Hi guys

Im planning to buy used peugeot 207 sedan year 2012,
The price is around 30k
Is it recommended?
Hows the car maintenance and stuff?

Thanks!!

Hi folks, appreciate any feedback. I'm going for a new car as opposed to used as I prefer knowing the amount of money I'll spend on the car (as opposed to incidentals which are part and parcel of getting a used car since no manufacturer warranty).

1. Brand. - Honda Accord 2.0 VTI-L / Mazda 6 2.0 / Mazda 3 2.0 CKD
2. Budget. - up to 160K
3. New
4. Specs. - As above
5. Transmission. - Automatic
6. NA or FI ? - no real preference
7. Type. - Sedan
8. Remarks. - Anything else like the 2 cars above I could consider?

Hi folks, appreciate any feedback. I'm going for a new car as opposed to used as I prefer knowing the amount of money I'll spend on the car (as opposed to incidentals which are part and parcel of getting a used car since no manufacturer warranty).

1. Brand. - Honda Accord 2.0 VTI-L / Mazda 6 2.0 / Mazda 3 2.0 CKD
2. Budget. - up to 160K
3. New
4. Specs. - As above
5. Transmission. - Automatic
6. NA or FI ? - no real preference
7. Type. - Sedan
8. Remarks. - Anything else like the 3 cars above I could consider?

This post has been edited by cryptchid: Jun 2 2015, 07:04 PM

Yes, Honda/Toyota in most parts of the world corner this market by having reliable cars which are cheap to maintain. They are quite exceptional, Mazda is under normal category, if you're unwilling to pay that extra for a better car then T&H is your goto brand.

Do reconsider to 7 years loan if you can afford it unless you're not planning to sell it before your loan is completed as 9 years loan is really bad unless your car RV is really good when you do the trade-in.

Do consider the Nissan Livina, it should be within your budget.
It will be more spacious than an Alza because an Alza is basically a stretched 7 seatbelt version of the Myvi, while the Livina is a stretched version of the Latio (which is a C-segment thus larger and more spacious). Both Livina/Alza will have the same issues of being slightly underpowered (unless you choose the 1800cc version of the Livina but I think you won't as it is out of your budget) but should be okay unless you usually drive a powerful car like Perdana/Camry/Accord.

Thanks

I think better go for the Mazda6, the Accord has the better RV now but I don't think this will consider to be the trend as the current Accord isn't all that better than the model it replaces thus RV won't be good because usually Honda have a skip cycle. They come out one model which is new earth shattering technology and design, everybody buys then RV good next model although say is all new is more of the total cosmetic change the underpinnings are the same as the old one so RV not bad but when the next model comes with something new and revolutionary the old one's RV will drop further.

Mazda6 looks better, spec better, doesn't look/feel cheap, and skyactiv is a better engine.

Kia Rio is a good car when talking about spec wise. Performance as long as you're not demanding it is okay as they're still slightly behind on engine technology as they aren't able to extract the same amount of power from the same cubic capacity than a Jap/Conti car. Since you're not going to sell until after 9 years you can consider Korean makes as by that time the RV for most cars are all at around the same level. But in terms of after sales service like service center availability and spare parts.....this is a hit/miss.....if you're in the Klang Valley it is not an issue but if you're more outskirt than say Bangi / Selayang / Banting (or even at these places) support is hard to come by.

Honda is a better car but you're never going to find one that is new for that price. Toyota too, I think Vios isn't worth the money and people are going to find out sooner or later.

VW Polo Sedan clear stock is around your budget I hear it is between 60-69k depending on how much the salesman wanna bite you. Anyway, if you do want to consider this, it is a good car. Not so complicated in terms of technology, thus more reliable. It is quite big and comfortable, but the caveat is sluggish performance overall, but for highway at constant speeds (less start stop city travel) then you'll enjoy the better conti type cabin.

A good A-segment within your budget would be either Miitsubishi Mirage/Attrage.....if you're not too demanding on engine performance it is good, fills most of your requirements.

Mazda3 skyactiv for the win.

I've been a long time supporter of Honda's, they've got good tech and design but their current generation for Civic and Accord are disappointing.
If you don't wanna wait and wanna buy something now then consider the Mazda3.
Current Altis/Sylphy are decent choices but unless they're really cheap I consider them a skip as they've cost cutting measures built-in like leaf spring/torsion beam rear suspension, rear drum brakes, etc. Good if you want a cheap maintenance car no matter what.....but for something overall I think Mazda3/Civic.

Stay away from older Ford, parts are a killer.

Civic, Camry, Accord, Corolla of the 90's should be within your budget, they are good, just make sure the condition is good.
See tips below.

Rotary Sifu

good stuff

I think a 1999 Honda Civic EK still looks good today, their designs are pretty good. Unlike Toyota Corolla SEG, really look uncle. So anyway back to the EK, while back in 1995-2005 this was a hot car for people to modify even the automatic ones. Look around for one which is driven by a lady and isn't modified and you should be okay.

Things to look out for...

1. flood/water damage - remove the carpets and see any odd discoloring of the floor panel carpet (usually ppl never remove).
2. stock rims = good sign
3. no modification = good sign
4. accident damage = see the fit and finish of the front and rear lighting

Inspira good choice.
Although now discontinued by Mitsubishi, since it was localized by Proton like Wira you need not worry on spare parts.

New car usually Vios/City always in stock.

I think Jazz wins overall in terms of versatility, RV, looks, fuel consumption and space.
The ultra seats allows that little car to carry alot of items, barring a 3 seater sofa i carried alot of stuff from Ikea in my Jazz before.
The new jazz has a better engine and gearbox thus really better fuel consumption quite close to Hybrid cars without being complicated.
Of course Jazz better RV, look out for raya promo's for this car.

Suprima overall package is good but RV and after sales service I have doubts.

Please choose either the City or Vios, they're much more better built, so they're more comfortable to drive in the highways and have decent power output, plus if the worst happens the survival rate is higher iinm.

My friend whom was working at an outskirts town often travel back to KL every Friday and back to the "kampung" on Sunday....once she ended up in a bad accident....car was total lost but she survive with only light scratches....she was driving a 2010 Vios....so better pick a better car especially when highway speeds come into the equation but if you're mostly just in the city or drive from home to office less than 5km daily then a kancil or something like that is okay.

I feel a Wira/Satria is a good starting point.
The car doesn't have the best safety features but alot better than a Kancil/Kelisa/Kenari/etc.
Parts are cheap and available everywhere.
On a pinch you can try DIY fixes to your car if you really duck up u can always bring it to the workshop and it won't be an expensive repair.
Many car clubs for it exist this community is still large and vibrant.

You can learn all the basics of car ownership from it, and if anything happens it isn't an expensive fix.

I think this is a good one but can be ugly but it is spacious and well equipped, as good as an Alphard imho. Cheap to maintain as the drivetrain is pulled from the Sylphy & Teana.

Yes, but I recommend try your best to get the latest model version.
The model before this isn't as frugal as the new one.
Alot of complains on the fuel consumption.

2011 BMW E92 - if you looking for something as new as possible then this would be something to consider also unlike older coupes it is it's own model class e92 not e90 coupe so better chasis not a chopped sedan.

e30/e45 coupe's are do-able but I feel for their age might be abit problematic.

hi bro, i explained this in a post few pages back

1. Brand : any except local car
2. Budget : around 90k below
3. New/Used/Unreg : new
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI :  -
7. Type : sedan
8. Remarks : suitable for short driver and low maintenance cost

Mazda 2 (Sedan)
Honda City
Toyota Vios
Nissan Almera

Considering the design...i will go for mazda 2, but in long run i prefer City due to moderate maintenance cost

There is no limit.
Base on your income.
Bank calculation if after deducting your other car/housing loan you have rm300 left (they don't care if you need to eat or not) they will approve the loan only for rm300 not a cent more.

I highly don't recommend it.
Might be newer but there is a reason why it is so cheap.
You can also find Skoda's and Ford's which are relatively new at this price range.
Yes, their RV is bad but bad RV is because of market forces......so what market forces drive customers away from these cars?

Maintenance is pretty expensive and daunting for the uninitiated. Yes, you can drive to any workshop or authorized service center to fix it -- whether it is fixed properly or not normally the charges would be higher than an equivalent Japanese car.

For around that budget you can look around for 2007-2009 Honda City or Toyota Vios.

Mazda 6 Skyactiv would be my pick. It has a great engine which gives diesel like fuel economy. I also feel it is better equipped than it's rivals (Camry/Accord) I feel that Mazda 6 gives you a conti like feel but you still enjoy the reliability and cheap maintenance of a Jap.

In terms of part prices Mazda nowadays are getting cheaper plus you get free maintenance for 3 years and warranty for 5 years (iinm) so in general you don't need to worry about part prices unless you keeping it for the long term and if Mazda continues it's progress in the market it will be as good as Suzuki/Mitsubishi is now after they had huge success with their top product, prices of parts went down and service centers more available at more places. I think they wouldn't be able to displace Honda/Toyota/Nissan anytime soon as those brands are very well entrenched in Malaysia but Mazda would become a viable option as Suzuki/Mitsunishi have become.

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Mazda 2 Skyactiv would be my pick. It has a great engine which gives diesel like fuel economy. In terms of part prices Mazda nowadays are getting cheaper plus you get free maintenance for 3 years and warranty for 5 years (iinm) so in general you don't need to worry about part prices unless you keeping it for the long term and if Mazda continues it's progress in the market it will be as good as Suzuki/Mitsubishi is now after they had huge success with their top product, prices of parts went down and service centers more available at more places. I think they wouldn't be able to displace Honda/Toyota/Nissan anytime soon as those brands are very well entrenched in Malaysia but Mazda would become a viable option as Suzuki/Mitsunishi have become.

Straight off the bat if your concern isn't to buy the cheapest and biggest car then you should skip Almera, it is the one with the cheapest sticker price but there are a few drawbacks such as lacking in performance and being ugly like a pregnant fish with that stretched rear and huge ass, yes it is functional but the designers should have done something better -- talking about design it is all over the place the front grille is huge like those you'd expect on big American cars like Lincoln but in a small car it just doesn't fit.

The City is in the same vein as Almera being stretched to expand legroom for the rear passengers, however with Honda's slick design it doesn't look so weird. Although it packs better technology than Vios and Almera the engine was more or less ported from the previous model and the CVT was already around in the 2003 model but they skipped it for the 2009 model because customers think CVT aren't reliable. Most cars nowadays utilize CVT's to help with fuel consumption because CVT is able to "create" an infinite number of gear ratio's to forever match to the engine speed......i've driven CVT's in Nissan's, Mitsubishi's, etc. but I felt the best implementation for a under 100k car is from Honda.

You can't really go wrong with a Vios, second cheapest to buy after Almera, doesn't have hightech internals so cheap to maintain, non-stretched so less legroom for rear passengers.....but still RV king.

Couldn't agree more!

Only slight disagreement, I will not go for Vios considering the safety feature is not on par with City & Mazda 2.

Come on....is 80k++ car which doesn't equip with Electronic Stable Control? Seriously?!?!

think of the vios as the sedan version of the myvi.
the same chassis, gearbox and engine has been used since the first generation.
every "new" model is just a "re-skin" of the same car.
like taking out a C2D from the casing and installing it into a new casing and calling it "new"

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 10k-15k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used.
4. Transmission: Auto

I'm a uni student, looking to buy a car that'll hopefully last a few years as I'll be going to work in a year or so. As I'm a uni student, I hope sifus can recco a car that has relatively good FC while not being a total slouch in the reliability and speed department as I commute from KL to Subang daily.

I've also looked around on carlist.my and need some opinions on some cars :
Peugeot 206 (2009) , Honda Civic (2001), Nissan Sentra (2001)

Thanks!

Civic 2001 - if you're talking about the EK then it is worthwhile considering but avoid the ES, the EK is quite old thus mileage for all would be above 100k, do check if any overhaul was done to the engine, this was a riceboy favorite so only pick the ones that are in stock condition for reliability sake.

Peugeot avoid at all cost.

Sentra unless you getting the manual version, I'd not recommend it as it isn't fuel efficient. Apart from that it is quite cheap to maintain and safety wise not bad. Alot better than most you'll see in this price gap except conti's but those are expensive to maintain.

1. Brand : Nissan Almera / Honda / Toyota
2. Budget : 70k below
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Transmission : Auto

Considering between City / Almera / Vios. Googled about this three cars but still have some questions.

- Services maintenance cost of three cars
- Spare part cost (especially front and rear headlight)
- Stability
- Pick up speed

Mostly use for work, just sometimes went out for meet friends / Customers

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 52k and below
3. New/Used/Unreg : Any
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : Mileage below 55,000km , no major accident, Prefer sedan
9. Year : 2011 or newer


Plan to drive this car around 7 yrs. My main concern is reliability. I don't want any breakdowns or spending time at the mechanic as I also don't know much about cars so I would prefer a very reliable car. Would you suggest something brand new like Saga flx?

Second concern is good fuel consumption.

Basically will use this car for daily driving approx. 40km per day and would prefer the car can carry all 4 to 5 passengers comfortably particularly at the back. C-segment?

How about used Preve CFE or Sylphy? I don’t mind using a used Preve or Inspira too. What would be your recommendation? I don’t mind any model. The car can’t be too old as I’m really do not have the time to go to the workshop. Easy maintenance and reliability is a pre-requisite

Btw the looks of the car is important too, pls dont recommend Latio or Almera as looks aspect is an important point too ;->

Thanks in advance

This post has been edited by slayer98: Jun 6 2015, 09:58 PM

Thanks for the explanation! But besides these cars, what else would you recommend in the 10-15k category?

Hi guys, any recommendations?

Secondhand Honda Accord 2008 2.0 vti
Brand New Honda City 1.5 V-Spec
Brand New Kia Cerato 1.6 K3

Budget around 70-90k. Is secondhand accord reliable?

Hi guys, VW Polo Sedan Raya promotion discount RM23k giving rise to a net selling price RM68k, worth it to consider and buy?

Hi,

Is it recommended to buy showroom car?

I was quoted RM50k for a showroom unit Preve, but what worried me is the mileage is quite high for a showroom car, which is 17000km.

Any opinion?