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post Jul 26 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 26 2014, 04:40 PM)
so is through bank/post office? how bout online?
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I have asked many banks on this before and replies were the same. Not possible for non bumi units. Possible only for for bumi units via online.

Also stated in their web sites that non bumi units have been all subscribed.

Real pity.

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post Jul 27 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 27 2014, 12:20 PM)
bro, u need to do some reading 1st, not forgetting visiting ASNB website.

Pity to Ancient-XinG- , He gave almost all the basis info needed for those newbie in the 1st & 2nd posting, & yet u still asking here  shakehead.gif

I also years ago didn't know much about these amanah saham thingy, so I did some reading & research (mind u at that time internet is still new & 56kps dail-up connection yo sweat.gif ) so u can imagine how "fast" the website loads  yawn.gif 
& there's no one to help me  cry.gif  unlike now we have LYN to help those newbie notworthy.gif
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Bravo to all the sifus here!

I have learnt a lot since starting my ASX journey in Nov 2013. I think I have taken big steps towards my target.

New ones can also learn BUT please do your own reading/homework first. Don't ask questions here for answers you can find in this thread or ASNB website.

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post Jul 27 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 27 2014, 11:02 PM)
Also stated in their web sites that non bumi units have been all subscribed.

subscribed which mean out of stock already? but sometimes if people sold their unit, we still able to add on / buying their unit through bank / pos office right? but not online anymore?

if really seems so, the only way is everyday go to pos office / bank  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes, all sold out for non bumi portions.

For non bumi, only possible to buy when non bumi sell their units and you are there at the right time to buy.

I have called at least 3 banks on their online thing and was told that non bumi cannot buy ASX units online. Only bumi can buy online. Maybe it is because there are still units available for them.

I assume you are non bumi. Then try your luck by going to the banks, ASNB or PM. Higher chance of getting it just before festive seasons (like my recent big catch at ASNB, my HR gift!).

Which ASX accounts do you have now?

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post Jul 27 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Jul 27 2014, 11:17 PM)
i got an account for ASM, but my previos statement show me that i can make more purchase through online like rhb, cimb maybank etc.

i think this is the more effective way just stay online and can make additional purchase. (without going to bank / pos office) because working hours u know right, only can go out during lunch time.
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That was the impression I got earlier from ASNB & banks' websites. But when I asked them, it was a different story. I guess their written infor is not that clear/correct. But they did put that non bumi portions were all sold out.

Cheerio.

P/S One tip. Instead of doing it during lunch break, you can also do it in the morning at PM as they open at 8 am (banks at 9 am). MB staff advised me to try first thing in the morning at PM before other people grab the units at banks when they open at 9 am. I have tried twice at PM in the morning but result was not like what the MB staff has advised me. Ha. Maybe you will have better luck than me! Ha.

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post Jul 28 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 28 2014, 01:19 AM)
bro, never listen & believe 100% what the banks staff said. u know why they said like that (bcoz they donwan 2 see u again in their branch "trying" & wasting their time rolleyes.gif )
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I took her advice and tried it twice. Thought it was worth the test. If true, then I would know the golden happy hour! Ha.

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QUOTE(csl1987 @ Jul 28 2014, 05:15 PM)
But there is PM staff told me don't come too early also, because there might be lesser people withdrawing their ASX funds too tongue.gif

unless there is left-over from yesterday? biggrin.gif
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Ha ha!

2 sides to every coin. Which is why I decided to try it in the morning at PM. You will not know till you try it. Listen to others and then decide on your action.

Some truth to both stories. And they all depend on one thing ...

. . . . LUCK!

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 28 2014, 06:26 PM)
For me, best time to top up is d day after they paid annual dividend
Having said tat, any day is gud for top up subject to LUCK  icon_idea.gif
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I did not get much in the previous D day. I did not try hard enough thinking it would be over a few days. If I remember correctly, one friend in this forum got > RM90K!

P/S Started reading a book called Luck Factor last night. Interesting book. You may know some people who seem to be luckier than others. Can that be explained? Or is it all by chance? This professor says there are 4 principles behind luck. So, .... rclxms.gif hmm.gif rclxm9.gif

Luck to me is:
* when preparation meets opportunity
* the harder I try, the luckier I get

Sorry, off topic.


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post Jul 29 2014, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 28 2014, 10:32 PM)
u MIA so long, now only u active here..  u quietly accumulating ASM units brows.gif
The Luck Factor  whistling.gif
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You mean luck factor = whistling?

Then I should start picking up this new hobby! Ha.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 28 2014, 12:57 AM)
I made a withdrawal from ASB last week and moved funds into 2 variable UT funds. Kenanga Growth Fund (KGF) and Eastsprings Small Cap fund. I think taking on some risk is alright as long as ure planning for long term holdings.
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I may be 100% wrong with my line of reasoning here.

With the global share markets making all time high in many places, the volatility and uneasy feeling in the markets (China, Germany slowing down, property "bubble", emerging market problems, etc), it may be time for another major correction. Unless the UT can deliver twice the ASNB rate, I prefer to keep my money in more secured places like FD and ASNB (though a global crash will also affect these).

The smart ones can make money in good as well as bad time. But I am not one of them. Thus prefer ASNB for the time being.

My 2 cents. Cheerio.


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post Jul 31 2014, 08:36 AM

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[quote=csl1987,Jul 30 2014, 04:23 PM]
[quote=davinz18,Jul 28 2014, 10:32 PM]
u MIA so long, now only u active here.. u quietly accumulating ASM units brows.gif

Hehe, coz last few weeks not free to top up units...when i am back, no units for me~all grabbed by bro plumberly tongue.gif
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My 888.88 sincere apology for grabbing your units.

Will check for your name/ownership in the future. Will ask the staff to take someone's else units! Ha.

Cheerio.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 30 2014, 05:22 PM)
I too was only focusing on ASNB until i was recently informed about variable unit trusts. Did alot of research past 1 month before i moved about 17% of my funds from ASB.

You should check the returns of funds like Kenanga Growth Fund. Annualised returns for the past 10 years was 17.2%pa. Cumulative returns for the past 10 years was 387%.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYKNGGF
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Good that you have done some homework before jumping in.

I will be asking myself:
* can the UT take a big beating if there is a crash? How did it perform in the last crash?
* can it continue with the good returns? Any change in the management, UT objective, etc?
* etc

All the best with your investment journey!

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 30 2014, 08:13 PM)
Went over to KLCC to look for the book The luck Factor by Richard Wiseman and they had one copy in which they could locate it as t which part of the bookstore it was at. Assumed that a customers would have taken the book and placed it at a different shelve.  doh.gif
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Maybe that was me misplacing the book? Ha.

Still reading the book. Easy to read and with many interesting stories. Can relate to some of them.

Know why some people have good luck in winning competitions? You will be surprised at the answer. And you can also apply their technique!

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 31 2014, 09:01 AM)
Hence the importance of the track record. Thats why its important to invest in funds with at least a 10 yr track record. Plus those who get burnt in variable UT's are those who go in short term thus increasing their risks by a huge margin. If you can maintain your investment for at least 5-10yrs, what have u to worry? Even if you have a couple of years of negative returns, it wont matter cuz the returns will even out over the longer term. Btw, you can only make losses if you sell so if you have the holding power (just like property) why would you worry? Diversification of investments is important.

Plus, its very important to choose funds with good and proven fund managers. Lee Sook Yee is well known in the financial industry. She was formerly Head of Equities at Meridian Asset Management whr she managed >RM 1 billion in assets.

When you choose a unit trust fund, risk is very important concern. That’s why the Sharpe Ratio (SR) comes into play. The SR ratio was developed by Nobel laureate William F. Sharpe to measure risk-adjusted performance for investment funds. All unit trust funds in the world have an assigned Sharpe Ratio. The higher the SR, the higher the risk adjusted returns of the fund meaning if the SR value is higher, then the potential returns of the fund far outweighs the downside risk of the fund. KGF has a SR of 1.57 which is quite high for a moderate risk fund.

There are 612 different approved unit trust investments in Malaysia valued at RM 350 billion currently. So choosing the right fund is important. YOu earn through appreciation of the NAV and also the dividend payout. In 2012, Kenanga declared a 2 for 1 dividend meaning for every unit you owned, you would get 2 units in return. That’s a 200% return based on number of units alone.

In any investment, there are always cycles. If you can weather the storms with a good financial backing, then why worry about future gains?
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Wah, you can write a book on UT!

I was into UT in the 2000's and sold all before the crash. Made some money then. Now I am reluctant to get into UT again. Why? Stupid UT policy where they charge x% regardless of whether the fund they are managing is making money or not.

Good to know that some of the international investment gurus cautioned to steer away from UT. I know there are some very good UTs in the market but the bulk of them are just there to bleed money from the common investors. Even our local investment guru, A Ali, is also "against" UT.

Maybe I will take another look at UT using a different set of eyes. Ha.

Cheerio.

P/S Off topic and so I better pen off here on UT.

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2014, 01:44 PM)
Nah the link that you posted up isn't the full book. The full book is almost about 200 pages.
Thats the part that i wanted to know. How much did you buy the book for ?
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Price in M'sia is RM47.

How come the lucky ones can win so many competitions?

Let me share a story first.

Bill complains to God as he feels he is unlucky, has never won any 6/52 prize. Bill prays and prays. Goes to church every Sunday. He was about to give up when God appear to him one night. Bill says that he has been a good, faithful, honest man and he deserves to get the 6/52 first prize. Sympathizing with Bill, God put his hand on Bill's shoulder and say that everyone in heaven is trying their utmost for Bill but Bill needs to do one very important thing.

GO AND BUY THE 6/52 LOTTERY TICKETS!

Bill has not been buying any tickets and thus he has not won any prize!


Back to winning competitions, secret is participate in as many competitions as one can! If you don't enter, you can't win!

My apology to those reading Luck Factor, for spilling the beans here.

Cheerio.


P/S Yes, off topic. So will stop here on this topic.

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2014, 04:43 PM)
I was expecting to see such a suggestion from reading the book haha.

But yeah, the more competition that you participate in, the higher would be your chances of winning it.

In terns of ASX, the more frequent visits that you make to either Pos, or the participating banks, the higher is your chance of securing some units sweat.gif
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See? Spot on!

Ha.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2014, 05:58 PM)
Talking about competitions, any of you guys here are going to place your deposits with Affin Bank ?

Realised that they are having a competition and the first price is a mercedes benz cla My Webpage
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I did in their previous OMG competition with quite a large sum. Result? Kosong. Did not even get an Ipad or the small gift.

I have put in a small amount this time. Like God say, need to be in it to win it! Ha.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2014, 06:14 PM)
Did you choose to open up their FD or savings account ?
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If intention is for the contest only, then saving account will be better (RM500 = 1 entry for saving, RM2000 = 1 entry for FD).

Used FD in the previous OMG. Wanted to use saving account this time but due to my many debit and credit in saving account, it is hard to keep track of whether I am entitled for the competition (minimum balance till end of the yr). So went for FD.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 31 2014, 07:22 PM)
How large is yo large sum?
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Learnt from my mistake a few months ago in the FD forum. I will not mention the amount.

1,000, 10,000 ....?

Cheerio.


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QUOTE(wan.ridzuan @ Jul 31 2014, 08:28 PM)
my question here probably has been asked by others.

Sorry, it too much for me to got page by page.

I just want to ask whether it is good idea to take personal loan (not asb loan) and put it on ASB account. Monthly payment just use my money.

Anybody have done this? Hope you guys can share with me..
thanks.
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My 2 cents here...

It depends on the personal loan rate.

No point in doing this if the loan rate is only slightly lower than ASB dividend rate. The hassle, fees here and there, your future loan eligibility, etc etc may not be worth it.

If I remember correctly, the ASB dividend rate - ASB loan rate is about 2%. Use this as a guide.

All the best.
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Went to PM to post a registered letter. Tried ASX and got RM 100, 450 & 5000 for AS1M. The staff asked me whether I wanted to try some more and I replied no as I ran out of money! Pity.

This HR has been nice and generous to me. Thanks!

Luck factor? Ha.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 1 2014, 01:54 PM)
Congrats
Dedicated a song for u -> Title : Some Guys Have All The Luck
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rodstewart/...alltheluck.html
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Thanks!

That will be one of my favourite songs now! Ha.

I am sure that there are other people who get the units but they are the silent achievers. To others, I may appear as the "k-ball" type with my many feedback here. I am one of those who like to know what is going on and learn from others.

Cheerio.

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