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post Jan 25 2014, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 21 2014, 12:11 AM)
seriously to be honest if you are to do the same job for rest of your life. u be paid the same amount or lesser even for years to come. basically it comes down to demand and supply. if the company willing to keep u. that's fine, consider yourself lucky. when they opt for automation u are consider redundant and out of the job. basically it comes down to one's own mindset.

when you see yourself doing above more than you are paid, keep learning and improving. the company management does not give a damn about been appreciative to your efford. instead of finding justification to brainwash you into thinking this is what u deserved. henceby taking all your credits to promote themselves. to keep their jobs safe. dumping their workload on you taking things easy themselves. it's your own wisdom and decision either to move out for better prospect. or perhaps stay down being obedient under suppression.
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if someone not being promoted for 3-4 levels up from day 1 he/she joint the company for 10 yrs, then somthing wrong alrdy. Better move out to find greener grass... ideally one shld chg job every 4-5 yrr for career dev.

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post Jan 25 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:40 PM)
the contribution factor are inflation. where goes with our purchasing power? even SG dollar fares better than ringgit. inefficient money management by our govt. always ask parliment supplementary budget and mismanagement. the growing national deficits we lose out paying interest to dev nation like japan for example.

the very high presence of foreigners/illegal aliens in our streets/city/town/factories. they work and take huge amount our monies out back home. so what can you say?
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Absolutely nothing we can do. And we can't do anything on monetary policy too. cry.gif


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post Jan 25 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:47 PM)
if someone not being promoted for 3-4 levels up from day 1 he/she joint the company for 10 yrs, then somthing wrong alrdy. Better move out to find  greener grass... ideally one shld chg job every 4-5 yrr for career dev.
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u need not change job frequently. otherwise u be label as "leaping frog" in the market. if the same company offer you prospect. well make do with it. if other co. is paying fair much better benefit. there is no stopper one opt to move on. the decision always yours.

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post Jan 25 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:48 PM)
Absolutely nothing we can do. And we can't do anything on monetary policy too. cry.gif
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we can do our part as citizen. just hope and pray lor.

unless you are capable to consider migrating out..... brows.gif brows.gif

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post Jan 25 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:55 PM)
u need not change job frequently. otherwise u be label as "leaping frog" in the market. if the same company offer you prospect. well make do with it. if other co. is paying fair much better benefit. there is no stopper one opt to move on. the decision always yours.
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Changing job evry 4-5 yrs once shld not labled as leaping frog la...! I refering to someone joint the company as clerk/executive/engineer.. and 10 yrs later.. still keep the same position or only 1 level up la!

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post Jan 25 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 25 2014, 04:12 PM)
Changing job evry 4-5 yrs once shld not labled as leaping frog la...! I refering to someone joint the company as clerk/executive/engineer.. and 10 yrs later.. still keep the same position or only 1 level up la!
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when you change. u should had next level of experiences add value for new employer. this is on your bargaining portion for better perks.

it depends on individual preferences. some prefer stay the way they are. they work well with employer. the employer let them be. so as long they do their work and deliver.
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post Jan 25 2014, 04:27 PM

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Lets hope this will be another toll hike thing, KIV due to too much noise from public
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post Jan 25 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:55 PM)
u need not change job frequently. otherwise u be label as "leaping frog" in the market. if the same company offer you prospect. well make do with it. if other co. is paying fair much better benefit. there is no stopper one opt to move on. the decision always yours.
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Your opinion and insights does not apply to those working in the oil and gas sector like me. Sorry dude.

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post Jan 25 2014, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(kamilnu @ Jan 25 2014, 05:59 PM)
Your opinion and insights does not apply to those working in the oil and gas sector like me. Sorry dude.
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you have your point here.

are u saying your co.
1. have a very high turnaround of staff?
2. too much excess of politics and discrimination affecting staff moral.
3. major reshuffling to downsize organization structure.
4. closure of business unit/cost center which they see deem not profitable.
5. downsizing in way centralize core operation. where branches had to shutdown.
6. outsourcing.

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post Jan 25 2014, 06:49 PM

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these are indeed risk factor for those in employment. how one can service their home loans in difficult economic times.

scenario:

what if sudden boss comes to you. ok you mr. or mrs. so and so, today is your last day. here is your 1mth - 3mths pay cheque (depending on your termination/resignation terms).

BLR go up monthly payment also up depending on banks. you are in such scenario and suddenly got a bank letter revise a higher mthly payment rate.
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post Jan 25 2014, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 25 2014, 06:47 PM)
you have your point here.

are u saying your co.
1. have a very high turnaround of staff?
2. too much excess of politics and discrimination affecting staff moral.
3. major reshuffling to downsize organization structure.
4. closure of business unit/cost center which they see deem not profitable.
5. downsizing in way centralize core operation. where branches had to shutdown.
6. outsourcing.
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The above points sound more like those manufacturing, finance, construction, banking, hotel, logistics, retail sectors. Again, apart from point no.1, the rest are not applicable.
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BSN just announced it increased its BLR to 6.6%. Why did they do this? There was no change in the OPR by Bank Negara, right? And I thought the current BLR is already at 6.6%?

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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:55 PM)
u need not change job frequently. otherwise u be label as "leaping frog" in the market. if the same company offer you prospect. well make do with it. if other co. is paying fair much better benefit. there is no stopper one opt to move on. the decision always yours.
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if your referring to those who hop every 6 months, then they can be called leaping frog without proper specialization.

every 4-5 years is the ideal case for <40 years old or so. Say your current job grade is lvl5, and you know it takes ~5 years to level up. You can hop to another RELEVANT company to receive that higher job grade + salary markup + new experience. And when time comes, you may opt to hop back to your original company, and the "old" workers will realise how you manage to be in so much higher grade than them in the same time window. Its pretty common, like example my CEO is only 40 years old, numerous experience in all other competitor companies and had experienced in my(his original) company years back. The added value in him is high. Its a huge O&G mnc btw.
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QUOTE(toh2020 @ Jan 16 2014, 11:23 AM)
I heard rumors of BLR is going to increase. Currently the amount is 6.6%. I do rough estimation if there are 1.0% increase. you keep on paying the current rate. your loan tenure will extend to another 2 years.

for example there are a time year back BLR 5.5%. now is 6.6%. what will happen if this keep on increasing. now with rumors of GST going wild. the rapid hike in cost of living. think of it if BLR increase further. what is the implication.
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got such thing as loan tenure increase? rclxub.gif not pay higher installment meh?

it will go up. but if it goes up like 1-2%, many will declare bankrupt
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(lioncarlsberg @ Jan 25 2014, 08:30 PM)
BSN just announced it increased its BLR to 6.6%. Why did they do this? There was no change in the OPR by Bank Negara, right? And I thought the current BLR is already at 6.6%?
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Current BLR is 6.6%. so if BSN anouncing 6.6% consider no change.
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jan 25 2014, 08:47 PM)
if your referring to those who hop every 6 months, then they can be called leaping frog without proper specialization.

every 4-5 years is the ideal case for <40 years old or so. Say your current job grade is lvl5, and you know it takes ~5 years to level up. You can hop to another RELEVANT company to receive that higher job grade + salary markup + new experience. And when time comes, you may opt to hop back to your original company, and the "old" workers will realise how you manage to be in so much higher grade than them in the same time window. Its pretty common, like example my CEO is only 40 years old, numerous experience in all other competitor companies and had experienced in my(his original) company years back. The added value in him is high. Its a huge O&G mnc btw.
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u don't really learn from 6mths.. but at least something within 1 year. those who opt to hop. they usually wait for bonus to be credited to acc. once confirm off goes resignation letter... icon_idea.gif

if 4 - 5 years in big co. doing routine kinda job. u won't go anywhere. when everything you do is defined and process oriented. but u can do more taking own initiative, to prove yourself to your bosses. take every chances to take up higher level of responsibilities. learn from there. that sufficiently help u to move out. when u are back out there. u became your own former senior's boss... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jan 25 2014, 10:00 PM)
got such thing as loan tenure increase? rclxub.gif not pay higher installment meh?

it will go up. but if it goes up like 1-2%, many will declare bankrupt
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when i got my loan BLR was 5.55%. now is 6.6%. i received yearly bank statement that says revision of monthly installment. to date i still pay the same amount in monthly payment. despite the term and condition written at bottom.

this is case to case basis. my bank does not increase mine. but they purposely intended increase for other individual.

for my case their intention is drag the installemt longer make me pay more interest... doh.gif

INTEREST RATE
KINDLY NOTE THAT WE WILL REVISE YOUR MONTHLY INSTALLMENT ACCORDINGLY IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE INTEREST RATE AS A RESULT OF MOVEMENT IN BLR OR INTEREST SPREAD.

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post Jan 26 2014, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:47 PM)
if someone not being promoted for 3-4 levels up from day 1 he/she joint the company for 10 yrs, then somthing wrong alrdy. Better move out to find  greener grass... ideally one shld chg job every 4-5 yrr for career dev.
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10 years same company with no promotion & increment and yet dont jump is possible in 1 logical scenario....when one is the CEO/boss.

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 25 2014, 03:28 PM)
No lah. When FD at 4.xx%, housing loan is BLR - 2.xx%. Credit card loan at 18%pa. Car loan (new car) 2.x%-3.x%

Now FD at 3.xx%, housing loan still same rate. Credit card also same rate. Car loan also same rate. Bank's margin is larger

Now bank's loan affected by rulings. Inflation affect spending. Banks got excess money. BNM has to absorb the excess. That is what the link I provided is saying. So that BNM's OPR is maintained at ~3%. If BNM don't intervene and let market decide the rate, BLR should have come down. Along the way, banks make more money. That is what my friend's quote says.
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post Jan 26 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jan 26 2014, 01:08 AM)
10 years same company with no promotion & increment and yet dont jump is possible in 1 logical scenario....when one is the CEO/boss.
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not the top lvl.. is bottom lvl... still keep the job title with minor yrly increasment ... poor perf and don't want to move... MC n EL evry now and then shakehead.gif

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