I really prefer the inverter as my home suffer from air conditioner usage due to second storey is suffering from the heat, open windows with fan running will still the same.

Look like I will go for Panasonic after consulting you guys and my brother-in-law.

By the way, is SenQ good for you guys? I have PlusOne membership there and plan to purchase air conditioner and 3D LED TV from them.

All those added feature is just marketing gimmick. if it really can do what it claims, then all those ppl that uses those model will never get sick anymore.

is panasonic ionizer air-cond good?

im aiming for 1.5hp, any review / recommendation for this brand/model?

Dear all,

My kitchen is 17 x 19 feet and tiled to the ceiling. I wanted to install a ceiling fan but my other half insisted on installing an air con in the kitchen and a large standing fan. I feel it's not practical. What's your opinion?
Thanks...

He said 1 tank of the gas R410a already RM580, can be used twice only.

Am scouting for new sets of aircond (1HP x 1, 1.5HP x 1 for Master Room and 2HP x 1 for Living Room) for my 2nd house which is going to be for my parents use.

Am a loyal Panasonic aircond supporter lol. Just even got myself 2 display sets from Courts for total price of RM1.3k. One is a 1HP Eco Navi and another is basic 1HP. Going to install it at my current house.

Been to few big shops (HLK, OnKing, Seng Heng & Courts) to compare prices. Seems that most of the sales man recommended me Hitachi. Price also quite cheap compared to the rest of the brands.

Now i have narrowed down my choices to this 4 brands. Price wise both Sharp and Hitachi quite cheap for it's IONIZER model. Performance wise i need your input.

1. Hitachi
2. Sharp
3. Panasonic
4. Mitsubishi

The Sharp plasma cluster equipped aircond are really good. I use an inverter model in my kids room and set it to 28 on most days with 1 speed ceiling fan. 27 on hotter and 26 if hotter still but with ceiling insulation that's not necessary. Sleep mode is a feature I would like to see as the early mornings are already cold at 26 or 24 degrees depending on season. Basically it's on to keep humidity low. Too cold would be too dry. 28-27 is ok for little children esp infants. Any lower is asking for trouble as that would induce lungs to dry faster and cause them to get asthma.

The conclusion of the matter is that humidity is the main problem here - too much or too high of it heat cannot dissipate very well be it man, animal or machine. Some weather sites like Accuweather describe it as RealFeel - ground ambient could be X but with Y humidity it feels like Z. So aircon still has its uses to cool and dehumidify. The art is in adjusting it not too cold and too dry as how many of us abuse it esp without knowing the ramifications for children. For that 28 deg and 1 speed ceiling fan is more than adequate even for an infant in fleece blanket. Since they don't sleep outside where it's much colder and would risk exposure to the elements and mosquito but their rooms bake throughout the night until 3-4AM, AC does the job nicely.

Older houses needed to be considered in the context of what are the surroundings. Does the occupant grow trees or have a garden? That slows the heat accumulated compared to bare concrete or totally non-gardened dwellings. But it would be folly to think that the physics of heat mass would act differently from clime to clime in relation with humidity. Brick does very well in hot day and very cold nights in a low to mildly humid clime. The heat retained is re-radiated to the benefit of the occupants in the night. But simply not here where humidity is high. It can't dissipate effectively enough until after 3am. Anytime between that an AC helps dehumidify and extract the oven like heat.

Cross-ventilation has its purposes and is good practice to use in this climate. Your description of how it works actually only works with wind and possibly louvered windows (best air inflitration performance from any wind direction) if the air inside the house is cooler. I use that with extractor fans, turbine ventilators. I used it to its maximum advantage during rainy season but not when it's blistering hot - that's where the urban heat island effect phenomena comes into play. But all's not lost since the best time to use it is early in the morning like 4-5am when they are timed to turn on until 7am - brings the cool in and it stays cool until 2PM.

Also, placement of rooms in relation to surroundings should decide if the occupant wants to breathe clean forest refreshed air or street air. I heartily agree with your assessment if their room faces green lungs like FRIM, etc. Unfortunately for my kids, the latter is their situation so it's case by case. For such a Medklinn and a Sharp Plasmacluster (inverter) helps in this situation.

Today while i was shopping around for appliances, i found the shop seller start pushing Hitachi & Mitsubishi instead of Panasonic for both inverter / normal. (as they claim Panasonic no cold enuf - low in btu etc)

For the basic normal unit, they are all suggesting either midea or haier for me.

How is your guy comments?
I have conceal those piping means for Panasonic inverter setup.

2-3 hours to cool down the room?

I think the time taken is too long or perhaps your aircond is under power.

dont ever buy the Panasonic non inverter. Inverter maybe other forumer may provide you feedback.

Sudah lah.. Panasonic older model still under masushita.
Now under panasonic malaysia.

QC wise for local used only, if exported model totally different.

I am using panasonic inverter:
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-.../cs-s13pkh.html

http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-.../cs-s24pkh.html

Start giving me "tak tak tak" sounds after 7 months using it even the swing i fix it static and no move (looks like the sound doesn't come from the swing).
anyone with this model got this problem?

end users won't know the cause of it unless they work in this industry. For that a very good and honest AC installer expert diagnosis is required.

thanks for the explanation!for the long run it is way better to opt for inverter?i'm planning to install 2x1.0hp n 1x2.0hp of ME. Any recommended models?

thanks alot bro kimsim!u sure help me alot  
unlike those sales person always recommend to put the highest hp u can afford.

my intention is just to cool down the area and make it comfortable.not to make it freezing cold.ya,agree there is no wrong on this.but there should be a best solution.

renovation is in progress.just minor.PC,KC,grill etc. Just slight problem,if to install 2 units,i need to pull another cable and it will cost me arnd 300.

bcos they need to hack back the concrete and pull the wire quite far.