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post Dec 24 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Dec 24 2013, 08:46 AM)
Hardcore/basic/occasional gamer?

If you are hardcore (everything high/ultra setting) but you want under budget (<RM4k) then go to Lenovo Y510P dual SLI

If you are basic/occasional (medium to high) then you can go to other brand or Y510P single GC
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i think im basic/occasional gamer, everything from medium to high is okay for me
is the y510p can add-on ssd to it instead of dual SLI? i am preferring ssd+hdd on it
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post Dec 24 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Source96 @ Dec 24 2013, 11:00 AM)
I would say Y510P will be a better pick,just picked one up for my mom and she has no complains for it,but the glossy screen requires a little more focus if you bring it outdoors that is due to the glare interfering one's view.Otherwise the laptop is good the build quality is almost top notch with aluminums in and out and some hard plastic as well.Besides that,like most mentioned,the ultra bay is actually quite useful in the future can be replaced with various type of accessories.With the price tag being lower than the Msi,you can always use the balance for an SSD upgrade.Then it's pretty much a pocket rocket device you have.
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oh yes, was thinking an SSD upgrade too instead of dual GPU, and the screen ya, was a bad advantage on it, anti-glare is really a need for me
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post Dec 24 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(tigery @ Dec 24 2013, 03:55 PM)
i think im basic/occasional gamer, everything from medium to high is okay for me
is the y510p can add-on ssd to it instead of dual SLI? i am preferring ssd+hdd on it
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No problem, you can have internal SSD + HDD bay or internal HDD + SSD bay. However, you need to take out default internal HDD and ask some switch to SSD or diy

For the latter, PLS DONT TRY YOURSELF, I know someone successfully did that.

This post has been edited by shin2l: Dec 24 2013, 04:10 PM
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post Dec 24 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(tigery @ Dec 24 2013, 03:58 PM)
oh yes, was thinking an SSD upgrade too instead of dual GPU, and the screen ya, was a bad advantage on it, anti-glare is really a need for me
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The screen is as bad as you think.I have personally tested both Y5xx series (y500&510) and the screen looks perfect in indoors.Well it also work perfectly outdoors provided the fact that u have no strong lights and sunlights shining directly to your screen.Personally I don't mind taking another 510p for it's better design,well you have red led illuminated keyboard which is handy when you game in a dark environment? Not sure and on the other hand the msi has a thin profile which is another advantage in terms of design.However,as many ppl said the airflow inside might be a worrying factor.Still it boils down to ones preferences in terms of design and practicality so I can't force you to pick on one that you might not favor.Have you seen both models in person? Since you really an anti glare screen then look ahead on the msi.
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post Dec 25 2013, 12:14 AM

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what's the temperature of gt755m sli? is sli version available now?
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post Dec 25 2013, 12:53 PM

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RAM and hard disk should not be a consider factor when buying notebook as these part can be replace easily


rather CPU & GPU should be given a more consider role as these part cannot be replace and it will stick together with the notebook until you change a new notebook.

my suggest is always go for the latest Intel i7 and the best GPU that you can get.
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post Dec 25 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(wengjoe @ Dec 25 2013, 12:53 PM)
RAM and hard disk should not be a consider factor when buying notebook as these part can be replace easily
rather CPU & GPU should be given a more consider role as these part cannot be replace and it will stick together with the notebook until you change a new notebook.

my suggest is always go for the latest Intel i7 and the best GPU that you can get.
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CPU and GPU also can be replaced, but need to depend on socket or solder, if soldered then cant be replaced or upgraded
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post Dec 25 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Dec 25 2013, 01:49 PM)
CPU and GPU also can be replaced, but need to depend on socket or solder, if soldered then cant be replaced or upgraded
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unless you are referring to brand like Sager or Illegear which the budget exceed a normal person need.

plus you need to have MXM module type of notebook in order to have these part to be replace, compatibility is also another issue face by many people.

so choosing the right CPU & GPU is very important when buying notebook.
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post Dec 26 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(wengjoe @ Dec 25 2013, 03:36 PM)
unless you are referring to brand like Sager or Illegear which the budget exceed a normal person need.

plus you need to have MXM module type of notebook in order to have these part to be replace, compatibility is also another issue face by many people.

so choosing the right CPU & GPU is very important when buying notebook.
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You are right. From what i know, GTX770M and above (MXM module) can be switched, not sure GTX765M is soldered or MXM.

For CPU, intel I7 or I5 should be more than enough. Unless some gamers prefer high/ultra setting then they may opt to I7 (online, multiplayer, cpu intensive games)

For budget tight "normal person need", I think they have no choice, bcs most of the laptop are with CPU and GPU soldered especially GPU. Future upgrade is unlikely. Lenovo Y500/Y510P is exceptional.

If <RM3k, the most can go is I7 + GT750M or AMD GPU
If RM3k~RM4k, the most will be I7 + GT750M/GT755M SLI or GTX765M

For compatible issue, this one cant avoid, expecially every year when there are new GPUs released. Next year is more extreme: GTX880M with 8GB!! not sure is 28nm or 20nm.
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post Dec 27 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Dec 26 2013, 02:21 PM)
You are right. From what i know, GTX770M and above (MXM module) can be switched, not sure GTX765M is soldered or MXM.

For CPU, intel I7 or I5 should be more than enough. Unless some gamers prefer high/ultra setting then they may opt to I7 (online, multiplayer, cpu intensive games)

For budget tight "normal person need", I think they have no choice, bcs most of the laptop are with CPU and GPU soldered especially GPU. Future upgrade is unlikely. Lenovo Y500/Y510P is exceptional.

If <RM3k, the most can go is I7 + GT750M or AMD GPU
If RM3k~RM4k, the most will be I7 + GT750M/GT755M SLI or GTX765M

For compatible issue, this one cant avoid, expecially every year when there are new GPUs released. Next year is more extreme: GTX880M with 8GB!! not sure is 28nm or 20nm.
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Hmm.. depends on what kind of games TS plays..

Most games I've seen stresses on the GPU much more than anything else. I'm still using first generation i7 and it's working fine.. what's killing me always is having to upgrade my graphics card.. has changed from GTX 275 > 275 SLi > 580 > 580 SLi > 780.... -.-

I would say as long as you have an i5 dual, you should be alright and try to opt for better graphics... correct me if i'm wrong.
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post Dec 27 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Dec 27 2013, 08:34 PM)
Hmm.. depends on what kind of games TS plays..

Most games I've seen stresses on the GPU much more than anything else. I'm still using first generation i7 and it's working fine.. what's killing me always is having to upgrade my graphics card.. has changed from GTX 275 > 275 SLi > 580 > 580 SLi > 780.... -.-

I would say as long as you have an i5 dual, you should be alright and try to opt for better graphics... correct me if i'm wrong.
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you so rich, every graphic card with middle number not "7" then "8"

better combination is I7 + GTX?80M for always high/ultra settings

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post Jan 1 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(shin2l @ Dec 27 2013, 09:23 PM)
you so rich, every graphic card with middle number not "7" then "8"

better combination is I7 + GTX?80M for always high/ultra settings
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Don't need to buy brand new. /gg

You would be surprise how cheap these cards go for once the new generation is out. I bought the 275 when there was 480 already.. and my 580 when there was 680..

The only one I burnt for is the 780, but that's just recently and during the price drop due to competition from AMD.

You must also take note at what resolution the laptop will be having. In the case of the Y510p and GE60, it's at FullHD, so you'll need a little more grunt than normal. Scaling down is bad no matter how you see it.
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post Jan 1 2014, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jan 1 2014, 08:26 PM)
Don't need to buy brand new. /gg

You would be surprise how cheap these cards go for once the new generation is out. I bought the 275 when there was 480 already.. and my 580 when there was 680..

The only one I burnt for is the 780, but that's just recently and during the price drop due to competition from AMD.

You must also take note at what resolution the laptop will be having. In the case of the Y510p and GE60, it's at FullHD, so you'll need a little more grunt than normal. Scaling down is bad no matter how you see it.
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You buy those cards via ebay or Amazon right?

For me screen issue is not that important, unless can have Apple screen installed. HAHA tongue.gif

I prefer overall performance, e.g. I7 + GTX770M, good cooling, backlit keyboard, good audio system, good connection, FHD matte/non-glossy etc. I plan to use for 3~4 yrs if can more than that is better. Upgrade or not I dont think applicable for me bcs technology keep improving, 28nm then 22nm next may be 1? nm.

Instead of gaming, most people use laptop for online, entertainment or may be slightly rendering. They may think: as long as it doesnt lack then ok. I quite satisfied with my studio 1555 bcs after 4 yrs it still serves me well, just cant play games anymore. USB transfer rate makes me surprise bcs under USB 2.0, I can get steady 20+ MB/s (large files size) for Windows 8. smile.gif
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So TS, which one you bought ady ?

Me in dilemma between this two machine. Dayumm
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post Jan 6 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(x0x @ Jan 5 2014, 11:44 PM)
So TS, which one you bought ady ?

Me in dilemma between this two machine. Dayumm
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Which one you prefer? smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2014, 11:38 AM

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lastly i took gp60 considering the games i'll played + main function of the laptop...basically i prefer all-new msi gp60 & ge60 bcoz it is bundled with i7-4800MQ 2.7GHz....with the same retail price...
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QUOTE(x0x @ Jan 15 2014, 11:38 AM)
lastly i took gp60 considering the games i'll played + main function of the laptop...basically i prefer all-new msi gp60 & ge60 bcoz it is bundled with i7-4800MQ 2.7GHz....with the same retail price...
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So your GP60 is only with 4700MQ?

First thing need to check: USB 3.0 connect/disconnect issue for Win 8. I just had it on 1 port with Seagate portable harddisk
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QUOTE(x0x @ Jan 15 2014, 12:38 PM)
lastly i took gp60 considering the games i'll played + main function of the laptop...basically i prefer all-new msi gp60 & ge60 bcoz it is bundled with i7-4800MQ 2.7GHz....with the same retail price...
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MSI GP60 i7-4800MQ RM 2999
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i just found out MSI GE60 2OC-471MY Gaming Series currently giving better processor
Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ Processor

while Lenovo IdeaPad Y510P still
Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor

planning get 1 in this few week, izzit both giving 2yr warranty?

seems MSI spec slightly better than Lenovo!
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QUOTE(outlife11 @ Feb 6 2014, 09:30 PM)
i just found out MSI GE60 2OC-471MY Gaming Series currently giving better processor
Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ Processor

while Lenovo IdeaPad Y510P still
Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor

planning get 1 in this few week, izzit both giving 2yr warranty?

seems MSI spec slightly better than Lenovo!
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Rather get a GT750M than a i7 processor. Well of course, if you prioritize the screen, then the GP60 is good to go smile.gif

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