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 Yamaha LC135 Y15ZR Y16ZR Club - V18, King of kings

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post Feb 22 2015, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Feb 21 2015, 11:22 PM)
Car acc & tinted..
btw.. masih ada TT or tea time at night ka ?
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Oo, nice. Now no TT for me... Maybe you can jio others.
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post Feb 24 2015, 12:31 AM

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10.9 CR does not need RON100. If that were true, then all modern cars would need it.
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post Feb 24 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(babylongreece @ Feb 24 2015, 12:49 AM)
That because car have electronic system to control ignition which can reduce the octane rating  by 5-7 but LC is just a moped and still using carburettor and that doesn't help. At least fuel injection can delay the oil injection till minutes before combustion and can use lower octane fuel.
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Like that ah, how about superbikes running with carburetors? Like the 11.6 on the 250R? Takkan this bike has electronic system to control ignition, right? Btw, controlling the ignition does not reduce the requirement of fuel octane. It happens only after 'knocking' has happened, to prevent it from happening again.

I'm trying to tell you bikes don't need RON 100 fuel and I'm curious who taught you this.

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post Feb 25 2015, 10:00 AM

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Knocking just make your engine go backwards and destroy it slowly. If you use big bore it is actually harder to reach high CR. That's why I urge you if spending so much money, get the specifications right.
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post Feb 25 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(stromae @ Feb 25 2015, 08:35 PM)
guys.. using lc 4 speed 2014 version..

plan to change tyre..what good.. the stock tyre damn licin..

iff front 80/90 and back 90/80 ok or not?

plan to take maxxis diamond..
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Budget?
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post Feb 26 2015, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(stromae @ Feb 25 2015, 10:36 PM)
so which good bro?
below rm300 for both..
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Most non-Malaysian made budget tires are OK. Duro, Swallow, Deli, Corsa, FDR, are some brands I know.
Local brands that I can trust are Dunlop, good year, IRC, FKR.
One branded tire I still don't dare use is Michelin, the pilot sporty model. That was since 2009, not sure howit is now.

I'm using Maxxis Volans MA5D for RM300 80/90 + 90/80 and Duro RS 70/90 + 80/90.
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post Feb 27 2015, 10:56 AM

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demons88welcome to the ownership. remember to use mineral oil until at least until 5000km.
If you get free service, just use the Yamaha oil. Otherwise, look for Castrol. For more, check Page 1.

My personal favorite is getting a 5 liter bottle of Rimula R3x and use until finish, for best economy.
If can find Rimula R4x also ok.

I last had R3x in my RGV gearbox, use for 2000km, then store for one year. When drain, it is still clear and gold color. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sleyer @ Feb 27 2015, 09:48 AM)
my lc 4 gear year 2011   moto sudah semput when gear 4 ... why a?
until now i just change spark plug , engine oil, oil filter..
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Have you been following good service practise?
If not, then you should, before it breaks down on you.

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post Feb 28 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(babylongreece @ Feb 28 2015, 01:14 AM)
Can anyone share a 135lc owner manual in hard copy version or in electronic version. I want to be familiar with the motorcycle maintenance guide first. All I found in first post is service manual only.
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The maintenance schedule is in there. Refer to that.

demons88That's the AX5. It's good for the purpose.
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post Feb 28 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(babylongreece @ Feb 28 2015, 01:05 PM)
That's why i always buy from auhorized dealer for anything i buy if possible especially the expensive stuff.Probably the price is a little higher but it give a peace of mind and i can always complain to the product headquarter.
If i kedekut,i wont' be changing my oil every 1000km and use HI REV 632(Hi Rev the best mineral oil) rolleyes.gif .and plannning to use synthetic oil.

Can't help.If i see a road empty i always want to full throttle else i feel like tortoise.
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Hi-rev 632 is the only one at 10W-30 in that brand.
Even mineral oil doesn't mean it needs to be changed that regularly, 3000km is fine. 5000km if the bike regularly goes long distance and runs hot frequently.

When you get ur bike, try full throttle on highway and let us know how long per tank goes. See if u can beat my RGV, 280km @ 5 liter.
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post Mar 2 2015, 09:06 AM

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deiningwhat did you have to fix?
babylongreece100R service at 1000km? Seriously?

Found a dumb video, someone test top speed of 150R. Reach 180kmh GPS speed with superman.

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post Mar 3 2015, 06:44 PM

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Again, show some proof or reference of CR 10.9 needing RON100 other wise this is not a valid discussion.
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post Mar 4 2015, 04:16 PM

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If follow that table, cars from the 80s will not have suitable petrol to use. That time all carburetor with no management system at CR 9. Lol.

Anyhow, I understand what you have read but I'd say don't worry about it.
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post Mar 5 2015, 01:50 PM

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R95 ignites faster than R97. Engine setting must use same fuel all the time.
Some R97 may have higher energy density but minor difference.
When I use R95 and switch brand also need to change like 1/16 of a turn, since I'm using bigger pilot air jet, more sensitive. I use off throttle response and 1/8 throttle RPM to determine carb setup. After optimum I'll normally lean out another 1/16 of a turn.

At high RPM, usually the fuel map will determine the AFR to command. Stock fuel map will command high AFR to burn rich at high RPM, WOT and high engine load, but once throttle is reduced together with engine load the AFR will go up to stoich. Of course that's over simplified.

An example here:
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post Mar 9 2015, 10:27 PM

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babylongreeceNo, you're not annoying. Just hope after you continue to contribute your time here.
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For your first bike, I personally recommend you to buy a cheaper 2nd hand bike. Save some money, save the headache of breaking in the bike, and use it as a learning process. After you're familiar with bikes, then save up for a new one.

For myself, I know enough about bikes to never buy them new... that's just me.

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post Mar 11 2015, 11:44 AM

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babylongreeceIt's ok, I can understand what you're saying.
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For highway riding, would you consider FZ150i?

I am not stopping you from buying an LC, but hopefully with honest words, will help you to achieve 10 year ownership of any bikes, not just LC.

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post Mar 12 2015, 09:39 AM

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babylongreece 1k to rebuild a bike, vs spending RM6~7k on a new bike... I know what I'll choose.
Any how, good luck with your choice, and all the best.

Belang R does not suit the ergonomics of some people. Make sure to test ride it first.
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QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 12 2015, 11:39 AM)
How much the cost for 1st road tax n insurance renewal for lc135?

Was quoted rm368 by P & O. I feel its too expensive.
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That is the cheapest bike insurance IINM. Try lower the insured amount? Or request quote from others. Your NCD should be still quite low?
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post Mar 12 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(MiztaLegendary @ Mar 12 2015, 11:53 AM)
1st year renewal bro so still 0%.

Can use myeg to renew motorbike insurance?
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Renewal should be 15% already. Walk in to P&O give another 10% discount.
Usually I do walk in, so not sure about myeg, because I do 3~4 vehicles together, can save me a lot of money.

Check your NCD here: ISM portal
Calculate your insurance here: Motorbike insurance calculator

If you read the fine print, it mention something about >125cc need 'all riders' coverage.

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post Mar 12 2015, 09:46 PM

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thianz+1 for you. So high mileage the owner want to abandon the bike.
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post Mar 13 2015, 09:43 AM

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babylongreece Looking at your previous list, I have a few thoughts. biggrin.gif If you're not interested, it's ok.

Test drive must go to shop la, what you expect HLY to do for you? Give you invitation letter is it?
Also, get out there and talk to salesman and shop owners, don't just listen to forum or do your web research.

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SadruOur friend here needs a bike for long distance, hence I suggest FZ bah.

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