If you plan to expand to more speakers (7.1.4 or more), it is advisable to use the same speakers everywhere. Atmos / DTS:X is here to stay. You want seamless panning of sound with the most minimal change in sound.

Another tips, make sure you choose a speaker that can handle your required listening level. Minimum distortion = priceless feeling.

Timbre matching is cool, nice and ideal. But if budget does not permit that or sacrifice has to be made to the more important speakers in the system (the LCR and sub), then it's only pointless to put the money into surrounds and forget about the foundation.

@emy_xvidia

you can check out this two package offered CMY & Wharf Audio
Style Laser website got a lot of HT package info too, do check it out.


CMY Audio Mission package
CMY Hifi package


wharf audio Damansarahttp://www.wharfaudio.com/
Wharfedale HT package

This post has been edited by JML: Nov 6 2017, 08:55 PM

Agree. Recently, our customer wanted to buy an avr that can do 11.2 processing. We got him a X4400H since it has the same quad DSP as X6400. With power amps added in to do full 11ch, it has much cleaner power.

Usually avr runs out of steam when you have all channels connected to it, making it losing almost half of its power.

hi all..

i'm newbie here..

just finding soundbard... since my space is limit..

thinking to get sony soundbar ht-ct80

it's ok?

read review need to use their own remote to control soundbar..

i prefer if can just using remote tv.. btw my tv is sony WE75.. screen is awesome nice.. but speaker is so so.. more better my old aquos sharp..

tq all.

Why not look in garage sales if there is any used one to start first

May I know what cables are you using for your setup? I don’t really fancy the idea of paying too much fo the cables as I noticed some shops do sell ‘high-quality?’ speaker cable but the price per meter is beyond what I am willing to pay. Any ideas where to buy reels of cable for a 15-16ft long room, I assume 12-14 awg suits for what I plan to do?

Yes, that’s what I have in mind now. All same brand speakers coz I’m just noob and honestly I like them all to look the same, meaning no mix and match for me I guess except maybe for the height speakers. Downgrading my last planned setup to an initial 5.1.2 or 5.1.4.

Plan to downgrade the AVR to Denon 4400H and add up Stereo amp later on down the line when budget is healthy once again.

Anyway saw Style Laser latest Klipsch HT 5.1 RP280 setup. Kinda tempted to take that. I forgot where I read on this forum but do they have good after sales service? Last time I remembered reading one thread from one forummer that buy from them and forget them afterwards. That scares me a little lol.

What after sale service do you expect from buying speaker? Do you think the HF driver will fail easily? Or do you expect some kind of speaker defect in the near future?

Bro, thousands of ringgit worth of equipments, the AVR, they CAN fail. Of course I expect some kind of after-sale service out of any place that I plan to buy these from.

Even all of my TVs they have extended warranty slapped on them. Brands ranging from Sony, Samsung and LG. I don’t trust brands, all electronics, sometimes they just fail.

I am using oxygen cable from Taiwan. I remember about RM12 per meter

make sure you know speaker companies that still continue to manufacture and provide support for parts that are 20 years old (or older) in market.

budget 1k for 2.0 setup got what nice recommendation?

Used speakers and amp will be a good start

SVS launches 4000 series subwoofers - https://www.svsound.com/pages/4000-series

Basically a replacement for the 13-Ultra series, but also priced cheaper with some refinements to the driver.

Better and cheaper as compare to 13-Ultra?

This post has been edited by saitong09: Dec 1 2017, 05:51 PM

Yes.

But by how much, will have to wait and find out. My best guess is to take the PB/SB12 NSD line vs the PB/SB/PC 2000 line as a loose comparison. That means it's safe to expect a 2-4db increase on average in overall output below 35hz.

Other than that though, I'm sure the 4000 series is basically SVS finally acknowledging the competition from PSA, Hsu and Rythmik.

Also it's highly probably they skipped the 3000 number so they could introduce it next year to replace the "Plus" line because that's getting very old in the tooth and has no place in the market currently price wise.

price is +- with ultra,PC4000 is very interesting 16hz in sealed mode lower than SB4000.i'm fan of PC sub after owned pc13u

Hi guy. I have a RX-A3040 and currently running in 7.2.1 setup.

I'm want to add an external amp for my front to
- off load my front from the AVR
- experiment with bi-amping my front
- do a 7.4.1 setup
- second zone.

To do this I'll need at least a 4 channel amp. I'm considering the used market to keep the cost down.

My plan is to first run my front on the external amp. This will allow me to do 7.4.1 setup. I'll see if there is an overall improvement in system performance in 7.2.1 setup. After that I'll experiment with bi-amping. If there is improvement then I'll leave it at that and the second zone might be served by BT3 later or when the front amp/speakers is upgraded. I can also NOT do bi-amp and use the extra channel for second zone if the need arise.

To sum the possible layout:
- external bi-amp front
- 7.4.1 setup
- 2nd zone later (BT3 maybe or when upgrade front speaker/amp)

or

- external amp front
- 7.4.1 setup
- external amp second zone

Most amp out there (I know of and within reach) will only do 2 channel, while they do A+B most are not bi-amp but bi-wire. I say this because if using A only min. 4 ohm, but A+B is min. 8ohm. And all my speakers are 6 ohm.

After looking around I have 2 possible options:
A pair of Kenwood KM-X1000 listed at RM2500
or
ADCOM GFA-6000 + GTP-600 listed at RM1588
or
Emotiva BasX-A300 (but where's the fun in experimenting?)

My question is will these amps allow me to do the above?
Are they at least as powerful and as clean as my RX-A3040?

With the KM-X1000 I should have enough power. Being separate amps, I have better redundacy if one goes down.

With the GFA-6000 I'm thinking to drive my HF using the 2 rear 60w(8ohm)-100w(4ohm) channel and the LF using the 2x100w(8ohm)-150w(4ohm) front channels.
As a bonus I could even drive my center using the 3rd front channel.
The pre-amp will probably be useful when I setup second zone.



My speakers are as below:
Front Yamaha NS-F160, Nominal/Max 50W/300W, 30Hz-36kHZ (-10dB), 87dB/2.83V/1m
Center Yamaha NS-C160, Nominal/Max 30W/80W, 60Hz-38kHZ (-10dB), 86dB/2.83V/1m
Front Height Yamaha NS-B160, Nominal/Max 30W/80W, 60Hz-38kHZ (-10dB), 82dB/2.83V/1m
Surround Back, Yamaha NS-B330, Nominal/Max 40W/120W, 55Hz-45kHZ (-10dB), 87dB/2.83V/1m
Surround Side, ELAC Debut B6, Nominal/Max ?W/120W, 44Hz-20kHZ (?dB), 87dB/2.83V/1m

Don’t waste your money.

Why bi-amp? You don't even have an external crossover unit to make bi-amp a noticeable difference.

No comment on the Kenwood amp, but the Adcom GFA-6000 and Emotiva BasX A300 has a more capable amp section than the A3040. Both can handle 4ohm loads at high volumes with relative ease. I have an A500 which in comparison to my A3060, does handle transient loads more linearly and does sound cleaner overall.
The receiver will get pretty darn hot when running at near reference volumes, especially since I crossover at 60hz. Is there an objective "sound quality" difference though? No, lol. That said, my A500 is relegated to powering my height speakers only as my main LCRs are powered by a Parasound A51.

Honestly, if you are looking at entry-level external amps - you should just be getting them for the sole purpose of adding more speakers. The latter of which it seems like you are planning to do, so I guess that's a legitimate purchase.

On another note, is it possible for you to look at a second subwoofer option? Because that's the single most significant upgrade you can add to your system instead of all these external amp addition.