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post Feb 8 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 8 2014, 01:10 PM)
if you said is about the installer then may i know how actually the unit should be placing? do they have this kind of guide line?

like compressor must higher than indoor unit? or etc...
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Not sure about the placing.but as i watch my installer install 2 different aircond at my house,both unit have different way to install the wiring and also copper pipe...remember,all this stuff come with price...what you paid is what you get.i try to reduce the installation fee's but he warn me that he'll need to reduce the quality of piping n etc that he use...

Remember aircord come from factory where there is QC for it...but installtion is subjective as there is no specific QC for installer...some good 1 might advise but sometimes we as consumer are arrogant that we want to install it according to what we want and not following the reccemendation...

another thing is to makesure that we got the suitable aircord HP for the particular space we are using. Especially when we are choosing inverter...this is what my installer told me...where he insist to come and have a look my house before he reccemend and quote me the price for the aircond.

Another thing is my previous home my compressor is just put on the floor with 2bricks below it.been running for 3years without any problem...this aircond run 5-8hours for 2-4days a week.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:51 PM

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okay... so basically is not about the brand anymore... lolz...
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post Feb 8 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 8 2014, 11:16 AM)
Kiding,
thanks for the reply, did u asked before how much is the PCB for Mitsubishi inverter?
KimSim,
thanks for your feed back, somehow, you recommended me Mitsubishi due to easy cleaning which i can perform myself am i right?

ok if daikin give alot of problem, i would leave it behind, talk about york , the shop told me york dont have inverter they just took other brand inverter and change the branding to York only...

through both of you feed back, i would only consider Mitsubishi Inverter and York Non inverter then... problem now the price for 1 HP is how much?
mind to share? roughly?

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Due York DC Inverter & daikin is under one roof.
All the parts from York also quite similar like proton products, you can buy the parts as cheaper price to be compare to daikin or others.

If you know the parts then can be walk in to aircond spare parts and grab it as cheaper cost then replace by own.

Just the rubber parts won't be last longer than panasonic/ME, Daikin.

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post Feb 8 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 8 2014, 02:35 PM)
Due York DC Inverter & daikin is under one roof.
All the parts from York also quite similar like proton products, you can buy the parts as cheaper price to be compare as daikin or others.

Just the rubber parts won't be last longer than panasonic parts.

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Due the Panasonic is made in china already.
So I won't comments as much.
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So you are generalizing that everything made in China are bad?
If you are so anti China made products, make sure you don't use any of them.
Just to let you know, made in Malaysia stuffs some time are worst than made in China stuffs.
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post Feb 8 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 8 2014, 02:41 PM)
So you are generalizing that everything made in China are bad?
If you are so anti China made products, make sure you don't use any of them.
Just to let you know, made in Malaysia stuffs some time are worst than made in China stuffs.
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Made in china is not consider bad.
The bad one maybe is under our malaysia supplier to be bring in it products as lower class or higher class and then selling in m'sia today.

Why I saying it?
Nowadays China currency to RM already be 1 to 1.8.
But in malaysia still able to sold it as cheaper price for our budget needed.

Just compare to S'pore for 1hp can be easily selling $SGD600 and above also without installer.


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post Feb 8 2014, 05:24 PM

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Well,no point arguing which is good or which is bad...as mostly malaysian like the brand that have most publicity and advertisement...

Just get whatever you think is reasonable ans suits your need :-)
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post Feb 8 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 05:24 PM)
Well,no point arguing which is good or which is bad...as mostly malaysian like the brand that have most publicity and advertisement...

Just get whatever you think is reasonable ans suits your need :-)
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I don't really bother where it is made from. More important is the QC. Just imagine, made in Malaysia tire more expensive and can't last long. While made in other countries cheaper and last longer.
By knowing this, spare part will be very important factor.
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post Feb 8 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 8 2014, 11:16 AM)
Kiding,
thanks for the reply, did u asked before how much is the PCB for Mitsubishi inverter?
I don't know what is the price for Mitsubishi inverter PCB, but hitachi quote me RM500 for PCB.

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post Feb 9 2014, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 8 2014, 02:35 PM)
Due York DC Inverter & daikin is under one roof.
All the parts from York also quite similar like proton products, you can buy the parts as cheaper price to be compare to daikin or others.

If you know the parts then can be walk in to aircond spare parts and grab it as cheaper cost then replace by own.

Just the rubber parts won't be last longer than panasonic/ME, Daikin.

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sorry kim sim mind to circle or point where is the rubber part? from that picture?

QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 8 2014, 07:37 PM)
I don't know what is the price for Mitsubishi inverter PCB, but hitachi quote me RM500 for PCB.
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i see thanks for your feed back, u replace the PCB or change new air cond ?
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post Feb 9 2014, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 9 2014, 01:07 AM)
sorry kim sim mind to circle or point where is the rubber part? from that picture?
i see thanks for your feed back, u replace the PCB or change new air cond ?
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Wait I got time and go to SIN MA in Johor jaya, JB have bigger airconds parts supplier and after bought then take picture to show u.

So far I had never change PCB before, these only took me too noisy like before panasonic non-inverter deluxe NAVI model & older hitachi non inverter 10k btu model for me is still good in condition, these is too much for energy with noisy & under cooling for Panasonic less than a year replace with ME starmex inverter & hitachi DC inverter so far so good for them still cold like when new.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 9 2014, 06:56 AM)
Wait I got time and go to SIN MA in Johor jaya, JB have bigger airconds parts supplier and after bought then take picture to show u.

So far I had never change PCB before, these only took me too noisy like before panasonic non-inverter deluxe NAVI model & older hitachi non inverter 10k btu model for me is still good in condition, these is too much for energy with noisy & under cooling for Panasonic less than a year replace with ME starmex inverter & hitachi DC inverter so far so good for them still cold like when new.
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oh... so far the inverter type of air cond u using for how long already? 1 year?

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 9 2014, 11:29 AM)
oh... so far the inverter type of air cond u using for how long already? 1 year?
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Close to 4 years didn't call for services and ask for clean out drain leakage or overfall.

you check with this model rclxms.gif

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1hp ME Starmex inverter for 640w notworthy.gif
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2.5hp ME for 1830w only
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post Feb 10 2014, 11:37 AM

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hie,

anyone notice panasonic conventional air cond takes longer time to cool the room ?

compared to say, york?
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post Feb 10 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 11:37 AM)
hie,

anyone notice panasonic conventional air cond takes longer time to cool the room ?

compared to say, york?
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Is it? Mine never have this problem. Don't follow what the salesman says, a typical 22*14 room you need 1.5HP.
First 30 minutes you turn on the air cond, make sure the door is opened, this is to let hot air to be removed. If you on air cond and close door, sure it will take longer time.
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post Feb 10 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 11:46 AM)
Is it? Mine never have this problem. Don't follow what the salesman says, a typical 22*14 room you need 1.5HP.
First 30 minutes you turn on the air cond, make sure the door is opened, this is to let hot air to be removed. If you on air cond and close door, sure it will take longer time.
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right now, i have ordered the following due to the salesman advise:


1. 2.0 HP for living panasonic ionizer
2. 1.5 HP for master room ionizer (because i say i dowan inverter)
3. 1.0 HP york conventional for other rooms (because he say pana takes long time to cool)


any expert here can advise?
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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 11:49 AM)
right now, i have ordered the following due to the salesman advise:
1. 2.0 HP for living panasonic ionizer
2. 1.5 HP for master room ionizer (because i say i dowan inverter)
3. 1.0 HP york conventional for other rooms (because he say pana takes long time to cool)
any expert here can advise?
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Depends to your budget, there's no right or wrong.
But for me I'll still concentrate on the room ventilation, this will be the first.
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post Feb 10 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 11:51 AM)
Depends to your budget, there's no right or wrong.
But for me I'll still concentrate on the room ventilation, this will be the first.
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contemplating to use all conventional as many complain ionizer or inverter type a lot of sensor problem.

but i saw here some do not have problem.......

anyone can clarify?
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post Feb 10 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:06 PM)
contemplating to use all conventional as many complain ionizer or inverter type a lot of sensor problem.

but i saw here some do not have problem.......

anyone can clarify?
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Well, those fancy fancy trade name does not really useful all the time. Like my Panasonic comes with "air purifying". But that filter needs to be changed every year and not that cheap. I never change it.
You have more electronic parts, sure it tends to fail faster. You have money for all these nonsense, go for it. For me, I'll just stick with the most basic type.To get things repaired, it may not be few hours job. Some may need to order the parts that take weeks. During this period of time, what you want to use?
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 10 2014, 12:12 PM)
Well, those fancy fancy trade name does not really useful all the time. Like my Panasonic comes with "air purifying". But that filter needs to be changed every year and not that cheap. I never change it.
You have more electronic parts, sure it tends to fail faster. You have money for all these nonsense, go for it. For me, I'll just stick with the most basic type.To get things repaired, it may not be few hours job. Some may need to order the parts that take weeks. During this period of time, what you want to use?
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so many people told me this!!!! thumbup.gif
my mum already say....york cooling king. lol i pitam when she sang the advertisement song.

old and trusted brand i supposed.

any york hater here. i wanna collect more opinions.

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:24 PM)
so many people told me this!!!! thumbup.gif
my mum already say....york cooling king. lol i pitam when she sang the advertisement song.

old and trusted brand i supposed.

any york hater here. i wanna collect more opinions.
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Anywhere wanna more faster to cooling down and look for bigger outside size of unit.

The rest after install then u has realise what I saying

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