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Cash-Strapped Malaysia Looks To Lease Fighters

Feb. 15, 2014 - 03:34PM  | 
By ANDREW CHUTER  |  Comments

SINGAPORE — Malaysia’s proposed purchase of fighter jets has switched from a procurement competition to a leasing competition due to affordability issues, according to industry executives.

The Malaysian government put its multirole combat aircraft program in the freezer last year for fiscal and political reasons. Now Boeing, BAE Systems and Saab have, or are about to, submit leasing proposals in the hope of making a deal palatable.

It’s possible Dassault Aviation and Sukhoi, which were also on the original procurement shortlist, are in a similar position, according to executives on the sidelines of the Singapore Airshow last week.

“The Malaysian government are mindful of the need for an affordable solution, so we understand that all the competitors are putting offers on the table for leasing. The program has become very much about affordability,” said Alan Garwood, BAE’s group business development director.

Until recently, the Royal Malaysian Air Force had been looking for a straight purchase of a new jet to replace 18 aging MiG-29 fighters, due to leave service next year.

But Malaysian budgets are under pressure to be cut, making it politically difficult to approve a multibillion-dollar deal for a fighter while the administration is cutting subsidies on items such as food and fuel while hiking taxes.

An industry executive asked whether Malaysia has the political will to make any kind of selection at this time, leasing or otherwise.

“The political debate is more about the cost of living, so you wonder whether it is the best time to be looking for investment in defense equipment. So timing is very difficult,” he said. “Higher up in government, do they care about the problem? The MiG-29s are due to go out of service, but they could hang on for a couple more years. That’s an Air Force problem, but they won’t be driving the replacement timelines on this.”

The new jets, if they arrive, will complement the Boeing F/A-18D and Sukhoi Su-30 fleets in service with the Royal Malaysian Air Force.

“Saab has put an offer on the table for the Gripen. Boeing is about to with the F/A-18 and BAE with the [Eurofighter] Typhoon won’t be far behind. I imagine the French and probably the Russians are doing the same. We hope it’s about leasing and a purchase later on,” an executive said.

“Everybody thinks that whatever Malaysia leases will eventually become the long-term solution because the Air Force will have already invested in infrastructure items like bases, spares and training,” Garwood said.

Leasing civil airliners like the Boeing 737 is big business, but in the fighter world, it’s a rare event. Sweden’s Saab is the only top-line combat jet supplier involved in leasing, with existing deals with the Czech Republic and Hungary for the Gripen for several years.

Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia reckons that Saab’s experience in fighter leasing could give it the edge in Malaysia.

“They have planes to spare, they know how to structure this kind of deal and have a good presence in the region,” he said.

Neighboring Thailand is operating the Gripen, having purchased 12 of the single-engine combat jets.

The current leasing arrangements involve Saab upgrading spare Swedish Air Force Gripen C and D models. It’s likely that a similar formula is being offered to Malaysia.

The Swedish company submitted its leasing option as long ago as 2012. Rival bidders were dismissive of the move at the time, but now, everybody is following Saab’s initiative.

Even Garwood admits to being surprised at the turn of events.

“I wouldn’t have thought we would be talking leasing, but it’s changed over the last year,” he said at the air show on Feb. 11.

Garwood’s not saying what the British offering will be, but analysts say it will most likely involve secondhand Royal Air Force Tranche 1 aircraft.

The BAE executive said that whatever Typhoon model is offered, it will be equipped with a new anti-ship capability — a key Malaysian requirement.

The UK’s diplomatic relations with Malaysia have improved since the Conservative-led coalition government of Prime Minster David Cameron came to power in 2010.

BAE opened a cyber center in Malaysia recently in a move that buoyed the relationship.

Boeing’s product offering isn’t clear. It has a choice of spare F/A-18D Hornets or, more likely, new Super Hornets similar to the aircraft operated by the US Navy.

Jim Armington, Boeing’s vice president for business development in the region, wouldn’t discuss the product strategy when asked the question at the show.

He did say, though, that Boeing prefers a straight purchase arrangement, but would respond to what the customer needs and can afford.

Not everybody agrees with Aboulafia over who has the edge in the competition. Some believe it is Boeing.

“I assume Boeing has an advantage from being in country already. They have a maintenance operation, a local partner and the Air Force is familiar with the F/A-18,” a second executive said.

“There is, though, the political dimension,” the second executive said. “Will the US be the right choice politically? President Obama is going to Malaysia next month. That could be a turning point in either direction.”

Speaking to reporters at the show, Boeing’s Armington declined to voice an opinion on the timing of a possible deal, beyond saying, “Hopefully within the course of the year, we will see some decision.”

Like other executives here, Armington concedes that the timing of any decision will likely not be paced by Royal Malaysian Air Force requirements.

“The fighters do need to be replaced from the point of view of the Air Force,” he said. “But it’s a national decision. It’s domestic politics and economics. Despite the concerns and urgency from the Air Force, there are other factors at play.”

Whoever comes out on top, Aboulafia says he believes that for some fighter markets with “pressing recapitalization needs and limited financial resources, leasing might catch on.”

Financial tightening in the region is causing some people to wonder whether other programs will feel the pinch in a similar fashion to the Malaysian fighter.

Garwood said the squeeze on financial resources in Southeast Asia means “growth is not at the levels people have been predicting. ... there is, though, a massive amount going on in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.”

Dan Darling, the Asian and Pacific Rim market analyst at Forecast International, a US consulting firm, said that with the exception of Indonesia and Singapore, defense spending in Southeast Asia “remains largely restrained.

“Because of the conflux of geopolitical pressures bearing down on the region, any slowdown in the local, regional or global economy is unlikely to result in an abrupt downturn in defense investment,” the analyst said.

Darling said, though, that spending is already slowing.

“According to our estimates from 2010 to 2011, defense spending in the Asia-Pacific region grew by $31 billion, [a] 16 percent year-on-year increase, while from 2012 to 2013, the level of growth totaled $14.4 billion,” or 6.2 percent, he said.

“Our tentative estimates for regional defense spending from 2013 into 2014 reflect another slower rise in overall growth, with military investment increasing by $16 billion overall, with a little over half of that attributable to China, or 6.5 percent,” Darling said.

The analyst said he anticipates relatively consistent — but steadily upward — year-on-year defense spending for the region, largely driven by China, but to a lesser extent also by Indonesia.

“As China increases its military might and reach, neighbors as diverse as Japan, India, the Philippines and Vietnam are mapping out fresh modernization plans to achieve satisfactory levels of deterrence,” he said. “Even countries such as Malaysia, which maintains healthy relations with Beijing, have recognized the need to upgrade their hardware in light of China’s growing strength and increasingly assertive territorial claims in the East and South China seas.”

The Forecast International figures do not include Australia, New Zealand or India.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 16 2014, 11:29 AM)
British Royal Airforce dah lama sewakan pesawat pejuang Eurofighter dia kepada Malaysia whistling.gif
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GDLS Canada to Deliver Armored Vehicles Worth $10 Billion To Saudi-Arabia



General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) Canada has won a major arms procurement contract from Saudi Arabia, for the procurement of armored vehicles worth over $10 billion. The vehicles will follow a new design to be built at GDLS Canada plant at London, Ontario.

Two vehicle families are currently built at the plant – the Piranha based Light Armored Vehicle (LAV) and Ocelot originally designed by Force Protection Inc. The first vehicles will roll off the production line in 2016. The number of vehicles included in the deal has not been disclosed. The package includes training in Canada and Saudi Arabia, as well as logistical support.

The Saudi government has been shopping for light, fast and off-road maneuverable armored vehicles from different manufacturers since 2009.

Responding to criticism about selling arms to a country that have systematically violated human rights, the Canadian Government defended the deal saying that the Saudi deal will create and sustain more than 3,000 jobs a year for 14 years and will benefit 500 Canadian companies. “Canada won these jobs over rival bids from our western allies Germany and France. We supported this agreement to bring these jobs to Canada.” Trade Minister Ed Fast said, adding that the value of the deal could climb to nearly $14 billion if all options are exercised.

The contract with the Saudis follows an agreement last year that saw General Dynamics win a $65.3-million US contract with the Colombian government for the acquisition of 24 light armored vehicles. General Dynamics continues to bid for other international orders, including one from Morocco.

In contrast, last December the Canadian Ministry of Defense cancelled the procurement of 108 ‘Close Combat Vehicles’ (CCV) in a deal that would have worth $2 billions. GDLS Canada, the French Nexter and KMW of Germany were all competing for this program.


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SGA14: Industry preps for Malaysian attack helo requirement
 by Beth Stevenson & Joyce de Thouars | 16 February 2014 Sunday |10:53

The rise in insurgent activity in Malaysia has highlighted the country's lack of helicopter offensive capabilities, to which Western industry is ready to respond to should an RfP be released.

Malaysian forces have no attack helicopter in their inventories, relying instead on fast-moving fighter jets. In light of terrorist attacks taking place all over the country which are not attributed to any particular environment, the government is understood to have revealed its wish to acquire such a platform. 

During the Singapore Airshow, Airbus Helicopters, Bell Helicopter and Boeing all expressed interest in the expected tender and continue to watch closely for an RfP. 

‘The requirement is still being shaped,’ Mike Burke, director of attack helicopter programmes business development at Boeing, told Shephard. 

The commander of the Malaysian defence forces flew in the AH-6 Little Bird on 12 February in an effort to show the capability of the aircraft, Burke noted.

‘We’re trying to show the capability of the aircraft,’ he continued.

'The number of aircraft required and the timeline for acquiring them has not yet been decided, although they have concluded that they have a need for this. With the insurgency… they didn’t have an attack helicopter to respond with.’

Boeing would offer the Little Bird for the Malaysian requirement, and Burke said the aircraft is optimised for the reconnaissance and light attack mission, as well as having a stand-off capability up to some 2-3 miles. Its big brother, the AH-64 Apache, has seen regional successes with Japan, Singapore, and South Korea while Indonesia and India are also in the process of acquiring them.

Meanwhile, Bob Carrese, regional VP of international military business development, Asia Pacific for Bell Helicopter, said that Malaysia is interested in both theBell UH-1Y and AH-1Z. 

‘It fits with the region’s requirements because the aircraft are fully marinised with lower maintenance required,’ he explained.

‘Malaysia is interested in the helicopter but we are in the early stages of the process. In their mind they have narrowed it down, but it still needs to be announced.’

Airbus Helicopters has taken its EC665 Tiger attack helicopter to the past two Langkawi Airshows in an effort to appeal to the Malaysian market, and has also carried out flight demonstrations of the aircraft in-country. 

Daniel Cottard, operational marketing team leader at the company, said that the operational range of the aircraft is some 8-10 km depending on air conditions, which makes it effective in a range of environments.

‘The Tiger has elected to carry out a more non-emitting role, unlike the Apache which has a radar. There is nothing wrong with a radar, but the Tiger is a passive mode aircraft,’ Cottard said. 

‘If you don’t control the air you don’t control anything… Malaysia is as capable as anywhere else and there is no difficulty in applying this aircraft to their requirements.’

Regarding the jungle environment prevalent in Malaysia, Cottard said that targeting insurgents in and among the foliage is incredibly difficult, but ‘you can’t say in the jungle for long'.

‘You have to come out eventually and then you will be seen,’ he continued. This application emphasises the reconnaissance role of the aircraft. 

‘The key is to combine air, land and sea. The Tiger would be fine in this [Malaysian] facility of operations.’

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since we're on the subject of attack heli... why not get this?

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 16 2014, 09:13 PM)
since we're on the subject of attack heli... why not get this?

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Feb 16 2014, 08:31 PM)
SGA14: Industry preps for Malaysian attack helo requirement
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 16 2014, 09:28 PM)
For special forces maybe lar, kang nanti ada pulak yg cakap orang sulu boleh tembak ni pakai shotgun aje..
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because it is designed like a telur poon

dun underestimate the telur yo...it(or more like OH-6 cayuse, the predecessor) has the most survivable cabin of all light helos. even better than allouette.

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but baik putd uparm allouette je... beli BO-105 ke
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 16 2014, 09:13 PM)
since we're on the subject of attack heli... why not get this?

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These 1 not bad.
perhaps viper and little bird combo would be very interesting.
But then again we already have a109.

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