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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V62!, Haven't die yet!!!

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Quazacolt
post Feb 17 2014, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:03 PM)
Abs asc icon shd not show.. Not very sure thou.. I think u one day already use more then mine almost a year old jo
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8431
post Feb 17 2014, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 05:48 PM)
Expensive Stuff

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how much? can fix?
K3nnYkl82
post Feb 17 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(8431 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:08 PM)
how much? can fix?
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A quick check... 300++ usd.. Lolz
Get third party one la
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:03 PM)
Abs asc icon shd not show.. Not very sure thou.. I think u one day already use more then mine almost a year old jo
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ask him prepare few hundreds for pump replacement laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(8431 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:08 PM)
how much? can fix?
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:12 PM)
A quick check... 300++ usd.. Lolz
Get third party one la
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mostly OEM by gentex, get gentex branded one much cheaper
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post Feb 17 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2014, 08:22 PM)
ask him prepare few hundreds for pump replacement  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 07:44 PM)
air enters MAF sensor -> MAF sensor changes that to a voltage -> ECU reads that and translates that into Load
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Bro, MAF is for air flow la. What has it got to do with engine load? U sure your info correct ah?
K3nnYkl82
post Feb 17 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Freakystein @ Feb 17 2014, 10:12 PM)
Bro, MAF is for air flow la. What has it got to do with engine load? U sure your info correct ah?
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Freakystein @ Feb 17 2014, 10:12 PM)
Bro, MAF is for air flow la. What has it got to do with engine load? U sure your info correct ah?
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nope, not correct. i got it from merlin only. don't know who merlin is? google.
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:37 PM)
nope, not correct. i got it from merlin only. don't know who merlin is? google.
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Jayraptor also got his info from his professional fren only



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post Feb 17 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:41 PM)
Jayraptor also got his info from his professional fren only
Chabutzz
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friend implies a 2 way relationship. idk merlin and he doesnt know me tongue.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:37 PM)
nope, not correct. i got it from merlin only. don't know who merlin is? google.
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:42 PM)
friend implies a 2 way relationship. idk merlin and he doesnt know me tongue.gif
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I dont think his info was wrong. His info is correct but u intepret it wrongly.. His info clearly state how the MAF sensor sense the airflow by heated wire.. The whole sentence says nothing about engine load..
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post Feb 17 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:42 PM)
friend implies a 2 way relationship. idk merlin and he doesnt know me tongue.gif
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 10:52 PM)
I dont think his info was wrong. His info is correct but u intepret it wrongly.. His info clearly state how the MAF sensor sense the airflow by heated wire.. The whole sentence says nothing about engine load..
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Nowhere in the guide it was stated, it just says hotwire type MAF. I didn't wanna plagiarize the entire thing so i jz pasted the most summarized version.

Here's a vid to explain how hotwire MAF works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QuuEPef4k

Or you can get it here, page 34: http://thefrost.net/randomfiles/tuning/mer...0GUIDE_V2-0.pdf
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:08 PM)
Nowhere in the guide it was stated, it just says hotwire type MAF. I didn't wanna plagiarize the entire thing so i jz pasted the most summarized version.

Here's a vid to explain how hotwire MAF works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QuuEPef4k

Or you can get it here, page 34: http://thefrost.net/randomfiles/tuning/mer...0GUIDE_V2-0.pdf
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u still dont get what we mean ... rclxm9.gif

Ppl ask how the load calculated .. u show how MAF works ... then now u blame Merlin for him telling u wrong .. (or u read wrongly) .. if u do not understand what ppl write .. dun put as a statement laa

and if you are not clear what you are reading .. Read more first..
How MAF sensor works

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This is achieved by heating a wire suspended in the engine’s air stream, like a toaster wire, with either a constant voltage over the wire or a constant current through the wire. The wire's electrical resistance increases as the wire’s temperature increases, which varies the electrical current flowing through,


current flow will heat up the wire .. thats why ur house water heater need to have BIGGER wire .. else the wire will melt



By the way .. i scan thru the merlin guide.. HE DIDNT mention how to calculate Engine load wor.. u blame on him now wor .. laugh.gif

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Feb 17 2014, 11:25 PM
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:18 PM)
u still dont get what we mean ...  rclxm9.gif

Ppl ask how the load calculated .. u show how MAF works ... then now u blame Merlin for him telling u wrong .. (or u read wrongly) .. if u do not understand what ppl write .. dun put as a statement laa

and if you are not clear what you are reading .. Read more first..
How MAF sensor works
current flow will heat up the wire .. thats why ur house water heater need to have BIGGER wire .. else the wire will melt
By the way .. i scan thru the merlin guide.. HE DIDNT mention how to calculate Engine load wor.. u blame on him now wor ..  laugh.gif
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load is calculated thru this la: air enters MAF sensor -> MAF sensor changes that to a voltage -> ECU reads that and translates that into Load

I didn't blame merlin for anything. I said no where in the guide did he state that air flow is sensed by heated wire. Now idk who's misquoting who.

Merlin explained clearly how the evo ecu calculates load using the MAF sensor in page 34 in his guide.

This post has been edited by mercury99: Feb 17 2014, 11:44 PM
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:39 PM)
load is calculated thru this la: air enters MAF sensor -> MAF sensor changes that to a voltage -> ECU reads that and translates that into Load

I didn't blame merlin for anything. I said no where in the guide did he state that air flow is sensed by heated wire. Now idk who's misquoting who.

Merlin explained clearly how the evo ecu calculates load using the MAF sensor in page 34 in his guide.
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Well Done ...

I read again .. he also clearly stated MAF --> "The MAF makes a measurement of the mass of air entering the engine"

and he just said "at this point , load is calculated" ...

and to remind you .. Quazacolt's question was .. How to calculate LOAD ... not WHAT is require to calculate load
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:39 PM)
load is calculated thru this la: air enters MAF sensor -> MAF sensor changes that to a voltage -> ECU reads that and translates that into Load

I didn't blame merlin for anything. I said no where in the guide did he state that air flow is sensed by heated wire. Now idk who's misquoting who.

Merlin explained clearly how the evo ecu calculates load using the MAF sensor in page 34 in his guide.
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this are the formula to your answer sifu

Calculate Engine Load

Not MAF sensor . MAF sensor just measure the Mass Air Flow
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post Feb 17 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:46 PM)
Well Done ...

I read again .. he also clearly stated MAF --> "The MAF makes a measurement of the mass of air entering the engine"

and he just said "at this point , load is calculated" ...

and to remind you .. Quazacolt's question was .. How to calculate LOAD ... not WHAT is require to calculate load
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well then you obviously missed the first line in the 2nd paragraph of page 34: The RALLIART’s primary load sensor is the Mass Air Flow Meter (MAF)

you keep misquoting me bro.

quaza's question was: load is determined by how much the transmission is "dragging" the engine?

i replied: load is determined by the MAF sensor reading

his next question: how does the MAF sensor determines engine load?

i replied: HOTWIRE type MAF, which has a varying DC output voltage, proportional to air-flow. The mass of the air is calculated by using the diameter of the intake tube the sensor is mounted on. The MAF makes a measurement of the mass of air entering the engine.

at this point, anyone can deduce how the MAF determines load.

This post has been edited by mercury99: Feb 17 2014, 11:58 PM

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