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Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 09:39 PM
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The yield is taken from leverage assets. So a 3% yield is quite good and after take into account the capital appreciation, the return will be higher. Of course i am going to try and increase the yield by increasing the rental as well.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 09:50 PM
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Of course i am using 400k as the value of the property instead of 600k. I mean make sure that the rental covers ur installment. So if 600k u should maybe rent at 2.7k and get a yield of 4.5%
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 09:52 PM
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Not 4.5% but 5.4%. Mixed up d digits.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(value_investor @ Feb 3 2014, 09:52 PM) It may not be so bad for you since you bought at RM400k, but those who buy now at RM600k will be having negative cash flow. As financials 101 teaches: leverage + negative cash flow = disaster! I make sure i wont get into dat situation.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 3 2014, 09:55 PM) No, rental yield calculation is not using leverage in the calculation. If you want to use leverage, maybe use COCR which look at cashflow (initial outlay, legal cost, monthly net cashflow after deducting repairs, installment etc), which is different from person to person (ie how many % of loan taken, old house needs more repairs). If you use 90% LTV, most probably you will have negative cashflow Capital appreciation is an unknown. Each person has his own estimation. That is probably why some pay sky high price, while others (like me) don't feel it is worth it with the current environment. I only look at numbers I can grasp. If you factor in some unknown, then it becomes judgemental Undestandable. Thats why i top off my post wit make sure can cover intallment. 18360 a year for 600k asset wont cover installment.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 3 2014, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 3 2014, 11:11 PM) sorry to interupt ah.. not 650k meh.. prop wall all 650 k oh.. drop already ah? I meant u can sell instantly if u offer 600k. Remember 660k was offered for mine. Not kidding about that.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 4 2014, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(value_investor @ Feb 4 2014, 08:20 PM) The difference between USA and malaysia is in the states once foreclose the debtor don't have to pay the underwater loss, they can walk away without further liabilities. In malaysia, debtor have to settle the difference after foreclose, otherwise the bank will sue for bankruptcy! More reason to say that subprime crisin in the US cannot happened in Malaysia. Banks are covered and they vet the loans properly. Only people that can service their loan monthly can get the loan from malaysias banks. As i said before, even if u are bankrupt some banks in the US give out the housing loan to u albeit with higher interest dur to the perceive high risk of the borrowers.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 12:01 AM
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And just to inform that particular Tikaram, malaysia did experience earthquake a few days ago and tv3 buletin utama said new buildings might need to take this into account. Very lucky that the particular thread has been deleted from lowyat or i would shred his argument to pieces. Telling me to learn geography when he really doesnt know what he is talking. Finish me yet?
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 5 2014, 12:19 AM) And dare to troll he do audit before, from the wavelength definately I am sure he got no accounting background but surface knowledge... Cherroy bro already give few good senarios, this is forum we cant get everyone agree on the same thing, but try to learn the right thing  Cherroy is a bro? I always imagine a sis. So i want to get it right, which one is it?
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 5 2014, 06:47 PM) I really dunno.. I so far havent encounter to know that property market is so good and convincing till we need some ppl ( except agent and ppl with vested interest) come here to ADVICE forumers here to BUY so that they wont miss any prop.. Normally if the market is so good most of them will keep it to themselves..amanya maluri is just another fictitious example.. many high rise are with that price tag are the same prob.. I never report "siapa-siapa" in this forum.. u ask d admin.. most of the flippers and agents are chinese.. There the negativity, the pessimist cant accept that u miss d boat. I dont keep it to myself, i promote it to everybody i knew 3 years ago when amaya was initially launched. Some of them just dont listen and keep telling that they made the right decision to make themselves feel better. And some of them now are so jealous cant accept that we made good sense on our risky invesment. Keep talking bad about amaya la bear, really like to see u squirm to make urself feel better. So market so good we should keep it to ourselves, market so bad u need to share wit everybody is it?
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Feb 5 2014, 07:40 PM) 719sf (1+1R,2B) : RM488k – RM600k 920sf (2+1R+2B) : RM600k – RM750k http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...sidence-forsalefor the 920sf, if sell around 600k, i think consider OK... not sure why so many discussion about this property... this posting is very recent...but dunno why the range can be quite big..eg. 719sf can be from 488k to 600k...huh? same psf the price fluctuation so big? Some of them old post. 488k to 600k depends on the view and the floors. There are 19th floors. During launch, each unit will increase around 5k per floor. So a diiffwewnxe of 10 floors is around 50k and the unit wit klcc view is excellent! And sometimes agents put it low to entice people to call them. Anyway the reason discussion on amaya so much is beacuse someone wants to feel better so he say bad stuff about this amaya is not worth the price when it actually is. Coz people are still buying.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 5 2014, 07:55 PM) Who is trying to create a good market feel here same guy 2 different accounts.. dat is prohibited in LYN.. 3 years ago.. now u bought 450 plus only.. now u sellling 650k I believe all adjacent unit is selling.. since you are so confident that it will go to 750k by next year an easy100k profit gross.. u should start buying more amanya units currently all also selling to anticipate the opening of velocity which will furthet shoot to 1 million singaporeans would love it... Shouldn't you? If u want 650k or even 600k.. I can recommand you.. so that you profit an extra 100k easily right according to you (ppl offer 650k you still dunwant to sell) See never understand what i write n post previously, i bought two already and i am going for landed la now. Why must i listen to u what i need to buy? All ur advice sucks.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 5 2014, 07:59 PM) The sad part is klcc view is now totally blocked by velocity when sun velocity finish right? Nope.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 08:20 PM
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And i bought lesss than 400k n not 450k, got early bird 20k discount
This post has been edited by AmayaBumibuyer: Feb 5 2014, 08:22 PM
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 5 2014, 09:33 PM) Just based on.. I m trying to gauge your income.. 2 biji amanya bought at 400 k per unit.. means total 800k minimum... minus 80k deposit... plus legal fees for 2 around 30k.. plus stamp duty.. total 110k.. loan amount 720k.. the best bank take alliance now.. monthly service 3.5k for 35 years... salary for approval 70 percent means 2/3 of salary (maximum)... 3.5k X 3= 10.5 k nett... gross around 12k... wow I respect you... u really deserve to buy even without bumi discount.. or even early bird.. and with 110k cash... havent add car and expenses.. No personal attack ok.. Dont assume too much la like i said. Ask some of ur DDD frens that jealous of me long time ago. I admit i dont hav a car n dont intend to buy one....yet. Part of my strategy.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 09:41 PM
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And stamp duty and legal fees all borne by d developer la. Part of d sales package.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Feb 5 2014, 09:38 PM) U tot all ppl pay loan like ur calculation. He can not tk flexi loan and put 720k in current a/c ?. Apalah Lu?... Thats why be smart and find a strategy to get what you want. Always think the hard way, then forever la cannot buy. Not to mention think of all the doomsday prediction coming to make urself feel better not to buy anything.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(frederic9 @ Feb 5 2014, 09:46 PM) wow, naive, nothing is borne by developer (unless is your father, mother whoever relative/best buddy you close with). borne by developer = borne by the loan from the bank = borne by YOU anyway. P.S. I've gone through so many SPA.  Cheers. Of course laaa everybody knows...even DIBS borne by me...i didnt miss that one out. Tell me what is the definition of DIBS if i am so naive? Not borne by developer? U think i dont know that the DIBS were in d loan too?
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 5 2014, 09:58 PM) Amboi teringat pula Hj Bakhil lakonan Alayaham Udo Omar dalam Filem Labu Labi .. ish 2, jangan marah..lol Tak marah..if u want to spell Allahyarham spell it properly, and looking at dat, the muslims know u r neither muslim nor malay.
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SUSAmayaBumibuyer
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Feb 5 2014, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Feb 5 2014, 09:58 PM) Amboi teringat pula Hj Bakhil lakonan Alayaham Udo Omar dalam Filem Labu Labi .. ish 2, jangan marah..lol And HJ Bakhil has a car. Tak same langsung. No comparison at all.
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