 1 get to enjoy the agility, more responsive steering action, better sprint & FC. The down side is, understeer / oversteer limit is low. On a general knowledge, it simply decrease the amount of understeer, decrease the lateral force tolerance, and decrease the camber thrust. Hence 1 FEEL fast, FEEL agile, FEEL like king of the world. The trouble is, when u treat these small tyres like a wider profile tyre, for example taking a same corner at the same speed as using wide tayar with a small tayar, u get super understeer! Upon breaking point, 1 feel the car layang wanted to fly to the moon. So, its a big trade off if 1 doesn't know how to CONTROL. sleep.gif
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well said SIFOO! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

somehow. its me who came up with the question. feel a bit weird when taking high speed corner on those small width rubber. thanks for the explanation and still trying to learn on this advance driving thingy. savvy is a good platform to learn. despite of having small cc and power, handling is better then higher cc and compact form make it easier to learn i think. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 01:56 PM)
YOKO AD08R
YOKO AD07
Achilles ATR K-Sport
ATR K-Economist
ATR Sport
ATR Economist
ATR Platinum

All got 15" saiz. Lu mau mana satu bijik? whistling.gif Jgn carik alasan pls whistling.gif
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ATR Sport flex.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Aug 27 2014, 03:56 PM)
well said SIFOO! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

somehow. its me who came up with the question. feel a bit weird when taking high speed corner on those small width rubber. thanks for the explanation and still trying to learn on this advance driving thingy. savvy is a good platform to learn. despite of having small cc and power, handling is better then higher cc and compact form make it easier to learn i think.  thumbup.gif
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Dey, y no join track day with 175Nm Swift? brows.gif
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QUOTE(h0pefree @ Aug 27 2014, 10:35 AM)
Usually I sent my savvy back to proton SC at Cheras for replace AMT parts. Reasonable workmanship and skillful foreman. I never experience with other workshop on this. Can't give any comment on the price they charge. However, my experience with 3rd party workshop is part price will be more expensive than spare part shop, some even expensive than. Proton SC.

Just give an example, you try ask savvy engine oil filter price at workshop or spare part shop. Definitely expensive than rm12.75 which is the price selling at proton SC.
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But alot ppl say proton SC is terrible as in sometime they repair things that shouldnt be repaired and also spare parts at proton SC is expensive.Probably now the spare part is already cheap since already 7-8 years?

So,its better to get the spare part ourself if we know whats the problem and ask them fix it?Btw,mine is MT.David recommend me to try renautech since they specialist on renault engines.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 27 2014, 04:17 PM)
Dey, y no join track day with 175Nm Swift?  brows.gif
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way more than mine icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 03:52 PM)
just basing on above post only la:
but yea there was a video on some sports car using small temporary tires to drift around a course laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 05:44 PM)
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yes that one! thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 12:40 AM)
Toyo R888 semi slicks.

good luck with them on regular roads especially during down pour
although i've heard MANY enthusiasts claiming it's OK in wet conditions so eh maybe i no skill la
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Aiyo... why so expensive? ohmy.gif rm561 logic or not?
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QUOTE(NOX @ Aug 27 2014, 03:56 PM)
well said SIFOO! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

somehow. its me who came up with the question. feel a bit weird when taking high speed corner on those small width rubber. thanks for the explanation and still trying to learn on this advance driving thingy. savvy is a good platform to learn. despite of having small cc and power, handling is better then higher cc and compact form make it easier to learn i think.  thumbup.gif
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Reason is here:



I'll cover the technical part a little bit more when I have the time. Knowing the car has it's limit on power output, the best way is to make it fun to drive, not BIG. I don't need that much of grip anyways since it's only a 60.8whp machine yawn.gif
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QUOTE(LBagwell94 @ Aug 27 2014, 05:51 PM)
Aiyo... why so expensive? ohmy.gif  rm561 logic or not?
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ask Toyo Malaysia lo...
http://stamfordtyres.com.my/hminfo/index.a...ction=contactus

It's racing semi slick tires for motorsports ma, and anything related to motorsports, goreng sky high lo.

on a side note, R888 is about same price/cheaper than AD08R, and being semi slicks, it has better dry grip.
i'm personally afraid of it's wet grip since it is a semi slick, however many friends/enthusiasts say its NO PROBLEM.
conclusion: R888 for the win thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 27 2014, 04:09 PM)
ATR Sport  flex.gif
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Shawie if use ATR sport might sagat whistling.gif Your kar is Shawie? whistling.gif However, alternatively ayam using ATR K-Sport icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(life09 @ Aug 27 2014, 04:51 PM)
But alot ppl say proton SC is terrible as in sometime they repair things that shouldnt be repaired and also spare parts at proton SC is expensive.Probably now the spare part is already cheap since already 7-8 years?

So,its better to get the spare part ourself if we know whats the problem and ask them fix it?Btw,mine is MT.David recommend me to try renautech since they specialist on renault engines.
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Renautech is my preferred workshop for heavy engine work, hence yes I rekomen. However, price wise, they're not the cheapest. Want a more competitive price, please go for OSMANBABA in Pandamaran nod.gif Also, equally good as Renautech, but need booking kaw kaw since Pak Osmanbaba work got busy schedule sweat.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 27 2014, 05:53 PM)
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OMG THOSE SPARCO GLOVES (215 usd lol)
http://www.sparcousa.com/product/tide-h-9
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 05:59 PM)
OMG THOSE SPARCO GLOVES (215 usd lol)
http://www.sparcousa.com/product/tide-h-9
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Branded stuff must buy from ebay taobao brows.gif
http://s.taobao.com/search?q=%B7%C2sparco%...C%D7&app=detail

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