also depends on the the electric ler. not everyone has/ intend to change to 3 phase.

No I was mean the outdoor size of cut cost design for smaller size and reduce lesses alumn coil. That is why not cooling as fast.

I think York still offering bigger size than Panasonic 1hp

I still prefer National if possible, but sadly, changed name already, haha.

Mine are Panasonic 2HP while my neighbour York 2HP. No doubt it does have a bigger outdoor unit, but I always turn off faster than his. Not to mention the noise generated by his outdoor unit.

Definitely National is good brand and also the parts with compressor all made from Japan and rebadge in m'sia only.
Nowadays Panasonic all parts from china already.

Then it is no good and York better? I just need to you to say : made in China stuffs are not good, don't buy from them.
But each time you chicken out and ask me to go round the garden.
Stop generalizing as I repeatedly said.

Don't be too sensitive.

You got money why not choose for others brand.

I'm not said Panasonic not as good.

For example like Panasonic inverter is good also.

As said, don't be a chicken and ask others to go round the garden.
First statement say a brand is no good as it is made in China, when people ask why, you say nothing. This is not sensitive as you said. I need clarification. But till now you can't clarify.

Oops let you too sad..

I'm apologised from what I saying before here.

Cause still in CNY no point to arguement

Is this called argument? I doubt so. You said made in China stuffs no good? Fact and figures where? And you are a chinese? Come on man, don't be a racist *******.
But this world less you 1 will not be less, since you don't come out such no ground statement, more will do also.

You want good ah go for Media or Gree to instead panasonic bro.

Also depend how much do you able to pay for..

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 10 2014, 02:48 PM

As said, don't be a chicken, show us the fact and figures on made in China stuffs are bad. Don't come out some irrelevant reply.

as we speak, i m looking at chandelier lights on toabao.


"god made human, and everythings else made in china"

quoted someone

Lol.. Why so serious.

Made in china still have good one and just depend how much quality as what you pay for it.

Now is what generation, do you think we paying lower price and still getting in top quality like god made?

Wake up bro..in future lagi worst quality again.

Due to china currency has much storonger than malaysia riggit.

If you wanna buy just go ahead, I'm no comment.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 10 2014, 03:11 PM

thanks for sharing
the 2.5HP is used in your living room?
the shop quoted me 2.5HP inverter for 3.3k, how much you get yours?
i gonna take 2.5HP R22 type for living room due to short usage duration and the outdoor unit size was more or less the same with 2.0HP

anyway, i presume ME aircon are made in thailand?

Hi, mine is inverter type R410a believe me go for inverter unit.
Now 3.5 years already and price without install for Rm2900.

Yes nowadays ME are made in Thailand with top quality control, even SG also imported the same specs.

If you really short duration can be consider for 2hp inverter unit.

Don't waste money to pay more for TNB bill.
Buy new and install for one short only, and pain for every months to pay as higher bill for non inverter unit.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 10 2014, 07:33 PM

Below here has 2 comparison with non inverter vs inverter unit.

For inverter unit


Non inverter unit

2HP with 2 fan (plan to add one more fan later on) should be sufficient i guess
living room aircon will be turned on when having guests come over (5 hours+- max), and maybe 2-4 hours on really hot evening
i plan to use fan only whenever possible


so on average, how much is your monthly bill? and how many units of electric you used on average?

Above here has 2 specs.

Non inverter BTU 1.8k and power input watt = 2030w per hour without part load.

Inverter BTU 1.8k and power input watt = 1630w when reaching the set point to be keep as port loan at 480w only and maintenance until next morning.

I have 3 x 1hp & 2.5hp all inverter.
Usually for everyday operate on 1hp x 2 for around 8 hours at lease and 2.5hp from morning 10am till nighttime around 11-12am then stop.

I have inverter frigerator also and sometime using dryer when raining season.

My bill is around Rm300++ or below Rm300, cause using inverter min. Required set point at 25c really can feels like non-inverter 19c lol

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 10 2014, 08:07 PM

i see, your fridge also ME? or panasonic?
i plan to get a 5-star rated ME fridge as well

i guess my usage would be master bedroom 11PM-6AM daily
another bedroom will be empty, only occupied when my sister is around, or when having guest overnight, should be 8PM-morning occasionally
my living room is connected to dining area and kitchen, so i will install the bigger HP aircon as you recommended or see what the shop's/installer's suggestion on the installation location

i do understand about the 25C+auto setting condition, it's written on most inverter aircon brochure