normally after few years apple will do a manual change of the macbook pro though. for example, it was changed to unibody design since 2012, retina display is available on mbp after that. Weight was reduced by 50g. Force touch pad was introduced this year. Price was cut for macbook pro in 2012. Quite some major changes.

2016, it will be 4 yrs since this major update, so it is possible that they change the rMBP or macbook air given that they have a new solid totally revented 12-inch macbook to follow.

price wise actually apple product from what i see, it either remains or lower down (in USD at least), good example will be price drop for rMBP in 2012, iMac last year and iMac 5k this year.

it becomes even steeper purely becos of weak MYR.

This post has been edited by westlife: Dec 27 2015, 12:06 PM

Can be replaced by Apple service center with a surcharge for out of warranty unit. Unless the mbp is no longer support by Apple.

This post has been edited by poi2005: Dec 27 2015, 12:16 PM

Yup, with the weak My, everything is more expensive.
I m looking at Xps 13 (Skylake) also, but due to Win10...still a bit reluctant as my current experience with surface pro 3 Win10.

windows 10 vs windows 8.1/7, frankly i do not feel much changes except the cosmetic changes. framkly speaking, if not because of the free upgrade to windows 10 offer now, i would rather stick to windows 7. It is more stable and the UI is cleaner.

I totally agreed with you. Too bad surface pro 3 doesn't come with windows 7
Let's hope new rMBP will get major upgrade

should be quite expensive i guess? Maybe after 5 yrs of usage when the macbook battery dead time, it is more cost effective to buy a new one.

2015 rMBP cannot support windows 7 in the bootcamp anymore also. It must use min Windows 8.

Well, depends on your model, https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=ser...ct=Macnotebooks for your reference price in USD for battery servicing.

I run Win7 via VMware on my iMac

This post has been edited by poi2005: Dec 27 2015, 01:38 PM

IC. I use VMware fusion too. But I run windows directly from boot camp partition.
Run windows on a virtual had disk I feel not so convenient as to retrieve files etc the VM must be running. And touch wood anything want to retrieve back file from the virtual hardisk is also troublesome.

Still no sign of the Skylake MacBook Pro? Maybe Apple got big changes for this update?

No sign. But it is possible that they do a more major change this round,

of coz. price increase = major change.

not necessary, macbook retina 2012 got a price drop even it has a lot better screen.

i don't remember the price dropping. it launched with the same price as the previous generation of RM6799

Both 13" and 15" got price cut before.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/24866...-up-to-13-.html

Apple cuts MacBook Pro prices up to 13%

13-in. Retina MacBook Pro now $400 less than in January

Apple earlier this week cut the prices of its Retina MacBook Pro laptops by as much as 13%, a move one retail analyst said was driven in part by increased competition from higher-end Windows systems.
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On Tuesday, Apple refreshed its MacBook Pro line, reconfiguring the laptops with the latest Core i5 and Core i7 processors based on its Haswell architecture, replacing previous chipsets with an Intel graphics processor dubbed "Iris," and putting the new models on a modest diet.

The 13-in. MacBook Pro is 5% thinner and 3% lighter, for example.

Apple also reduced prices by $200, from $1,499 to $1,299 for the least expensive 13-in. laptop, and from $2,199 to $1,999 for the 15-in. model. Those cuts represented price decreases of 13% and 9%, respectively.

Since the start of the year, Apple has slashed the price of the entry-level 13-in. Retina MacBook Pro by 24%.

The MacBook Pro was Apple's second notebook line this year to see price cuts. In June, Apple rolled out tweaked MacBook Airs at prices 7% to 8% lower than their predecessors.

Historically, the Cupertino, Calif., company has rarely lowered Mac prices, preferring instead to keep those stable but swap newer, faster processors for older CPUs, add more memory or increase storage.

But times are different, said Stephen Baker of the NPD Group.

"Apple's very high premium pricing is getting more difficult to sustain in this environment," said Baker, talking about the historic slump in the personal computer industry, now into its sixth straight quarter. "They needed to bring the pricing more in line with the overall market."

Apple has been having a harder time selling Macs, just as has virtually every other computer maker. In the quarter that ended June 30, Apple sold 7% fewer Macs than it did during the same period the year prior, for instance.

The price cuts were also an admission by Apple that tablets continue to cannibalize sales of laptops, said Baker. "Apple's portion of the $1,000-plus PC market is not quite as big as it used to be," he noted. "They've had some cannibalization in their higher buckets."

That cannibalization has come from both tablets and lower-priced notebooks, including Apple's own MacBook Air line, said Baker. And also, in a small way, from touch-based Windows portables and the even more radical designs known as "convertibles," "hybrids" or "2-in-1s."

"In the past year, premium-priced Windows [devices] have seen pretty decent growth," said Baker. "They're starting from very low volumes, but that's still growth."

Unlike Windows OEMs (original equipment manufacturers), Apple has an advantage when it comes to tablet cannibalization: It can sell its own iPad and at least keep customers within its garden.

Apple has actually reveled in the trend. "I see cannibalization as a huge opportunity for us," said CEO Tim Cook during a January 2013 conference call with Wall Street. "One, our base philosophy is to never fear cannibalization. If we do, somebody else will just cannibalize it, and so we never fear it. We know that iPad will cannibalize some Macs [so] that doesn't worry us."

Baker thought that was smart.

"They get retail, and one of the key pieces of retail is that products get cannibalized," said Baker. "But it's always better to cannibalize your own rather than let someone else do it, even if it costs [you] some margin."

On Tuesday, Cook reaffirmed Apple's stake in the personal computer market, perhaps responding to talk over the last several weeks that Apple might -- and in some analysts' minds, should -- mimic Microsoft and force the iPad into 2-in-1 duty as a light-weight laptop by adding a keyboard.

"Our competition is different. They're confused. They chased after netbooks. Now they're trying to make tablets into PCs, and PCs into tablets," Cook said at the rollout of the new iPads. "[But] we have a very clear direction and a very ambitious goal. We still believe deeply in this category [of traditional notebooks] and we're not slowing down on our innovation."

Apple also dumped the 15-in. non-Retina MacBook Pro from its sales list on Tuesday, leaving only the 13-in. model as a not-with-Retina choice. That notebook relies on a 500GB platter-style hard disk drive rather than an SSD (solid-state drive) and is the last of Apple's laptops to include a built-in DVD drive. The 13-in. MacBook Pro starts at $1,199, now just $100 less than the bottom-end 13-in. Retina MacBook Pro.
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i'm referring to 2012 model as you said on the previous post.
i'm 100% positive that the price was the same as 2011 model

i said wrongly, it is 2013 model instead.

my point is not about the model but I am trying to say that apple does drop price for products, iMac had dropped price for twice last year and this year too.

You can get around that by using the shared folders feature in Fusion. Store all your working files in the mounted folder and you won't have to fire up the VM when you need to retrieve them.

That said, with 16GB RAM I'd rather just pause the VM instead of shutting it down.

It is provided u have to stick to few folders like what u ca work on a full system.

If create the VM from bootcamp. The vm will not be able to paused when the Mac is shut down,

Hi guys, may I know is it possible to buy AppleCare Protection Plan (ACPP) from Apple Malaysia online? The model is Mid-2014 13-inch Retina MBP, still under warranty. Thanks!