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post Feb 20 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 20 2014, 12:42 AM)
what do you mean? the housing size is not related to the cooling capacity. you have a blower for ventilation dont you? you just apply physics or why do you think outdoor compressor size has shrunk over the years? magic?
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What I meant is people like to see big stuffs=better.
But what more important is the surface area. It does matters.
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post Feb 20 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 20 2014, 11:41 AM)
now i get you. yes correct. its only about more surface area and ventilating them. how small you pack it is up to the manufacturer.
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That's why I choose Panasonic over York, compressor smaller and more quiet than York(same HP).

QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 20 2014, 11:42 AM)
true for all inverters besides daikin. they dont use R22 but a newer gas, which is under higher pressure. you your pipe must be thicker.
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Using the true inverter gas require thicker copper tubing. Maintenance fee also double than non inverter.

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post Feb 20 2014, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 20 2014, 02:17 PM)
Some are similar size, just the compressor are difference, and different blower speed. How can you tell it have a shorter lifespan? just like a Mitsu engine, 4g9x block, internal is different but engine dimension are the same, and sharing many common parts. It doesn't mean is not reliable. Is about cost effective in mass production.
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For him, only ME and York are good, others are no good. Even with the fact that other brands are much more efficient than York or ME.
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post Feb 20 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(hz428 @ Feb 20 2014, 02:48 PM)
if i want to purchase this model what is the pipe size needed? (thickness and inner diameter)
Mitsubishi MSY-GJ13VA
http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ircond/inverter
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The installer will know the best.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 21 2014, 10:49 AM)
Ah, what every and how is writen, he will just say "You statement in paper like". Ignorance is a bliss

Just pity the other who take his work and statement. Who know, maybe the entire Malaysia Panasonic and non-intverter sales will be affected and soon the A/C department will be closed.
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Nope, you are wrong already, what the moderator says he will ignore and try to use other replies to cover up(or better term is he will spam till next page ASAP).
Anyway, just a fair comparison for inverter or non inverter, the total usage in a day that decide which is the best. If you are using longer hours(8-10 hours), go with inverter type, else just stick with non-inverter. For my case, I still choose non-inverter as my total hours are 2-4 hours only,considering the installation, service fee and most important part, when I can come back with the extra cost incurred.
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post Feb 21 2014, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Feb 21 2014, 08:06 PM)
Does it require any special cooper piping and wiring point if i opt to use inverter model?
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Just follow what the air cond said will be good enough already.
Also, for safety reason, better lay a direct cable from DB to the air cond point.
Unless you know the original wire can support true 13A all time.
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post Feb 22 2014, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 22 2014, 12:30 AM)
Kimsim,

mind to draw out where is the cable connect to where?

inverter using 8 wire? so many
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Any air cond only using 3 main wires, live, ground, neutral. This is standard for AC.
If someone is talking about 8 wires or 10 wires, that's bullsheet only. The indoor unit unit needs power to run its blower, the outdoor unit needs power to run its cooling fan. Other wires are merely signal wires for both of them to communicating to each other.
If you are not sure, don't simply DIY, very risky.
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post Feb 23 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 23 2014, 08:39 AM)
so cheapest place to buy is from houzdepot sogo. saw a promotion rm799 until 27feb. but i wonder include installation or not
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When it is selling cheaper than normal, most of the time installation are not included.
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post Feb 25 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 25 2014, 04:46 PM)
like that, meaning those features are just gimmick or got some use?
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In some sense yes.
Those plasma filter you need to change them every year. Not just install and can use till failed.
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post Feb 25 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 25 2014, 06:26 PM)
oh i see, it will indicate to tell u to replace filter?
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Nope.
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post Mar 16 2014, 09:20 AM

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The most basic will have lowest maintenance, spare part cost.
Panasonic every state sure have a service/part center.
Depending how long you will use the air cond, if for long hours, go for inverter, else stick to the basic will do.
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post Mar 16 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(gnush85 @ Mar 16 2014, 10:10 AM)
Doesn't matter on the budget... daikin inverter 2.5 from the specs doesn't look good...
So the living room recommend use 2.5 and master bedroom 1.5? Hitachi I heard the services is bad in kuching...between the hitachi also easy to clean it ourself? For panasonic...the cooling power less than hitachi, ME and daikin?
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Cooling efficiency are very dependent to the room condition, like day time absorb all the sunshine, built using sand brick, poor ventilation will take longer time to cool down.
Since you are staying in Kuching, why not survey which is the nearest service/part center ?
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post Mar 16 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(gnush85 @ Mar 16 2014, 01:08 PM)
I have tinted all the glass window or door..now not much heat from sunlight. .the only thing is the ventilation yet to be improve...in kuching..ME , Hitachi and daikin all have only 1 services centre. ..not sure about Panasonic
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Is not just the windows, the wall also plays a part. Since you already have all the service centers, just choose the cheapest will do.
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post Mar 25 2014, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(storm04 @ Mar 25 2014, 01:20 AM)
350sqft = 32.5sqm
this for living+dining
this i got so many conflicting theories from frens.
1x2hp (strong nuff and better than 1.5 cos no need work so hard to keep cool)
1x1.5hp (enough lo. ur hse so small...)
2x1hp ( for the cost of 2x1hp which almost equal to 1x2hp, and both work in moderate cos cooling faster n more consistent. n if u wanna cool down in certain part of the area for 2-3 hrs, on 1 only...)

so i guess i post here for your feedback. d more the merrier, eh, they said?

130sqft = 12sqm
this for bedroom. i guess this 1hp enough?

tks!!
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Size are 1 factor, but the main factor is the room condition(facing north, south, east, west), brick used, roof ventilation , height of the room and furniture inside.
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:24 AM

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Room facing direction, facing east means evening won't have any sunlight, so lesser time to cool down. Facing North or South, depending on time, like first half year North will get the most sunlight from morning till evening(indirect), second half will be south. West no need to say, evening direct sunlight. So the air cond running time will change.
Brick used, red bricks are better than sand brick on heat rejection.
Roof ventilation, roof are the hottest part in a house, so if you can cool down the roof, your air cond no need to run so long.
Height will also affect the room, usually higher are better.
Furniture if got more it will reduce the room size.
All of them are inter related.
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post Mar 31 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(mnibar @ Mar 31 2014, 09:58 AM)
Just installed Mitsubishi Mr Slim  1hp MS-GH10VC non-inverter. Cost me RM1100 with installation. So far so good  biggrin.gif
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Looks like reputable brand's 1HP still need rm1000-1200 all in whistling.gif
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post Apr 13 2014, 03:10 PM

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My house majority of big appliances are from Panasonic. 8 years and counting on waiting it to fails.
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post Apr 13 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ Apr 13 2014, 03:29 PM)
Talking about failure, Panasonic has only 5 years warranty and one-time-claim for inverter. As for Samsung, it carries 10 years warranty with unlimited inverter claim.

Does air conditioner inverter always break down? Or Samsung is afraid of their newly design inverter will fail frequently?  doh.gif
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I never trust marketing gimmick. Using the most basic equipment that will gives you less problems.
Some like to spend extra just to "save" some electric bill. QUite stupid I would say.
Regardless of 5 or 10 years, it fails mean you got nothing to use. At that time, buy another for stand by?
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post Apr 13 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ Apr 13 2014, 03:52 PM)
That make sense too, I am just too easily into advertisement and showcase. I used to plan to have Panasonic when time arrive but yesterday visited the store and they introduced me the new Samsung air conditioner, then I become confused.  blush.gif
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Is up to you. I'm a Panasonic fan boy so I'll go for Panasonic. But then my basic Panasonic already serving me for 8 years and still good.
To keep electric bill low, use lesser air cond.
I've seen people using air cond for long hours and have health problems, like skin dry.
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post Apr 13 2014, 10:05 PM

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Went to SenQ looking for thermos and blender. Spend some time on looking at Panasonic's 1HP air cond, inverter and non inverter. Price difference are rm500.

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