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 Income Tax Issues v3, Anything related to Personal Income Tax

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Saton666
post Jun 18 2015, 01:26 AM

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Previously the refund is as per Form BE, if LHDN is in doubt they should query the tax payer and delay the refund, but definitely not automatic deduct.

It seems that for tax payable they mark up more, for tax refund they potong sayur.

Cinya amkan.

I hope that our Member of Parliament will escalate this issue to the media attention. Totally unacceptable.
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:46 AM

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so i just received my bank in from lhdn
(assuming AUTOPAY CR
IRB15061208435
IRB15061208435
AKAUN KERAJAAN MALAY
Transfer From CIMB is it)

not only i have this shit Tunggakan Cukai Termasuk Ansuran Sehingga 15/02/2015 reducing my final amount by almost 200, the amount bank in to me is further reduced another 200 despite the final amount written on the slip is not what i received on my bank account.

what the hell?!
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:54 AM

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ts, you mean IRB only deducted epf and medical insurance for you, and you have claimed other reliefs?
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:54 AM

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I think LHDN is cooking on something but we do not know what is it yet..

Welcome to the victim list, we got 6 known victim now https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3611782
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:59 AM

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i mean my assessment is simple

Taxable income

minus
Personal relief
EPF relief
Medical insurance relief

Plain vanilla. Cannot go wrong la.

Now LHDN ask to pay extra amount, but never explain where does it comes from.
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post Jun 18 2015, 02:09 AM

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so they just issued a letter or FORM j request the payment?


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post Jun 18 2015, 09:32 AM

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They send an email, which i attach in the first post and ask to pay within 30 days...
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:38 AM

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Why not call Cust Service and ask? This is a funny thing IRB is doing.
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:43 AM

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Normally is because company PCB deduct too little. I always kena one.
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Jun 18 2015, 09:43 AM)
Normally is because company PCB deduct too little. I always kena one.
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TS, your issue might be this 1? check with your HR.
its better to calculate how much u need to pay for ur income tax
total income tax = total amout of salary/side income etc - total amount exception from tax( ur epf, etc as u mentioned)

then from here,
ur PCB - tax income= tax refund ( unless ur PCB is deduction everymonth quite little, u should get negative, which is u need to topup)


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post Jun 18 2015, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Jun 18 2015, 09:43 AM)
Normally is because company PCB deduct too little. I always kena one.
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either that or below:-

I also kena this before, when I changed job and there was a gap between my previous and current job. They ask me to account for the difference. they thought during the "gap" when i was looking for a job, I was still employed.

Now my employer overpay my PCB... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 18 2015, 10:03 AM

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This is nothing to do with PCB

Nowadays HR use software to calculate and the PCB deduction is very accurate. The tax amount after deduct PCB is less than 100 ringgit.

In Form BE, the PCB amount is automated if i remember correctly.
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QUOTE(Saton666 @ Jun 18 2015, 01:59 AM)
i mean my assessment is simple

Taxable income

minus
Personal relief
EPF relief
Medical insurance relief

Plain vanilla. Cannot go wrong la.

Now LHDN ask to pay extra amount, but never explain where does it comes from.
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You can ask for the explanation, whether there is anything wrong on the medical insurance relief part or any other.
Exceed the threshold limit?
Any part is wrong?
etc.

The most common that I saw some people wrongly claim the insurance relief part.

Engage with them to seek the actual reason.

PS: Please do not post the statement "gov has no money or not", it is not related to political issue. Finance section should be talking about finance issue only. Ty.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Jun 18 2015, 01:36 PM
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post Jun 18 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Saton666 @ Jun 18 2015, 01:54 AM)
I think LHDN is cooking on something but we do not know what is it yet..

Welcome to the victim list, we got 6 known victim now https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3611782
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may want to have a list going and compilation of "what can be done"/action items
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post Jun 18 2015, 12:42 PM

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thanks for highlighting this to me Saton666

the issue here is how they are giving me less money than the stated final amount (which already have another deduction from the final assessed amount) on my slip.

in summary:
i got deducted TWICE, one on the slip, and one on the actual amount received in my bank account.

example:
lhdn should pay me back 500
slip says i owe them or w/e BS "Tunggakan Cukai Termasuk Ansuran Sehingga 15/02/2015" is, so -200
= final amount to bank in = 300

however in my bank account, i received only rm100.

what. the. F.
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Jun 18 2015, 01:18 AM)
mine based on BE that i filed, i should get refund around 1.4k but i only receive 900+. i did not receive any letter yet.
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sigh same here
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post Jun 18 2015, 12:47 PM

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Havent you guys heard our dear PM mention our country is goign to be Bankrupt soon?

I have some money due back to me... until now also havent seen a single cent. DOnt even dare to call them, later they ask em go in investigate waste my 1 day leave..
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well friend of mine also kene..

He already paid around rm100.. now LHDN demand another RM200, say got something wrong with relief part yawn.gif
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post Jun 18 2015, 02:58 PM

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This days, LHDN very crook already....

They go to the extend of telling employer to increase deduction then refuse to return the overpaid tax...

When you seek the refund, they start audit and intimidate you, then also dig out over 10 years tax, when by law can only go back 6 years...

They also purposely reduce the PCB amount so they no need return the overpaid tax...

Gomen no money also cannot do like tat mar.... if the tax how they count also is overpaid, then return lar...

This songlap culture is very teruk dy....


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I don't know what's wrong with those who complain above. LHDN staff are paid to collect tax and work for you. If you have any single slightest doubt, go ahead and confront/question them. Ask for full details. You are entitle for it.
If you think taking one day off or wasting time, then just to shut-up, swallow the money lost and not complain here. You should be complaining directly to LHDN.

Throw the ball at them. I've been there, done that. Bring my 7 years file to LHDN and go through one by one with them. Nothing to be scared. If LHDN wants to charge me extra RM10, I want to know where it comes from.

Side track recent case earlier this year, TNB back-charge me due to faulty meter. However, somewhere RM10+ was unaccountable, even after pro-rata. I ask for explanation. TNB don't bother.
I lodge complain to TNB, TNB CS explain, but halfway only. The other half cannot explain.
I lodge complain to Suruhan Jaya Tenaga. TNB call me again, still can't explain and try to close case. I complain again, case reopen. In the end send 4 staff to meet me (at my home, at my convenience) to explain. 2 more was outside. The senior explain to me in 10 minutes only. Understand and settle, I accept. Case can close. In fact, TNB back-charge me lower than suppose to, I told them, please, if TNB want, you go back and bill me, I am willing to pay. I'm not scare they audit my meter or install tracking. I use, I pay, I told them. The usage does not fluctuate by large margin or amount.
All the above are done using online website, email, then they call my mobile. It's not that inconvenient.

My point is, YOU have your right to question LHDN. If you want to chicken out, don't grumble or say different out-of-topic things like government no money, corruption, songlap, etc.

Every human make mistakes, me included during submission in the beginning of my working/tax file. Just admit humbly, ask for forgiveness, first time (unless you purposely evade or under declare). I have no issue of not getting fine/penalty, they will give you chance to fix or pay it, if it is a sincere beginner mistake.
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