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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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post Nov 19 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 19 2014, 01:57 AM)
No doubt newer Proton cars are quite exciting with good looks and value for money specs.

My concern is that Iriz is very new with all new engine and gearbox technology too, it doesn't have a parts history so you don't have a track record of how reliable or performance it can give you. Secondly, no cheap spare parts at the moment since it is a new model -- everything direct from proton. So you're buying into untested technology and if things don't go right the car might have terrible RV if this model doesn't become successful (so far signs are good that it will be successful) it might become another Tiara.

So if the risks above are okay with you then go for the Iriz and be a pioneer  brows.gif

If not then up your budget abit and get a Nissan Almera/Toyota Vios/Honda City.....reliable with good RV.
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Thanks! Ordered an Iriz a week ago. Asked for a 2015 car.
Will be getting the car on the 10th of Jan. Choosen my number plate as well. smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2014, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 19 2014, 03:17 AM)

Wow! The Triton depreciated that badly?

If you can afford it I think better just buy a brand new Proton Saga or Perodua Myvi, getting a used one won't really save you any money. As it might only be about 10k cheaper than new but you're paying much higher interest rates because it is a used car.

For safety reasons I suggest a sedan like Saga/Preve/Persona than a Myvi.

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Wow, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
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post Nov 19 2014, 02:11 PM

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Sorry I can't be much more help as I'm not much of a SUV guy, very limited exposure and research on them, the best I can do is do the research online and give you my take on it without the marketing fluff. Although lately I've been gravitating towards an X1 drool.gif
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Lol..no worries. I'm happy with my prado. .Talking bout x1, personally I'll gravitate towards the new GLA
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post Nov 19 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(zXJaMeSXz @ Nov 19 2014, 09:12 AM)
Thanks! Ordered an Iriz a week ago. Asked for a 2015 car.
Will be getting the car on the 10th of Jan. Choosen my number plate as well.  smile.gif
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What color did you choose?
I think the Iriz is great, hopefully they will force Perodua to make better cars as Perodua has been quite stagnant and content with just producing outdated cars but focus on reliability and affordability so customers remain content.

QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Nov 19 2014, 10:22 AM)
Wow, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
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You ca refer to here for all the car loan information.

QUOTE(laith @ Nov 19 2014, 01:56 PM)
Yeah, as weekend car. TDCi rocks, though I will only consider if i manage to to source the spare parts in cheaper cost & a workshop who really understand this car in depth.
The Cooper S that i mentioned here is the year 2004 2005, which is running on a supercharger, but not newer version with the PRINCE engine.
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I can only recommend you then only (and probably best guy) for the job Ian Khong to maintain your TDCI. He is a Ford man true and true, got his own workshop but he has many business ventures so the workshop is for regulars and appointment only. Don't get the wrong idea, he isn't lansi that he doesn't accept walk-in customers, just that there is a shortage of manpower only 1 guy doing everything and he wants to maintain his QC thus lower volume.

QUOTE(Jonah Lomu @ Nov 19 2014, 02:11 PM)
Lol..no worries. I'm happy with my prado. .Talking bout x1, personally I'll gravitate towards the new GLA
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The X1 they are selling now is considered previous generation because it is a NA engine, probably clearing it so they can sell more of the updated X3 with turbo or making way for the new X1 with turbo brows.gif

GLA too expensive for me doh.gif

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Hi guys, i'm thinking of selling my 8 years old 2006 VIOS G spec with 210K mileage. I plan to get a smaller car, cause i already have another d segment car at my home.

Thinking of trading it at used car & take used car with much lesser mileage such as viva,myvi etc.

Looking at the market value i can get around 35k, but for a smaller used car such as viva or myvi it will cost around 19k to 25k depending on years and condition. Can the used car pay the extra money different say.. 10k different and swap with their car? is it possible? anybody have the experience?
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post Nov 20 2014, 10:51 PM

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Hi, need some advice.
I own a hyundai Atos 2005 1.1 Auto, its running smooth but gearbox shifting 1 to 2 a little bit rough, is 100,200 KM ady
overall no problem with it. The only thing I hate is legroom (I'm quite tall)

My mech offer me a Wira 1.8, pricing is around 10K, but details I still dunno yet, haven seen the car oso. But he said the owner is his fren, a mech oso and is still running good.

I dunno how much my Atos worth, saw it on Carlist is around 8.5-10K.
So, should I change to the 1.8 wira or just keep my Atos?
Hos is Wira 1.8 FC? will it be the same as Atos? (Atos is quite high FC 1L for 11 KM city driving)
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post Nov 21 2014, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(zaragon_ali @ Nov 20 2014, 03:55 PM)
Hi guys, i'm thinking of selling my 8 years old 2006 VIOS G spec with 210K mileage. I plan to get a smaller car, cause i already have another d segment car at my home.

Thinking of trading it at used car & take used car with much lesser mileage such as viva,myvi etc.

Looking at the market value i can get around 35k, but for a smaller used car such as viva or  myvi it will cost around 19k to 25k depending on years and condition. Can the used car pay the extra money different say.. 10k different and swap with their car? is it possible? anybody have the experience?
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normally i wouldn't trust used car dealers to give you money for such a trade.
they might agree and say yes but when giving the money that time either they're trustworthy and give it to you or u get scammed.

better to go proton/perodua buy the cheapest car, trade-in your car to them, get your car and cash from them.
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post Nov 21 2014, 03:53 AM

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New KIA Optima K5 2015

or ..

Mercedes Benz CLS350

or..

Mercedes Benz C200 AMG

My budget is around 140 K icon_question.gif
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post Nov 21 2014, 12:20 PM

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1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM 50-60k (rm1k p.m for 5 years loan if possible)
3. New/Used/Unreg : used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : sedan
8. Remarks : i'm looking for C- segment used. Will use as daily drive and long distance hometown trips

is't good idea to buy used car with 5 years loan with the intention to dispose the car after 3 years of usage?

Thanks for the suggestions

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post Nov 21 2014, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Nov 20 2014, 10:51 PM)
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Unless you really trust your mech I don't suggest you do a direct swap like that, chances are you get conned.
Atos is pretty terrible and the Wira 1.8 is a good car but I am afraid you get scammed.

QUOTE(ahquan26 @ Nov 21 2014, 03:53 AM)
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I can understand your headache a new top-spec Korean or a used Merc. For 140k budget you'll not be able to get a top-spec Honda/Toyota maybe a Nissan so the next best thing is Korean, right?

Althought the Kia Optima K5 or its sister Hyundai Sonata look great and are well appointed it lacks in a few areas:
1. Service center availability - in the klang valley they are well representated but elsewhere they aren't so this is also an issue if you're not living in a major city/town.
2. Resale value - as you know you Korean RV isn't that good but better nowadays but still can't compare to T&H so it is more a choice of getting low spec jap with better RV or high spec korean with worst RV
3. Performance - at same spec or better on paper these Korean engines somehow aren't as nippy as their Japanese counterparts.

The CLS is too expensive to maintain, did you notice the huge cc engine? Roadtax is a killer > RM6000

The used C200 is a good choice but why buy a used one at that price when you can get a recon?
2011 Merc CGI C180 @ RM145k is much more worth as it is comparably newer with new car interest rates.

QUOTE(Yamma @ Nov 21 2014, 12:20 PM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM 50-60k (rm1k p.m for 5 years loan if possible)
3. New/Used/Unreg : used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : sedan
8. Remarks : i'm looking for C- segment used. Will use as daily drive and long distance hometown trips

is't good idea to buy used car with 5 years loan with the intention to dispose the car after 3 years of usage?

Thanks for the suggestions
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You can do that if you have a high deposit else when you do the trade-in you have to top-up alot of money to clear the remaining loan balance.

I think since you got until RM60k you should aim for 2008/2009 Honda Civic 1.8, best in class nothing much else I need to elaborate. You want abit cheaper but looks more dull would be the Altis.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 21 2014, 07:21 PM)
Unless you really trust your mech I don't suggest you do a direct swap like that, chances are you get conned.
Atos is pretty terrible and the Wira 1.8 is a good car but I am afraid you get scammed.
Hi zenix, many thanks for your advise. I think I'll just keep my Atos if it's not giving any problems. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Nov 22 2014, 04:43 PM

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1. Brand: Any
2. Budget: <RM40k
3. Used
4. Specs: any
5. Transmission: Auto
6. NA or FI ? any
7. Type: Sedan / Pick up
8. Remarks: Typical usage to and from work, traffic jam mostly. Focused more on fuel efficiency and reliability.
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What is the used market price for nissan sylphy 2009.. I am planing to trade in my persona Manual 2009 to buy used nissan sylphy. Can you advise me on this in terms of pro's and con's wise.
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2. Budget : 50k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : any
8. Remarks : fc and for city drive klang valley girl driver lol
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QUOTE(g9000z @ Nov 22 2014, 10:53 AM)
Hi zenix, many thanks for your advise. I think I'll just keep my Atos if it's not giving any problems.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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usually i don't recommend people to swap one car with problems for another car which might have problems.
your atoz might not be the most fuel efficient car out there but at least that is just a fuel bill you can claim.
although wira parts are cheap to replace if there are too many things that might go wrong the list of bills and repairs will go much more than that extra tank of gas u need to pay every month.

probably a trade-in for a new myvi with better headroom and better fuel economy would be better. if you don't have intention to buy a new car yet and just itchy because of the fuel consumption then better not get a used car and save up for a better new car or used car in the 40k region.

QUOTE(Hapeng @ Nov 22 2014, 04:43 PM)
1. Brand: Any
2. Budget: <RM40k
3. Used
4. Specs: any
5. Transmission: Auto
6. NA or FI ? any
7. Type: Sedan / Pick up
8. Remarks: Typical usage to and from work, traffic jam mostly. Focused more on fuel efficiency and reliability.
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Latio would fit your needs, I've talked about it before.

QUOTE(nightcat @ Nov 22 2014, 05:50 PM)
What is the used market price for nissan sylphy 2009.. I am planing to trade in my persona Manual 2009 to buy used nissan sylphy. Can you advise me on this in terms of pro's and con's wise.
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you can expect the most 2009 sylphy's to be in the high 40k's region, i saw this one which is quite promising which is a 2011 Nissan Sylphy with Impul bodykit there are a few spec around but basically it is like this Impul spec = got bodykit, Premium/Luxury spec = leather seats, Navi/Luxury = got gps navigator and touch screen entertainment system.

it is a good car, not expensive to buy used, parts are cheap because they're all made locally as the suppliers and OEM's are all local whom supply to nissan which builds the cars here in malaysia. probably one of the cheapest 2000cc c-segment cars to maintain.

QUOTE(fryze @ Nov 23 2014, 08:59 PM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 50k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : any
8. Remarks : fc and for city drive klang valley girl driver lol
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well for that price it is mainly either going to be a proton/perodua or a heavily discounted korean or china auto....lets go through a few models.

Perodua Axia (this link is not to P2's official website but the layout is simple to read) - The SE and Advance model are the top range and buying either one would still put you about 10k below your budget. The focus on this model is simplicity and fuel economy, and it is a big jump in terms of safety from a Kancil/Viva you can see from the video below, but i still have my doubts but for highspeed impacts in highways but then again for mostly ity driving and always stuck in jam it helps keep your wallet fat. You can always choose a Myvi but for your budget you can only choose the 1300cc version the 1500cc versions are all above 50k. While Myvi is tried and true, and is very cheap to maintain.....the Axia being new will surely be an eye-catcher.



Proton Iriz (this link is not to P1's official website) - as you can see from the pricing scheme you can afford either the 1300cc standard or executive version, both version only differ on some aesthetics like bodykit and remote control that can open the tailgate, all the safety features are there so don't need to worry. The standard automatic while being just 5k more than the Axia I'd consider is a much better car because it has more safety features and is a bigger b-segment car (equivalent to a Myvi), being a new model and hot right now you might need to wait for your car and maintenance side we won't know if it is going to be cheap or not in the future to maintain but with such a great demand for this car it usually means alot of cars will be on the road thus normally parts will be cheap because there are many suppliers with varying price range seeking to sell to this large community of Iriz owners. If you want something safer in terms of maintenance and bigger because it has a boot then consider the Saga BLM.



Kia Picanto - starting price is 55k so unless you getting some year end discounts I don't really see this car fitting into your budget. Like most Korean cars sold here it comes with alot of value added features like push start button, 6 airbags, etc. but after watching the Asean NCAP video i'm not really convinced as the front pillar is bent on collision while the Iriz and Axia although the front doors are push out of its place the front pillar is untouched. hmm.gif



Hyundai i10 - starting price is 52k so it is cheaper than the Picanto but also looks more basic which is probably where the cost cutting was ....but i was wrong there is more cost cutting measures when it comes to safety which makes this car only passing 2 stars for ANCAP sweat.gif



GWM M4 - firstly, i couldn't find anything on ANCAP about this car so it is unrated and with the general china car reputation it probably isn't great, but the pro's would be you're getting for only 40k ++ a car which looks good and well equipped.....but still hasnt been launched yet so final prices and spec unknown for now.
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thanks bro ... didnt know about the i10 safety is lacking .. guess need to top up abit for myvi or axia ... cant wait for the Iriz

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Hi Guys.
looking for reccomendation and feedback
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : <70K
3. New/Used/Unreg : USED (not older than 2007)
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : Looking at 2012 Kia Sportage, 2009 Nissan X-Trail, 2007 Honda CRV. please do reccomend any other cars you have in mind as well.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2014, 04:28 AM)
usually i don't recommend people to swap one car with problems for another car which might have problems.
your atoz might not be the most fuel efficient car out there but at least that is just a fuel bill you can claim.
although wira parts are cheap to replace if there are too many things that might go wrong the list of bills and repairs will go much more than that extra tank of gas u need to pay every month.

probably a trade-in for a new myvi with better headroom and better fuel economy would be better. if you don't have intention to buy a new car yet and just itchy because of the fuel consumption then better not get a used car and save up for a better new car or used car in the 40k region.
Yeah, I can't agree less with you.
About Myvi, is the manual version is fun to drive? What I mean by fun is like the Honda manual which has nice gear shifting feel. Or should I just get the Auto?
Actually I prefer a manual car ever KL is so jammed.. hehe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 21 2014, 06:21 PM)

You can do that if you have a high deposit else when you do the trade-in you have to top-up alot of money to clear the remaining loan balance.

I think since you got until RM60k you should aim for 2008/2009 Honda Civic 1.8, best in class nothing much else I need to elaborate. You want abit cheaper but looks more dull would be the Altis.
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What about sylphy? 1k per month for 5 years is more or less enough to cover 50k++ loan right? After 3 years, is it safe to say that I can sell the car for 30k at least?
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QUOTE(nkdin_rulez @ Nov 24 2014, 08:25 AM)
Hi Guys.
looking for reccomendation and feedback
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : <70K
3. New/Used/Unreg : USED (not older than 2007)
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :  -
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : Looking at 2012 Kia Sportage, 2009 Nissan X-Trail, 2007 Honda CRV. please do reccomend any other cars you have in mind as well.

thanks
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you're looking for full size or compact SUV?

QUOTE(g9000z @ Nov 24 2014, 03:07 PM)
Yeah, I can't agree less with you.
About Myvi, is the manual version is fun to drive? What I mean by fun is like the Honda manual which has nice gear shifting feel. Or should I just get the Auto?
Actually I prefer a manual car ever KL is so jammed.. hehe  laugh.gif
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never driven a manual myvi.
sat in one, feels quite powerful for a 1.0 with only me and the driver but he was pushing it.
not too sure if it is as nippy if you're driving to save fuel.

manual cars nowadays is mostly either nissan/proton/perodua only are the choices nod.gif

QUOTE(Yamma @ Nov 24 2014, 03:08 PM)
What about sylphy? 1k per month for 5 years is more or less enough to cover 50k++ loan right? After 3 years, is it safe to say that I can sell the car for 30k at least?
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the thing about sylphy is the depreciation.
you can buy a 2010/2011 sylphyor a 2009/2010 civic now for 50k.....but the sylphy is going to depreciate faster so that isn't ideal if you're going to trade-up within 5 years.

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