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LTG
post Oct 16 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Oct 16 2018, 03:54 PM)
Based on SMA 2013 - developer can only have one representative in the JMB REGARDLESS of number of units in hand...

To be sure just call up COB and get confirmation ..
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developer representative become chairman and support by their staff which also own some unit there
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post Oct 16 2018, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 16 2018, 04:00 PM)
developer representative become chairman and support by their staff which also own some unit there
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if that is the case, the owners can file an official complaint to the cob
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post Dec 6 2018, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(sailou @ Mar 15 2017, 06:51 PM)
So what sort of problem that you require a change of management company?

Management company are more or less the same unless you are willing to fork out higher price for better quality.

Otherwise, you will need a set of extremely committed management committee.
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Hi, is JMB pay for management company annual bonus?

our mgnt company ask us to pay

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post Dec 6 2018, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(leongsem @ Dec 6 2018, 04:12 PM)
Hi, is JMB pay for management company annual bonus?

our mgnt company ask us to pay
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no they cant force you guys to pay unless its in the contract that you signed with the management company - read through the
terms and conditions and see anything stated re bonus if not its totally discretionary!

This post has been edited by nookie188: Dec 6 2018, 05:32 PM
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post Dec 6 2018, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Dec 6 2018, 05:31 PM)
no they cant force you guys to pay unless its in the contract that you signed with the management company - read through the
terms and conditions and see anything stated re bonus if not its totally discretionary!
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we only pay for those staff that station in our condo.....

we might need to review again next year, tq
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post Dec 6 2018, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(leongsem @ Dec 6 2018, 06:07 PM)
we only pay for those staff that station in our condo.....

we might need to review again next year, tq
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It is right that you only pay bonus if it's stated in the contract. Most of the time the management company will jack up the staff salary to include other perks such as EPF , SOCSO, annual bonus and insurance. In another sense it means that they claimed 2500 salary from your condo for the admin staff but in actual the staff only gets 1800 monthly. The rest is his perks.

Nevertheless, JMB or MC often don't care if staffs are well paid or fairly paid because they need to save as much money as possible. Hence, the quality of management company are often poor because of staff turnover. You might want to ponder if your current staff is good but they don't get their bonus. So do you think they will still be around in another 3 months?
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post Mar 15 2019, 11:07 AM

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Hi,

May I know to organize a town hall do the JMB take responsibilities or the resident need to organize it? (Preparing people to take minutes, spokes person, time keeper etc)
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post Mar 18 2019, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(minseaman @ Mar 15 2019, 11:07 AM)
Hi,

May I know to organize a town hall do the JMB take responsibilities or the resident need to organize it? (Preparing people to take minutes, spokes person, time keeper etc)
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your town hall is it refer to AGM/EGM?
If this is 1st AGM of JMB/MC, it should arrange by developer, if this is 2nd or subsequent AGM for JMB/MC, should be arrange by JMB/MC
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post Mar 19 2019, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(ulala2 @ Mar 18 2019, 12:05 PM)
your town hall is it refer to AGM/EGM?
If this is 1st AGM of JMB/MC, it should arrange by developer, if this is 2nd or subsequent AGM for JMB/MC, should be arrange by JMB/MC
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Hi,

Umm.. actually our JMB is not very responsive and didnt address to many urgent issues that we had. So, some unhappy resident called for Townhall so that JMB / JMC can answer the resident's enquiries. But there was a debate on who will be organizing the townhall meeting, as the JMB so far was silent...
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post Mar 20 2019, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(minseaman @ Mar 19 2019, 09:09 AM)
Hi,

Umm.. actually our JMB is not very responsive and didnt address to many urgent issues that we had. So, some unhappy resident called for Townhall so that JMB / JMC can answer the resident's enquiries. But there was a debate on who will be organizing the townhall meeting, as the JMB so far was silent...
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As refer to SMA Act 2013 Second Schedule, Section 11, EGM

The JMB/MC shall convene an EGM with the condition
1) requisition in writting made by the proprietor who are together entitled to at least one-quarter of the aggregate share units
2) As directed by COB
3) or such other occasion as it think fit.

For your situation, you may try to gather a group of proprietor (1/4 of share unit) and issue written request to JMB/MC to convene EGM to discuss on all the urgent issue as mentioned by u.

Please read Section 11 for more details.
TQ
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post Mar 20 2019, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ulala2 @ Mar 20 2019, 12:53 PM)
As refer to SMA Act 2013 Second Schedule, Section 11, EGM

The JMB/MC shall convene an EGM with the condition
1) requisition in writting made by the proprietor who are together entitled to at least one-quarter of the aggregate share units
2) As directed by COB
3) or such other occasion as it think fit.

For your situation, you may try to gather a group of proprietor (1/4 of share unit) and issue written request to JMB/MC to convene EGM to discuss on all the urgent issue as mentioned by u.

Please read Section 11 for more details.
TQ
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alright, i will try to read & understand. thanks yeah
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post Mar 23 2019, 06:10 PM

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How to compel residents to attend AGM? My apartment is low dense with 90+ units.

Last AGM only have 4 residents attending vs 7 committee members + staff. COB handbook says that if no quorum, then AGM will proceed after x amount of minutes.

Problem is that Committee members are not able to quit (all been here for 3 - 4 years). Some residents come in, scold the committee then walk out.
But when got problems with the building (homestay, broken this and that, guards etcs) the residents look at committee members like they owe them money.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 23 2019, 06:10 PM)
How to compel residents to attend AGM? My apartment is low dense with 90+ units.

Last AGM only have 4 residents attending vs 7 committee members + staff. COB handbook says that if no quorum, then AGM will proceed after x amount of minutes.

Problem is that Committee members are not able to quit (all been here for 3 - 4 years). Some residents come in, scold the committee then walk out.
But when got problems with the building (homestay, broken this and that, guards etcs) the residents look at committee members like they owe them money.
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Extremely common in Malaysia. It's even worse in many other places. Just stand your ground and make sure the account is not in red.
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post Mar 25 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 23 2019, 06:10 PM)
How to compel residents to attend AGM? My apartment is low dense with 90+ units.

Last AGM only have 4 residents attending vs 7 committee members + staff. COB handbook says that if no quorum, then AGM will proceed after x amount of minutes.

Problem is that Committee members are not able to quit (all been here for 3 - 4 years). Some residents come in, scold the committee then walk out.
But when got problems with the building (homestay, broken this and that, guards etcs) the residents look at committee members like they owe them money.
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Based on new act, all members should not more than 3 terms if not mistaken. So if after that no ppl want to become JMB/MC. Get COB help to appoint Managing Agent.
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QUOTE(ulala2 @ Mar 25 2019, 12:50 PM)
Based on new act, all members should not more than 3 terms if not mistaken. So if after that no ppl want to become JMB/MC. Get COB help to appoint Managing Agent.
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Thanks.
I looked up the strata management act 2013

Not more than 3 terms for member, cannot hold top 3 post for more than 2 consecutive terms.

Will educate the residents accordingly prior to AGM.
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post Jun 1 2020, 05:25 PM

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Oh, just discovered this thread. I posted in the main prop forum but do any of you guys have a ballpark figure for how much a security / barrier gate system costs? Medium level no need super high end canggih tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2020, 10:23 AM

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This seems like such an unpleasant job to have with no returns. Anyone here is part of a JMB/MC? May I know why you decided to join and any regrets? Jst curious. Hats off to you for taking it on.


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QUOTE(AIAF @ Jun 5 2020, 10:23 AM)
This seems like such an unpleasant job to have with no returns. Anyone here is part of a JMB/MC? May I know why you decided to join and any regrets? Jst curious. Hats off to you for taking it on.
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Full of regrets. Making enemies within your living compound. You do make plenty of new friends though if you are active enough.

No one will say a praise for the super good job you might have done but will pick on some very minor mistakes to belittle you.
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post Jun 11 2020, 06:19 PM

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hi there,is anyone know if jmb not enuf committee then can simply get owner's in as committee member without any of EGM/AGM??

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QUOTE(sailou @ Jun 5 2020, 12:03 PM)
Full of regrets. Making enemies within your living compound. You do make plenty of new friends though if you are active enough.

No one will say a praise for the super good job you might have done but will pick on some very minor mistakes to belittle you.
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Aih... human behaviour, fast to complain, slow to show gratitude. Any 'funny business' in your experience in JMC?

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