Darn birt lobbying so hard
Air Chief Marshal Sir Andrew Pulford RAF, Chief of the Air Staff Royal Air Force made his visit to Butterworth AFB on February 14.
look like they want to lease ef2000 t1.
They will be submitting the proposal next months.

I hope oz give us free hornet instead.

Damn, Say no to typhoon!

When Typhoon Came Marching Down The Hill..

Posted on February 21, 2014 by hafizuddinsulaiman

Alas, it has been confirmed that BAe Systems which is currently lobbying its Eurofighter Typhoon MRCA to fill in the RMAF requirement for a second MRCA platform which will eventually replace its Mig-29N/NUB Fulcrum, has proposed similar approach to those offered by one of its rivals, the Swedish SAAB, which on the other hand offered the JAS-39 Gripen to the RMAF. (here)

According to latest report, BAE Systems expects to submit a leasing proposal for the Eurofighter Typhoon jet to Malaysia on March, as the Government is mulling over leasing, rather than buying fighter aircraft.

“The Malaysian government is openly saying they have some issues on finance, and while they’re ending subsidies and bringing in new value added tax, it’s unlikely there’s an appetite to buy Typhoon at this point,” BAE’s Group Business Development Director Alan Garwood told.

“What they have done is solicit leasing proposals from every major aerospace company. We will be submitting a leasing proposal next month for Typhoon together with a purchase option and expect to have further discussions later in the year or maybe even early next year around that,” he said.

The leasing consideration has been mooted during a press conference by the RMAF Chief of Staff on June 2013. (here) Similar report has been made earlier in September 2012 on leasing option. (here) Initially, when the revelation was made, it is thought that the SAAB would have the upperhand since, at that time, it was the only company which offered leasing option to the RMAF, something which the company has successfully conducted in Hungary and the Czech Republic. (here)

Nevertheless, compared to other candidates vying for the contract, in terms of capabilities as well as other factors, the SAAB Gripen is seemingly lagging behind. What it holds is the cost advantages and of course, the tempting leasing offer.

Subsequently, the announcement made by BAe System, once a strategic partner of SAAB which jointly promotes the aircraft in global market, has effectively quash the Swedish advantage making the competition a level turf again for other competitors including the Russian Sukhois, US-made Super Hornet as well as the French Dassault Rafale.

With much of the so-called Eurfighter Typhoon partner now transitioning to the much modern Tranche 3 Typhoons, more and more Tranche 1 Typhoons, which are of early variant, becomes available for global market either for leasing or as second hand procurement.

Unfortunately though, due to heavy operational needs by their respective operators, no surplus Super Hornets or Rafales are thought to be available for either “the lease then purchase” or second hand market. The same goes to the Russians which are just currently in the midst of accepting batches of Su-30SM and Su-35, years later after its export operators namely China, Algeria, Venezuela, Uganda, Indonesia, India, Vietnam and Malaysia.

Nevertheless, the RMAF requires up to 18 MRCAs to replace the Mig-29N/NUB which it procured in 1993. It is not known however whether the quantities required could be satisfied. Hence, whichever types being procured, it comes back to whether they could be made available based on the one-on-one replacement need.

Nanti russia offer pakfa prototype lease deals.

i would not mind that.. 

at least we have stealth compared to others

i would not mind that.. 

at least we have stealth compared to others

I think our neighbours mind that.
I bet even USAF begging for training with us. .

yup, for sure they will pecah piggy bank to get F35..

offer from BAe is quite interesting. However, lease option is beneficial only if we going to get the same fighter. Eg, if we leased Gripens, then in near future, we going to get Gripen NG..or Typhoon Tranche 1, near future will get Typhoon Tranche 3..

lease Typhoon plz. ask them to upgrade to T3 first!

Nah, mayb only.
but if the fighter giving lot problem so goodbye.
I'm more interested on australia hornet instead kalau dapat free from them kan bagus.

Aussie can give us free hornet?

I think our neighbours mind that.
I bet even USAF begging for training with us. .

Dunno but try ask first.
they still have lots of f18 operating.
perhaps still depend on the f35.

Dunno but try ask first.
they still have lots of f18 operating.
perhaps still depend on the f35.

they have F35, we got pak fa 

Ya, they surely would like to test against their own f35 or f22   If we have lah. But Pak Fa ada offer to us or not?

If get must force those russiks to open maintenace center in malaysia to avoid problems
so kind ?

They do have lots of old F-18A/B though

kasi cukup our F/A-18 until full squadron

which means another 10.

pakistan just bought 3rd hand F-16s from jordan on the cheap.MLU variant summore(while jordan is going to get 2nd hand F-16s from Netherlands. where's is the logic i dun even know)

so if ask austria to sell their F/A-18s for 10 mil/piece sounds good enough. send them to US for upgrade bcos TAI (turk aeronotic industry) dun do F/A-18...

Air Force backs twin-engine design for indigenous fighter

2014/02/21 11:51

By Kim Eun-jung

SEOUL, Feb. 21 (Yonhap) -- The Air Force has officially expressed its support for a twin-engine concept for the country's indigenous fighter jet development program, saying the design would allow for improved combat capabilities and long-term economic feasibility, officials said Friday.

The move comes amid disagreement over the engine choice for the long-delayed 20 trillion won (US$18.6 billion) project to develop and build some 120 units of F-16 class aircraft to replace the aging fleet of F-4s and F-5s.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration is set to open the bidding process for the fighter project so-called KFX in April, with the goal of reaching an agreement with the preferred bidder by November.

While the specific concept and design have not been confirmed yet, pilots and the potential developer have revealed disagreements over the engine.

During the first meeting of the task force on Tuesday, the Air Force officials delivered an official position in support of a two-engine C-103 concept to improve the aircraft's combat capabilities and long-term economic feasibility, according to a senior Air Force official.

The Korea Aerospace Industries, South Korea's sole aircraft maker and a potential bidder in KFX, has been pushing for the C-501 design, borrowed from T-50 trainer jet that was jointly developed by U.S. aerospace giant Lockheed Martin.

The defense ministry and procurement agency have also shown interest in the single-engine C-510 type to reduce risk of developing a clean sheet design and improve marketability overseas.

These new jets will have a similar level of maneuverability to the current fleet of planes but will be equipped with more advanced radars and other devices.

Based on the progress in aerospace, ground and naval equipment in the last decade, Seoul has sought to design its own fighter jets to help advance its aerospace industry and add indigenous weapons to Korean-designed aircraft.

However, some industry experts and economists questioned the feasibility of the massive project and potential for the future market for the fourth-generation fighters.

Darn birt lobbying so hard
Air Chief Marshal Sir Andrew Pulford RAF, Chief of the Air Staff Royal Air Force made his visit to Butterworth AFB on February 14.
look like they want to lease ef2000 t1.
They will be submitting the proposal next months.

I hope oz give us free hornet instead.

“Tensions in the South and East China Seas have deteriorated with the Chinese Coast Guard playing the role of antagonist, harassing China’s neighbors while PLA Navy ships, their protectors, (make) port calls throughout the region promising friendship and cooperation.”