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SportyHandling
post Sep 26 2014, 07:42 AM

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I noticed that the Mondeo is not being sold in Thailand, which is weird.

Does anybody know what transmission will the new Mondeo be getting? In a review, it was said that the new Mondeo will be getting the "Ford's latest PowerShift automatic gearbox", though I'm not sure if it is the same 6-gear Powershift that is currently in the Mondeo.

Does the current Mondeo exhibit the same jerks and grinding sound as the Ford Focus since it is on the same Powershift gearbox as well?
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post Sep 26 2014, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(klaatu08 @ Sep 26 2014, 07:56 AM)
the new Fusion no longer with PowerShift, the EcoBoost engine pair with 6-Spd Automatic SelectShift with paddle shifters.

Yes, both Focus & Mondeo are on PowerShift, but one is dry another one is wet DCT, hence the heat dissipation is much better, so far overheat issue does not happen even in happy traffic jam, not sure the wet type will help to miminize the jerks & grinding sound, but so far the low speed jerks & grinding sound are very minimum I would say.
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Thanks for the response. Have you driven the current Mondeo before? Good to hear that even though the current Mondeo is in Powershift(wet), there are very minimal jerks and grinding sound when compared to the Focus.

So the new Mondeo will not come with the dual-clutch Powershift but a conventional 6 speed Automatic Selectshift with paddle shifter? Sounds good. Not too sure about the performance of this new gearbox though. If the gear shifting is smooth, quiet and seamless, it should be a winner with the sexy good looks. It is only the price that is the factor now, considering it is about RM25k costlier than most high-spec D-segments from the Japanese equivalents. Though there is no denying the higher levels of technology, quality, class and refinement in the Mondeo when compared to the Accord and Camrys.
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post Sep 26 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(klaatu08 @ Sep 26 2014, 09:31 AM)
Hopefully the paddle shifter won't MIA when it reach our shore  biggrin.gif

I think we better don't hijack this thread too much talking abt Mondeo  smile.gif  since this thread is dedicated for Focus owners.  I follow this thread in LYN becoz too bad that no dedicated Mondeo thread at LYN, due to it is a super cold car, i guess.  The Mondeo owner thread at Autoworld is so damn cold & quiet, end up I am here lor  laugh.gif

and yes I have a Mondeo, the GTDi 240 variant.
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Apologies on hijacking this thread a bit. Didn't know you are a Mondeo owner. Not too sure about the GTDi 240 variant. Is it the current model? Do you find it a quiet car in the suspension noises? Although the Focus is fairly quiet, the sound from the suspension when going over bad surfaced roads is quite loud, all the thuds and knocks. Also, some minor rattling sound from the dashboard when going over bad roads. I hope the Mondeo is quieter than the Focus in all areas with superior NVH.

The Mondeo may be super cold, but I do see some Mondeos around although rare. And yes, Autoworld forum has gone very quiet since few years ago.

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post Sep 29 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(wishndream @ Sep 29 2014, 12:16 PM)
My focus already 17k km. Already update software during 10k service.

1. Jerking coming back around 15k km & getting worse. sometimes causing obvious vibration during upshifting 1-2-3

2. Grinding sound also getting worse

3. Bad smell/odour coming from aircond during start-up
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The exact symptoms I am getting in my Focus too in which the mileage is now 13,000km+. It is useful that you highlighted these issues you are getting in your vehicle. My vehicle is due for the next service next month and I will need to get them to look at all these issues.

The jerks and grinding sound are indeed getting worse. Personally this grinding sound is quite annoying, at least to me. The sound of some metal gears grinding against each other. Previously it happens at low speeds especially uphill. Now the grinding sound can be heard at higher speeds to.

No doubt the handling of the Focus is superb, but due to the jerks and particularly the grinding sound which I do believe are design flaws, I do not think of the Focus as highly as before. But I do hope Ford as a company will come up with a solution soon. The new Focus may not show these issues with the new gearbox, but still I do think Ford needs to address the "problems" in the existing Focus models that are currently on the road now.
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post Sep 29 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ken77 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:48 PM)
Hey wishndream,

To purchase a focus , the griding & jerking is part of the package for this model. I have used to the annoyed sound .

I have changed my clutch during my 20k KM service , the grinding sound and jerking is very minimal . However, when my focus car  mileage  travel  around 40K Km plus, the grinding and jerking come back again especially first to second gear.

Most of my friend ask me about this car performance and I say this car is truly having gear problems,  That's it, buy it or not it's up  to individual!Like my wife who doesn't  care any sound  in the car, she can accept Ford Focus. But it is certainly not for  me to accept the grinding sound and jerking which explained  numerous time by Ford service team.

Second noise is the rattling sound near the driver seat. I have changed the shaft early this year  but the sound still there . The sound reminded me the time when I was diring my Proton Wira 10 years ago. The car came with many funny sound as if some screw going to drop off from the car. Never know after 10 years, the sound haunt me again.
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So after changing the clutch at 20,000km service(mileage at 20,000km I presume), the problem comes back at 40,000km. Doesn't sound good and it looks like the jerking and grinding noise are due to the clutch?

Talking about rattling sound, I now have some minor rattling sound somewhere in the dashboard or the steering wheel. Especially evident when you drive the vehicle over some bad roads. Although interior build quality of the Focus is good (quality of dashboard and trimmings), the QAQC quality of the fittings and NVH lost to my previous Japanese car (Nissan Sylphy) which is still quiet and free from rattling sound even after 4 years.
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post Oct 1 2014, 07:44 AM

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Some Focus Sport units at the customs waiting to be released.

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post Oct 5 2014, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Oct 5 2014, 10:10 PM)
Another update. Mileage is currently at 37,000km+.

The problems I were facing earlier are still present, car still vibrates like an old car with bad mountings at idle. I don't quite care about the transmission jerks and noises as those are the characteristics of the gearbox and dual clutch. Shifts are still as fast as brand new. Another complain however, is the big block of sensor connected to the rear view mirror buzzing and vibrating with music on. As if it was not stuck onto the windscreen properly or it has slowly deteriorated.

I will be giving a long list of things for them to check when my car goes in for the 40k major service.

Recently I have also been pushing my car pretty hard whenever I drive. Especially uphill to Genting Highlands. Pushing it to its limits and keeping revs at around 4k to 7.5k rpm with mostly only 2nd and 3rd gears. I realised that the car does not always allow me to downshift from 3rd to 2nd even though I know the rpm will only go up to about 5.5k rpm from doing so. This is quite annoying, you will just see the gear number blink instead of going down.

Another major major turn off is that when Traction Control comes on, it forces me to HEAVILY understeer and end up going straight unless I apply the brakes. Releasing throttle does not help. This means I turn a hard right (not high speed) and control my throttle, I can literally feel them braking my front left wheel more than my front right wheel, resulting in you not turning at all unless you apply brakes.

While this is happening, I question myself where is the Torque Vectoring which is supposed to do the OPPOSITE? Which is braking the right wheels to increase traction while turning right. There is no Torque Vectoring felt at all, only ESP and Traction Control.

So this has prompted me to finally try turning off my Traction Control. I have yet to try it with hard cornering but there were some immediate changes felt.

Throttle response is definitely increased, low gear changes are slightly harder and not as smooth, sort of gives you a kick. The feeling of delayed throttle response is greatly minimised, especially when you slow down for Smart Tag and accelerate after boom gate opens.

Owners should give it a try.
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37,000km mileage. You have certainly clocked a lot of miles on the car.

I don't experience bad vibrations at idle although there are minor vibrations from the engine at traffic lights. Though the mileage on my vehicle is a low 13,000km+. Perhaps you should really get it checked during the 40,000km service.

As for downshifting the gear manually, you can't do that in Sports mode with the + and - buttons on the gear lever?

You seem to be pushing the car hard. ALthough I occasionally put the car to its paces, the Traction Control didn't come on. If you plan to turn off the Traction Control, the logo of the Traction Control will be lit, yellow in colour. Somehow the lit logo of the Traction Control gives the impression that something is wrong with the feature. Anyway, perhaps you can give it a go. Maybe I should try turning the Traction Control off and see what difference does it make vs. Traction Control on in everyday driving.

Not too sure about the understeer part and the behaviour of the car when the Traction Control comes in. Perhaps the Torque Vectoring is just some term but in real life action it isn't too useful. I've not been able to see the Traction Control or ESP warning light comes on in all my cars so perhaps I'm not driving hard enough(usually it's the tyres that give up first).

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post Oct 6 2014, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Oct 5 2014, 11:16 PM)
Yup, I was changing gears with the + - lever. It does not allow you at times to downshift too hard. Very clear that a conventional push/pull lever to change gears are much more convenient than the stupid lever given in the Ford Focus.

All kinds of lights came on when I drive the car hard! I'm talking sub 60km/h speeds with hard cornering.

Regarding the Traction Control, yes, there will be a Traction Control logo with the word OFF that lights up when you turn it off.
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I tried disabling the Traction Control and took some corners at relatively high speed. I have to say I can feel the difference between Traction Control off and Traction Control on in those driving conditions. Regrettably I do not like the car's behaviour when the Traction Control is turned off. I can feel the car swaying more erratically(and freely) with the Traction Control off, as if the suspension is really free on its own and not electronically controlled. A more unstable ride as the suspension seems to be slightly loose and "free" as it sways more at the corners.

Also, at a sharp 90 degrees corner, with the Traction Control turned off, for the first time I heard a screeching sound although I wasn't really going too fast. As I accelerated out of the corner, the screeching sound is quite loud. I'm not sure if the sound is from the tyres or the suspension, or whether it is due to the Traction Control turned off.

After some short experiment today, I do think I prefer the Traction Control to be turned on for a more stable ride. I appreciate the difference the Traction Control brought to the vehicle especially during high speed cornering. I can really feel the difference. The vehicle is more in control with the Traction Control enabled.

By the way, is this Traction Control something like ESP or something that prevent the vehicle from losing control in emergency situations, or it's just a feature for the tyres to gain traction on wet or muddy roads?

By the way, I just came back from Genting Highlands just an hour ago. Couldn't drive too fast up Genting this time as the other half told me to slow down halfway up the journey(and Myvi and Nissan Almera start to overtake my vehicle).
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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Oct 7 2014, 11:26 AM)
Cool. Thanks for the feedback. I'll give it a try without Traction Control the next time!

The thing about my previous few drives is that, on the tighter corners, I bring the car to its brink of losing grip, which is why all the electronic safety measures kicked in and kind of made the car much less predictable to control.

Granted those are great when driving through puddles of water through highways, you can really feel the car straightening out for you when the lights come on.

All this has also made me think about the Focus ST, knowing that dealers are giving out huge discounts now for it. Hmmm..
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If the Traction Control in the Ford Focus is something like the ESC or ESP (Electronic Stability Control or Electronic Stability Programme), I suspect it automatically senses the car's movement or behaviour during high speed cornering, and if it detects that the car is going slightly fast at the corners it reduces the speed of the car.

I think if you switch off the Traction Control, the car will be going faster at the corners as there will no "brakes" to hold the vehicle when it is on the verge of losing control. That is where the driver will have to manually apply the brakes to prevent the car from going too fast round a corner.

As for the screeching sound I experienced previously when accelerating out from a sharp corner, I suspect the sound is from the tyres. With the Traction Control turned off, I think there are no more "brakes" from the Traction Control that are holding back the vehicle, and as the vehicle accelerated out from the corner at greater speeds, the tyres made that screeching sound.

I have not managed to see any warning lights come on before even when driving through puddles of water, so I guess I might be too cautious with the car. Having said that my impression is I have driven the car quite hard sometimes, perhaps not hard enough.

Focus ST's power and handling are intriguing(quite desirable), but it's in Manual transmission and costs quite a bit more. The interior looks more solid though with higher quality of fit and finish.
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post Oct 7 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 7 2014, 12:29 PM)
If the ESP's light did not come on, then what you felt was probably ESP's more rowdy cousin, Torque Vectoring.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/28/2012-fo...rque-vectoring/

It is designed to maximise grip during hard cornering by using the brakes. It works like ESP, but is designed as part of Focus's handling suite rather than a safety system (unlike ESP, Torque Vectoring does not interfere with the throttle).

What I'm not sure is, when you switch off ESP, does it also switch off Torque Vectoring.
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Okay thanks for the link. Not too sure if Torque Vectoring is ALWAYS enabled, or it is only on when the Traction Control is switched on. If Traction control is switched off, is Torque Vectoring still on?

Any any rate, I do think the Traction Control feature on the Ford Focus is quite useful. Only for the more professional or experienced drivers, they may choose to disable the Traction Control but will need to manually steer the car more effectively.
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QUOTE(samo50sg @ Oct 17 2014, 04:42 PM)
Hi Guys. I had an accident which left my 2013 Ford Focus S+ with a broken lower arm. KL Ford told me it will take minimum 3 moths to bring in the parts....
Is there anywhere else I can order the lower arm.. Thanks...
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No comment on the ordering of lower arm but you can request for courtesy/replacement car. Your case should be given priority since it is a 3 long month of waiting period. Previously I was given a courtesy car even though it was only for one day. THe replacement car is also a Ford Focus. Try talking to the Manager.
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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Oct 19 2014, 05:31 PM)
which showroom u bought the car?
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A showroom in Klang, Bukit Tinggi.
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QUOTE(aneip @ Oct 26 2014, 02:48 PM)
Any idea how much the replacement?

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No idea on the cost of replacement but would you mind me asking how did your windscreen end up to be like that? From the crack pattern, it seems like an impact from a rock may have caused the windscreen to crack in such a manner.

Does Sime Darby have immediate stock for the windscreen replacement? Hope you could get it fixed soon.
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post Oct 31 2014, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(seshatri @ Oct 28 2014, 05:03 PM)
Hello Friends...good day to all. I'm new in the forum. Got my ride FOFO Sedan Titanium+ in August this year and have been enjoying the ride especially the occasional Fast & Furious ride very much....the car feels solid and glued to the tarmac even on fast cornering (Karak - LPT - Karak) and its very comfy.

There are few things I need clarification from the fellow owners.
1. Can we set Autolock such that all doors get autolocked when we first start driving. Right now I have to manually lock using the lock button in dashboard. SA says cannot do this but I see the manual has some entries on this but its not working for me.

2. When driving on uneven road (gravel / dirt) i hear tok tok sound from the abs. Is that normal? How to make it silent?

3. When I stream songs from my IPhone via BT, I don't get the song details in the screen. This problem only started recently and I'm not sure how to rectify it. Also can't use the steering wheel controls to see the playlist. I can only move forward or back to next track. Initially the details were showing in the screen. Anyone of you had this problem? Please share how to solve it.

Have a great week ahead.
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Don't think there is a way to set Autolock but if you manage to do that we would be interested to know.

As on "tok tok" sound when driving over uneven or bad-surfaced roads, I don't think it is from the ABS? Rather, it is from the suspension. Unfortunately the suspension of the Focus is not very quiet. Several(if not all) Focus owners including myself have complained to the service centre on the noisy suspension when going over bad roads. The sound from the suspension when going over uneven road is akin to some loose plastic bottles hitting against each other. It is likely not a defect, in other words, it is normal. Perhaps an oversight or lack of consideration on this area when they design the car. Though, it is not too bad. Slightly noisier than Japanese equivalents but still acceptable.

Can't help you on streaming songs from your iPhone via bluetooth as I usually play the songs from a USB stick.

And yes, the handling of the Focus at the bends is quite splendid as it sticks to the road like a leech. Somehow it seems like the car can sense that the driver is in fast-n-furious mode and automatically adjusts itself to stick to the ground even more. You feel in total control as the car glides through the bends, and body roll is minimal even though you take a bend or corner at relatively high speeds. A fun car to drive especially if you like to drive a bit faster than normal speeds.

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post Oct 31 2014, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(RaptoR @ Oct 31 2014, 12:44 AM)
Hi all!
Anyone has good recommendation on where to get front bumper repair / replacement? Also side skirting needs some touch up work. Would appreciate if you could share details of the workshop with good workmanship. Have to get mine fixed. Thanks in advance.
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I thought the side skirting is a black colour hard plastic? Not too sure if it can be touched up. I had some minor scratches on the front of the skirting and although it was touched up(not sure how they do that), the lines are still visible. THough the scratches are not really obvious.
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QUOTE(karl039 @ Nov 4 2014, 02:45 PM)
Ok so i just had a drive to cameron highlands with my new FOFO ( currently 560km mileage ) last week. As what you expected on the the traffic in cameron on weekends, so im stuck in a heavy traffic while on the way to a strawberry farm ( cant remember the name ). Suddenly while on the hilly road i got the transmission hot signal and asked to press the break. im not sure whether it is possible to press a break for 5-6 mins in a slow moving traffic. surely the car behinds will horn my car like crazy. so i just press my accelerator slowly till i can find a parking at the side. unfortunately my transmisson / gear got stucked and the car suddenly not moving at all. crazy one. its like the gear missed or slipped and the RPM keep on shooting up while the car not moving. when i press the accelerator hard suddenly the gear "kick in" and i manage to move forward till about 10 metres to a parking spot at the side of the road. crazy2. after that it seems normal but since then im overly anxious and over catious with any sounds and tik tok clunking grinding sound that my car made.

went to service center just now. they did a full system checkup and did a test drive and told everything is ok
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Unfortunately, the car's transmission in bad crawling traffic jams is temperamental. Especially when the jam is on a slightly inclined slope and you have to keep pressing the brakes and accelerator as the car inches forward slowly. In these situations, it is easy for the message "Transmission Overheating, Stop Car for 7 Minutes", or something like that, to come up on the display screen. I have had this message come up for 3 to 4 times already.

Hence, as mentioned by Wingp, it is advisable to move the transmission to N whenever possible if you are stuck in bad traffic jams.

Having said that, even though I have got the Transmission Overheating message couple of times, I can still drive the car like normal. Luckily the car didn't automatically shut down by itself, as on one occasion the car was on a single-lane road in Changkat Bukit Bintang when all cars are lined-up in one straight line with many people walking on both sides of the road. If the car's transmission failed and auto shut down at that time, there will be a havoc and lots of honk from behind.
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Yes, the after-sales service of representative of Ford in Malaysia (Sime Darby) is lacking. Not absolutely hopeless but still, not up to the standards of Tan Chong (I owned the Nissan Sylphy before). During my scheduled 20,000km service, it is only after my car was serviced I was informed that the odour filter is out of stock, and I will need to come back for the 2nd time to have the odour filter replaced when they receive the stock. It has been more than 1 week now and I have not received a call from them.

I would think their management is a bit poor in this regard. I would blame the top management in not managing the downline (or system) well enough, though I understand there may be limitations in the control of certain things, especially spare parts which may not be readily available since they may all come from Thailand. Having said that, this is no excuse as customer's service is top priority in securing future sales and/or businesses from existing or potential Ford car owners.

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Good that they are notifying users on the shuddering and jerking of the transmission, giving a heads-up to owners on this "flaw" in the transmission.

Though in most cases, the shuddering and jerking of the transmission are usually not regarded as serious and brushed off as a "characteristic" of the Powershift transmission.
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Just called Sime Darby PJ to lodge a complaint as the guys did not call me since 25th October last month when they didn't have the odour filter at the service centre when I sent in my car for service.

It has been more than 2 weeks and the odour filter in my car has not been replaced yet in accordance to the 20,000km scheduled service due to the unavailability of parts. I cannot understand why there is such mismanagement in this aspect when common parts are not available during service. The thing that frustrates me is the service guys do not have the courtesy to inform the owners during the service that some of the parts are not available. It is only after my car was serviced I was told that the odour filter in my car was not replaced since they do not have the parts in hand.

Rather poor after-sales service.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Nov 27 2014, 12:07 PM)
sent my card in for clutch assembly replacement on tues... hopefully tomorrow she'll be available for me to drive
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May I ask the symptoms that had initiated the clutch assembly replacement on your vehicle? Moderate to severe jerking at low speed acceleration?

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