contemplating to use all conventional as many complain ionizer or inverter type a lot of sensor problem.

but i saw here some do not have problem.......

anyone can clarify?

so many people told me this!!!!
my mum already say....york cooling king. lol i pitam when she sang the advertisement song.

old and trusted brand i supposed.

any york hater here. i wanna collect more opinions.

Anywhere wanna more faster to cooling down and look for bigger outside size of unit.

The rest after install then u has realise what I saying

Definitely National is good brand and also the parts with compressor all made from Japan and rebadge in m'sia only.
Nowadays Panasonic all parts from china already.

Don't be too sensitive.

You got money why not choose for others brand.

I'm not said Panasonic not as good.

For example like Panasonic inverter is good also.

Oops let you too sad..

I'm apologised from what I saying before here.

Cause still in CNY no point to arguement

You want good ah go for Media or Gree to instead panasonic bro.

Also depend how much do you able to pay for..

Sure or not? Where you get this info, or its just speculation?  What i know, acson is under york. Never heard york is under daikin.

N what the problem with low budget? High budget doesn't necessary means its good. Take example proton n toyota. Did expensive proton have greater quality than a cheap toyota? No right?

I own toyota vios. N i notice a great quality difference compared to my old wira. No rattling noise or what so ever. Runs great even its Already 5 years old.

I beg to differ. i prefer a reputable brand. Why need service center if you unit doesnt need a repair. Even if the service centre is just close by, going there every now and then due to quality issue is tedios n wasting time 

i dont think panasonic aircond pricey...

i got quoted for Daikin 1HP Inverter RM1500 with installation
for York Inverter RM1450 with installation..
guess what without inverter i can get RM980 for York... >.<

i still try to search better price

well,i just installed daikin 1.5HP for 1800...maybe you double check your room size then only decide to take 1HP or 1.5HP.
york non invertor rm980 for which model?basic model?or with the i-plasma model?
because price would be basic model --> iplasma --> inverter.
inverter will be the most expensive,while basic model will be the cheapest.

I think the price different is about RM500 for inverter and non-inverter. If you use it properly, you should be able to recoup back in 12 months in terms of reduced electricity bills.

Bedroom night time use every night.

How come you didn't know an average person sleep for about 7 or 8 hours? Do you need me to tell you what pajamas to wear and what pillow to use?

He he you really kena wash by some salesman before.

Since I'm the inverter user here, no matter we said inverter really energy saving.
Even duration for 2 to 3 hours and compare to non inverter really big gap here.

From my bill I can see from non inverter vs inverter really cut down 60% of my monthly bill.

i can confirm kimsim's statement. inverter will almost straight away produce savings of approx. 50% of electricity IF you dont underdimension the A/C (i.e. if the inverter doesnt run under full load), start/stop is not the main point btw.

You can savely assume that you will cut down electricity for A/C by 50% no matter the duration you on it for.

Given the tariff etc. you can quickly calculate how much you safe. Even if you plan to on just 3 hrs. per day, you safe  approx. 25 sen for 1 HP per day. I.e. annually you safe approx. 100 RM. Inverter aircon life is longer than normal aircon, you can assume 10 yrs easily. So price difference 500 RM - simple payback for 3 hrs usage: 5 yrs, simple savings in your pocket: 500 RM on top.

for 1 1/2 hours you still break even during the normal lifespan of the AC and you do good for the environment. If you never on the aircon, no need to buy also right. So I dont think you will use less than 1 1/2 hours in real life.

Normal usage is probably more like 6 hrs average, so simple payback is 2 1/2 yrs. so of course you should take inverter. Only ppl with too much money to waste wont buy an inverter. I am not that rich, so i buy inverter & safe.

For 24/7 your savings lets you break even after approx. 7 1/2 months. So the more you use, the more you profit from inverter. However for any usage (other than using it like display and never ever on!) you will safe with inverter in the long run.

agree as well, i also dont believe after you installed an air cond u will use 1 hour or less... in my opinion ,
once you installed the air cond, u will use it for sure even though you said " i will use only 2 hour / day " or something like that,
until the air cond installed, by not realize it you will switch it on once you feel the heat , by the time goes on the habit of get comfortable in cold room
u will switch it on every day u at home... haha.. thus getting an inverter will be good..

=)
my 2 cent... hehe

Do you mean if you do not use an aircon that is too small (HP wise) for the room size?

I'm using something like this.. wonder if its accurate for our Malaysia weather?

http://www.energystar.gov/?c=roomac.pr_properly_sized

anyone have info about the PCB board, is that all brand York , Daikin , Mitsubishi and etc all PCB board located at the Compressor Unit (Outdoor Unit) ?

and this is another factor of im still considering to buy Inverter or not... T_T

How much saving of inverter depended a lot of factor, there is no magical number, you use inverter, means you can automatically get 30% saving in electricity bill, 50%, or 10% whatever number.

Inverter just to replace the start-stop-start cycle of non-inverter, by using variable speed of its motor.

If one set the temp too low, like 18C, whereby inverter need to run full load most of the time aka full speed, the saving won't be much, or your room is not insulated good enough, plenty of heat loss factor around, aka inverter motor always need to run at higher speed to cool down the room, then the saving also won't be much.

That's why no manufacturers dare to use an accurate figure how much saving inverter can have compared to non-inverter, but just stated x% saving with typical use with *mark on it, as it depends on how the usage condition.

Assuming you have a adequately sized air cond in a room for the night. 8 hours running. 25C

FULL LOAD OR F
PARTIAL LOAD OR P

With non-inverter, during the entire night, a non-inverter will work like this: F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F-P-F
The continuous switching from F to P to F to P etc is similar to driving a car in city with plenty of Stop-Start-Stop-Start, using more fuel. The stopping and re-starting is that "thump" you hear in the night from the non-inverter air cond and which you will never hear from Inverter.
With Inverter, it will work this way: F-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P.
After less than 1 hour, it is always running in Partial Load for the rest of the night. This is similar to a car that never have to fully stop, just run smoothly and continuously. This car DEFINITELY give far better mpg.

Hi all,

I'm looking for an air cond for my bedroom.

Since I'm staying at flat, few thing need to be done:
1) no electric point for air cond. Do inverter need different type of electric point?
2) not using sliding windows, installer need to cut the windows steel bar.
3) no balcony to put the compressor (outside wall 9th floor above ground).

As the compressor going to be near my bedroom windows, I'm looking for quiet compressor (Mitsubishi is my option right now).

I have been offer RM1599 for MSY-GJ10VA complete with standard installation (10 feet cobbler hose, 10 feet wiring to electric point). Is the price reasonable?

Can anybody suggest good installer and estimated cost for above activity?

Thanks.

thanks for the feed back now i know what i need haha...

oh ya normally the shop quoted the price with installation c/w 10m copper pipe...

but not included the insulation is that norm way ?

and the power point is not included as well as the wiring from the compressor to power switch

what is the normally installing an air cond included?
1) installing compressor and blower
2) the copper pipe joining from compressor to blower with insulation
3) outlet pvc pipe ( water dripping from blower )
4) power cable from compressor to nearest power point/ power socket included the surface mount casing
5) switcher to on and off the air cond
am i right the standard procedure normally the aircond man will do above?

only things would be extra charges is

1)concealed the copper pipe
2)concealed the power cable
am i correct?