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post Jun 22 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 22 2016, 04:01 PM)
Using Pioneer SM800 floors stand but not that impressive. Was looking at Velodyne sub. What avr you recommend for DZ speaker?
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I used to have that pioneer speaker. Is reasonable. Better to look into SVS
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post Jun 22 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 22 2016, 04:01 PM)
Using Pioneer SM800 floors stand but not that impressive. Was looking at Velodyne sub. What avr you recommend for DZ speaker?
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Yeah, then you must get DZ series to paired with your Dali Vokal. I think SVS would be a good option for sub as also suggested by Sifu Sonerin!

I think maybe you can paired with Yamaha, Denon or Marantz which are warmer sounding amp that will suit the Dali speakers. Different amplifiers have differing sound signatures and each one of these receivers is distinguishable from the other. To me, the Yamaha has a more dynamic sound to it than the Denon. I suggest you audition and try to compare the two before deciding on it.
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post Jun 22 2016, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 21 2016, 03:03 PM)
i find crossover 80hz is too high as the voice lose its weight for mixed music / movie usage.
60hz for me, or independent group for front-center-surround is prefered.

enable thx mode the roll off point act differently (less steep... more blend with sub) compared to normal mode. thats what make the cinema feel voice tone.
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It's room dependant, speaker placement dependant and speaker choice itself.

Crossing at 60hz with towers placed 2 inches from the rear or side wall is asking for muddy, boomy bass. Then there are speakers which just craps out anything below 80hz, have a very steep roll off even if their specs say otherwise.

A good linear sub will even blend with full range towers at 80hz as long as the sub is placed properly and is capable of LFE.


QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 22 2016, 06:46 PM)
Yeah, then you must get DZ series to paired with your Dali Vokal. I think SVS would be a good option for sub as also suggested by Sifu Sonerin! 

I think maybe you can paired with Yamaha, Denon or Marantz which are warmer sounding amp that will suit the Dali speakers. Different amplifiers have differing sound signatures and each one of these receivers is distinguishable from the other. To me, the Yamaha has a more dynamic sound to it than the Denon. I suggest you audition and try to compare the two before deciding on it.
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Don't know if I can agree with that fully. While it's true that amps can sound different to one another (which is also why they measure differently), I'm not going to agree that one has to absolutely match a certain amp to a certain set of speakers.

Pioneer has the so called "clinical" sound as what most people would like to describe, but does that mean that it absolutely has to be paired with warm sounding speakers from the likes of Wharfedale?

Picking a receiver has more to do than what it "sounds" like, because IMO that should be the least of concerns. The most important thing in an amp is reliability and power.

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post Jun 22 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 22 2016, 06:46 PM)
Yeah, then you must get DZ series to paired with your Dali Vokal. I think SVS would be a good option for sub as also suggested by Sifu Sonerin! 

I think maybe you can paired with Yamaha, Denon or Marantz which are warmer sounding amp that will suit the Dali speakers. Different amplifiers have differing sound signatures and each one of these receivers is distinguishable from the other. To me, the Yamaha has a more dynamic sound to it than the Denon. I suggest you audition and try to compare the two before deciding on it.
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So which type of sub should get? Sealed or Bass reflex?
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post Jun 22 2016, 10:52 PM

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^You mean sealed or ported.

That depends on how much room you have and how loud you want to go under 30hz.
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post Jun 22 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 22 2016, 10:42 PM)
So which type of sub should get? Sealed or Bass reflex?
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Currently what sub are you using? Is it a ported or seal one? Do you plan to use dual sub and what's the size of your space for HT?

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post Jun 22 2016, 11:26 PM

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coincidently all my spkr are seal type.
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 22 2016, 11:04 PM)
Currently what sub are you using? Is it a ported or seal one? Do you plan to use dual sub and what's the size of your space for HT?
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Current sub 12 inches dual ported at living hall
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 22 2016, 11:29 PM)
Current sub 12 inches dual ported at living hall
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I supposed your living hall should be quite spacious since you already using dual 12" ported subs. So want to upgrade for better performance sub?

If space is not an issue then you can go for ported sub because it will typically offer better low-end extension as well as greater output but it is advisable to have two same subs.

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post Jun 23 2016, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 22 2016, 11:35 PM)
I supposed your living hall should be quite spacious since you already using dual 12" ported subs. So want to upgrade for better performance sub?

If space is not an issue then you can go for ported sub because it will typically offer better low-end extension as well as greater output but it is advisable to have two same subs.
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Only 1 sub with 2 reflex hole smile.gif the low end frequency is OK until the door can vibrate but lack of punchy bass.
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 23 2016, 07:42 AM)
Only 1 sub with 2 reflex hole smile.gif the low end frequency is OK until the door can vibrate but lack of punchy bass.
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I see and can understand! smile.gif

Svs Pb2000 is good option to go with. Have you audition any Svs sub before? Sub placement is important too ya.
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post Jun 23 2016, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 23 2016, 09:02 AM)
I see and can understand!  smile.gif

Svs Pb2000 is good option to go with. Have you audition any Svs sub before? Sub placement is important too ya.
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Yeah, was tested the SVS sub at Actsessory subang Jaya and quoted pb1000 nearly 3k. But looking for bigger sub to replace current pioneer sub, dont want mix the sub tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 23 2016, 09:25 AM)
Yeah,  was tested the SVS sub at Actsessory subang Jaya and quoted pb1000 nearly 3k. But looking for bigger sub to replace current pioneer sub,  dont want mix the sub tongue.gif
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SVS has a lot of big sub
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 23 2016, 09:25 AM)
Yeah,  was tested the SVS sub at Actsessory subang Jaya and quoted pb1000 nearly 3k. But looking for bigger sub to replace current pioneer sub,  dont want mix the sub tongue.gif
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So how's pb1000 sounded to you, good? Pb2000 will be better. If can try to spend more on sub. smile.gif


QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 23 2016, 11:26 AM)
SVS has a lot of big sub
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Yeah... thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 23 2016, 11:40 AM)
So how's pb1000 sounded to you, good? Pb2000 will be better. If can try to spend more on sub.  smile.gif
Yeah...  :thumbsup:
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July AV show you can sure demo the big boys
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post Jun 23 2016, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 23 2016, 01:11 PM)
July AV show you can sure demo the big boys
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This big guns should be available there! I 'm planning to check it out at the show...

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post Jun 23 2016, 02:55 PM

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Get dual PB2000s if budget allows, then make sure you belanja makan for your neighbors every month.

Otherwise a single PB12+ is also a great alternative.
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post Jun 23 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 23 2016, 01:11 PM)
July AV show you can sure demo the big boys
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Jun 23 2016, 01:30 PM)
This big guns should be available there! I 'm planning to check it out at the show as well...
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 23 2016, 02:55 PM)
Get dual PB2000s if budget allows, then make sure you belanja makan for your neighbors every month.

Otherwise a single PB12+ is also a great alternative.
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dual PB2000 cost close to 5 figure d sweat.gif
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 23 2016, 08:04 PM)
dual PB2000 cost close to 5 figure d  sweat.gif
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Then buy 1 now and buy another la. Either way, the PB2000 will rip your pioneer sub to shreds.
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post Jun 23 2016, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 23 2016, 08:04 PM)
dual PB2000 cost close to 5 figure d  sweat.gif
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Bro it's worthy after setup wt your HT it will move U! I think can get below 4.5k. I'm saving up for it now... nod.gif


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