Bro, thks for sahring. You upgraded from previous version to new FL? I watch few taiwan youtube reviews said its suspension is further tweaked in new one.

PS: I still in 20 pages + in this thread to read as much info as possible..

You too tested new civic? Is Altis door solid like civic? Also how you think NVH between them?

Hope next week I got time to test the new Altis.

After see the numerous problem of Honda Civic, 2017 Altis might be a good buy, I am a Honda owner but their quality of interior and spare parts just below par. Space definitely altis will be better if you talk about comfortable, even tho front passenger seat I can't find my comfortable spot due to the leg room, I can't put my leg comfortable due to the deaign of the seating floor and im 178cm. This year altis 2017 you can really consider , if talk about previous gen straight other car. That's my two cents. With this range altis vs mazda 3 vs honda civic

1. Toyota Altis 2017 = Family car most important is comfortable of seat especially cabin. Safety feature is a plus. Finally toyota aware of it. But everyone only blame UMW, actually Taiwan is the same, their previous model same as Malaysia too. Maybe Toyota marketing startegy?

2. Honda Civic 2016 = Cabin seat leg room quite outstanding due to the design, but the middle of floor bump almost my one hand height, and the seat cushion I found it too soft, it will comfortable for short jouney but long journey definitely I can guarantee it would found comfortable. But thumbs up with how honda utilize interior just outstanding. I love their cable management tray. Open and close door feel like I need to apply WD-40 on it.. Just terribly bad feeling.

3. Mazda 3 = The look sporty kaw kaw, cabin leg room not enough. But got load confident of skyactive engine, just that malaysia service center not as much as honda and Toyota

If I'm single I will choose btw Honda and Mazda, Family then Altis. I actually compare this 3 cars before choose Altis. The door of Altis no worry, civic and altis door was solid enough. I also reading taiwan review cause I found out taiwan reviewer good in car knowledge. Well detail explained.

This post has been edited by L3nnon: Jan 10 2017, 04:05 PM

Thanks for sharing bro. Wow.. Appreciate!

I hope I can maximise my giving busget. Now looking into both B and C segments hope money well spent on a ideals car.

Toyota was totally out of my list due to its features and look. Only recent trip to Melbourne saw different designs and also saw few current Altis on the road changed my mind. The new facelift was a surprise to me because I never follow its news and it look very similar to what I saw in Melbourne.. so totally unaware of this FL. It seem just right to upgrade all the essential features now and I think new face looking really nice too..Plus leather seats and leg room. Very looking forward to see the actual car. I watched taiwan reviews too. I think you are right.

I got same feel like you on mazda regarding legroom. Civic is oool but the seat seriously too low. Fabric and its very ah beng (my wife's comments lol) hold me and not quite suit my old parent to drive too.

Sylphy was in my list too but 2014 unit not dare to take the risk and can't test drive... I like its look be frank.. Back and dashboard look very classy.

Looking forward to read more new FL users coming in to share their r views..

Can the center aircon vents (the clock there) can be fully closed? The roller close seem no available there...

I have to agree with your ah beng look on honda lol.. After i survey so much, end up i still go with Altis, bring my wife and kids along, they found Altis cabin and seat is the most comfortable and suitable for long distance travelling, and with almost flat floor design which i really into that. You might be can try hyundai or nissan range as well... I choose Toyota Altis because service center everywhere and a reliable car that cause less trouble for my families member. 2017 FL follow european design and i really like the look of it. Bro go test drive urself and share your thought as well.

The FL head and logo look more 'head up' to my eye. Nice! Hopefully this coming weekend I can test drive. Always run out of time.. 😆

My current car is 2008 altis 1.6. I just test drive the 1.8G FL altis. NVH much better and the suspension also feels more refine and solid. I floor the pedal to 3K RPM and the engine sounds not that noisy. I test drive with my father. He is happy with the cabin seat. More comfortable than our current Altis. The sport mode the salesman explain to me is a gimmick, it just tune the pedal to be more lighter so you can floor the pedal easier.

Finally tested the 1.8G. The interior quality to me is very classy. No photo can really tell this. The dashboard design is very smart to fllaten the top give the visual of huge car. Suspension is strady and quiet. Rear seats both leg and head is roomy. Very responsive throttle. Engine noise to me is low. Seat height is good. View is good too. Also I like the ecom display. Overall I like this new face. Quiet when drive at 100km/h. I like this car.

i'm still driving the pre-facelift model. tried the facelift model and can't perceive any difference in NVH between pre-facelift and facelift. suspension wise, feels tauter but then, hard to tell whether due to it's new since my Altis after 20+k Km the suspension start to feel soft.
dashboard i still prefer the civic. but in terms of refinement, i feel the Altis is still better. rear seats for sure the Altis is more comfortable and more thigh support and you can adjust the seat upright angle. Civic rear seats are too low and less thigh support. if you've family, Altis is the better choice

Sylphy trumps Altis in NVH but too bad, TCM failed in marketing this car. i'd have bought it if they've given better discount but lcly like that. not surprised they still have old stocks

didn't upgrade. still driving pre-facelift. test drove it. cornering may seem a bit better but then when i first drove my pre-facelift, i felt the handling was like so much better than the Camry XV41! lol. but one thing's for sure, the suspension of this current gen Altis is far better than previous gen Altis which feels choppy at low speed and doesn't seem to absorb bumps that well.

Btw, SA told me Altis is CBU from Thai. True?

Yes. The SA in Subang also told me is CBU from Thailand

Wow finally bro got time to test drive? Overall im very satisfied with this FL. Definitely suit for family ride? I travel long journey often. Noise and comfort for passenger is important. Overall good refinement car. Everything in the car doesnt feel cheap

Civic dashboard were the only thing that amaze me, but the door quality pull me very far away? At first i thought might be a unit issue.. So i go other branch to check again. Still the same, i dunno why they design like that as open and close door is the most basic thing when you ride the car? The feeling can be ruin the overall of the car. Yes i agree with Toyota refinement which is their advantage always.

what's the problem with the civic door? need strength to pull open?

Feel like need to apply WD-40 On it.. seriously difficulty to open it smoothly

if i remember correctly the door opening has two stop points. accord also like that. difficult to open. even previous accord also like that.

Anyone got knocking sound fixed?
Got this hard knocking sound when hitting sharp bump or bridge seams.
Not sure if this is normal because heard double sounds, like "thock thock", means front and rear also got sound?


And also I am due to get TSD to check transmission noise.
It is more louder now.