Richfag.

2k for all lah..haiz..i wanna go back this cny coz company force leave..so had to change..got all leaking also which have been fix..
so kinda cheap lah because including hi low soft hard...

Depends on how you categorize a lousy, efficient and superb-save FC...
It can be pretty subjective though and again it depends on your right foot.

Full of debt but still can vomit out 2k.

consolidated debt..
haha..


waiting for increment...lol


this year need to eat maggie everyday lor.. landlord say want to increase rent..haiz.

I hope you get ur increment since everyday also work. If not, only eat Maggi plastic wrapper liao.

Subjective yes, vague answer yes also


Put it this way, when you drive 3 different vehicles consistently to the same workplace (I do), almost same traffic condition (give and take over a period of time), with same driver, same driving condition, etc, the comparison is there. One can argue car with different make, engine cc, body size makes a difference and can't be compared directly but for a layman, they are only concern enuf to to read if I drive 3 different cars to same place, what FC for each car is like.

For City VTEC 1.5 2006, its abt 14km/l, for Civic and PE, both comes to 10-11km/l in general.

City and PE same size, different weight (same class tho), Civic 1.8 different class and weight. For layman again, it will read as City having a superb FC while PE being in same class (1.6cc) is at 11km/l at most. That goes on par with a much bigger car. That for me makes it lousy FC. Efficient or not, who cares, the end result is HOW much FC it takes to reach the same place with same driver, driving style, etc.

This is bo tak che (Tak da technical) punya explanation, hahaha, but really, for layman understanding when asking abt fc, they are usually more concern on HOW MUCH FC to reach a place. Shoot me if I'm wrong.....

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 20 2014, 03:42 PM

Sure, those crazy sound experts or those very sensitive to noise might appreciate the difference.....mmm...gua nowadays a bit deaf liao due to the buka radio kuat kuat to cover car noise.

Wonder whether the bugger change a new air filter or at least clean the air filter at same time for each change.....do note those extra items also contribute to the noise.

二是这次换的时候才注意到机滤只是一个普通型，不是长效型的，普通型建议五千一换的，我居然跑了一万三，怪不得一万以后衰减严重

I laugh like shit when I see this.....reminds me of someone here....never change oil wan...

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 20 2014, 02:06 PM

i don't even know our oil filter got normal 1 or long-lasting 1.
and i even laughed when i knew such db test exists, and it was on our beloved car where other parts are more noisy than the engine itself imo.

They used this filter quite sometime liao....for 5K service, so go figure, that's why I recommend only 5-7k mileage.

got such long lasting oil filter exists for our car? how much it cost?
btw, last month i went spare part shop want buy oil filter, that boss said proton's he already sold out no stock, got oem brand. so i bought the oem brand for rm5, i forget what brand liao, even cheaper than some of my daily meal!

rule of thumb!

I no follow because I use FS. So?

Personally I don't like OEM especially RM5 ones. There is A LOT OF DIFFERENCE in FILTERATION MATERIAL inside. Oil Filter are meant to efficiently filter lube to minimize contaminant flowing in engine. Its not just for show only. It is almost as important as using a good lube but unfortunately most ppl ignore its importance.

I still follow even when I used FS lor.....

But if no follow, ok wan....just like ppl makan expired bread does not necessary means its spoiled. Just the risk of spoilage or having food poisoning increased exponentially only.

answer as below...change oil filter at 5k...engine oil no need change until 10k...

More like linearly. BTW, I put expired bread inside fridge and take it out make as toast.

ok mar, see the thread link i gave, oil used for 13,000km still come out as "liquid", at least it's flowing out from engine not having to open engine to clean-up the sludge.

I know got one buaya car 20K also no change oil. Inb4 PE cheapjing car.

what oil filter u using? proton 1? also i found there is AMP brand from proton, same quality?