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post Feb 18 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 18 2014, 03:07 PM)
It is not about new aircon. If you buy undersize, your aircon cannot reach the setting temp. Or cool air leaking out from some big gap. So to check the actual, you need some thermometer to compare. The setting temp and actual shouldn't run far away.

My room thermometer record at 26-27 when I set the aircon temp to 25. That I can know what is the actual room temp.
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What is your room size?
Got 3x3x3m height?

If correct would be the original aircond really not cold enough, just look at the outside size feel like really smaller to compare York or Daikin right?

That is my exprience before from it.
So mostly I was use mid fan speed to be create very noisy for my sleep too also used 22c.

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post Feb 19 2014, 08:27 AM

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Sharing for when you choosed to good aircond brand or highend or lower specs model.

Do you think that's needed higher maintenance?
Such as ppls said replace PCB, Fan blower motor indoor/outdoor or mounting of compressor, refill gas such as R410a cost is higher?

For my experience, I dun think I need it.
When choosed the better installer for screw in as fit on nuts & screw they was solve for gas leakage issue.
Mounting of compressor with fan motor when noisy bearing was kong, maybe yes to be replace this in future.
For normal aircond usually can last up 10 yrs that's quite worth it. Even can last 20 yrs I dun think you needed.

Clean out filters as often, just hardworking only.
Like me I has apply another layer of aircond filter bought from Daiso, that is works great on my house units without any trouble like won't cooling as fast to be compare non using extra filter.
Just have to change or replace it every 1-2 months time.
The rest like clean out drain plate may need it for self job, remove casing and clean out drain plate for empty dust & jelly dusty else, to be avoid them water can't go though and overfall an issue.

The rest just enjoy your comfort air.
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post Feb 19 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 09:21 AM)
Hey guy, my wife bought this after recommendation from a friends,
http://www.myfirenzzi.com/firenzzi/item.ph...ifier&itemIdx=2
Try it last nite..on a/c at 23ÂēC til 4am, off the fan and let the humidifier on till 5am. Set the humidity level at 60%.
Awake ard 5.30 n doesn't feel tat dry in my throat....awake bcoz getting hot without a/c and fan sad.gif  . But my humidifier does not off at that time..
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So this first try its consider successful....maybe...
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If use for permanent really quite lazy to change water right...
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post Feb 19 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 19 2014, 10:28 AM)
Humidifier need to be switch off earlier, let the Ac run extra 30mins. Don't run humidifier in a room without Ac, too damp may cause fungus growth. Where did you get this humidifier? May want to try one.
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This kind if humidifier good or not good.

Good to help skins won't turn too dryer.

No good if you turn in high speed on your ear may feel like water into & can't hear as clear.

Cause inb4 I'm using it also, after few months to be lazy for change water & refill in water else.
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post Feb 19 2014, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 19 2014, 10:42 AM)
You making cloud meh, won't have such problem la. Now it can select power mode, low - high. The "Leceh" part is refill water.

It does help especially you have dry cough.
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For main thing only adjusted to higher temp. as 25C should be solve.
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post Feb 19 2014, 03:22 PM

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Here have some tip to choose the bigger size = more faster cold down as short of duration time.

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post Feb 19 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 03:22 PM)
Most of the time if i on the a/c during sleep, i will set it off early but still feel the dryness.
Well, 20-23ÂēC is wat normally i set ...
BTW, its not 500 but 320 wat i paid....hope it wont wasted...
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How long already has been usage from new?
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post Feb 19 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 19 2014, 03:44 PM)
i dont get it... u mean that is the Compressor size for respective brand? the bigger size the better? which means york/daikin more better?
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Meant more bigger compartment can put more cost of aluminum coil.

In before of my ME inverter outdoor = 800x550 and today to be reduce into = 684x540 that's was sad man.

Smaller size can be cost cutting to be using leaser coil, in the real life comparison definitely smaller = slower cooling down than using bigger outdoor size to be more faster cooling.

Inb4 all outdoor size is bigger and nowadays all to be custing edge and design smaller size with cheaper shipping cost somemore.

For my experience when I'm using York inverter 1hp in my wife kampung for room size 4.5x4.5x3.2m height still feel that 25C good than enough, also direct afternoon sun.

If you wanna choose for same room size of panasonic 1hp non-inverter then die die must go for 1.5hp to be suit the same room size.

Unless you choose for York cooling king also using same size of inverter unit outdoor.

More bigger size can be exhaust out more heat to be reduce some air for blowing out from fan motor.

Small size too much compact and hide more heat into compressor and coil gap for slower runing out heat.

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post Feb 19 2014, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 19 2014, 04:08 PM)
actually size of the compressor is not that relevant. its how much surface has been squeezed inside that can dissipate heat. most compresors now are smaller because the manufacturer can squeeze more surface in a smaller box (the fins are finer essentially). comparing the housing size wont do you much help i fear.
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If too much compacted fins gap also not really well to exhaust out heat from fan motor always blow out too much heating air.. To be spoil green envoplment.

Slightly dirty air from strong wind over and stucked on fins to be blocked all fins surface that why many ppls keep complaining won't be cold like new.. Lol

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:09 PM)
I just move in to my new hse less than 2 month n use a/c during sleep less than 10 nite..
What i mentioned before is at my old apartment..i suspect it not in good condition but i dont bother to repair it. biggrin.gif
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Ok just need to know your Aircon hp and your room size.

If really underpower that is you facted now
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post Feb 19 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Feb 19 2014, 04:16 PM)
living room (6.15m L x 5.9m W x 3m H)
master room (5.45m L x 5.3m W x 2.9m H)

both room proposed to use 2.0hp non inverter. is it sufficient?
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Lol your room and living hall really big.

For living hall will prefer you do 2.0hp
And room go for 1.5hp if not direct sun.

That's help your healthy life.
Because 2hp definitely really over strong airflow to be overkill your skins.

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:18 PM)
Roughly 3.7m x 4.5m x 2.7m ht and using Daikin 1.5hp inverter..but i feel it cool enuf
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I guess you may set too lower temperature already.

Cause for 20-22C really overkill for inverter unit.
Unless your unit is runing R22 gas

Because my room size same like you now and only use as 25C for my set point is the lower one.

I can't take lower than 24C for my longer night, my foot really feels that too much cold until I suddenly wake up.

But mine is ME inverter running R410a gas.

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:24 PM)
So meaning that i sud set higher than that like 23 - 25ÂēC ???
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Because my room size same like you now and only use as 25C for my set point is the lower one.

I can't take lower than 24C for my longer night, my foot really feels that too much cold until I suddenly wake up.

But mine is ME inverter running R410a gas 1hp only

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:28 PM)
ic.....but mine donno wat gas it's running....i will try to set it higher from now and see whether its cool enuf o not...anyway thks for your advise...
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Please check your specs.

Because have my friend also using same type of 1hp Daikin inverter R22 also feels that not really cold enough.

Also your is 1.5Hp should not set too lower temp.
From 1hp to 1.5hp from 1.5hp really used more stronger airflow to direct your face or skins, that is why you complaining too dryed.

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:40 PM)
No harm trying wat kimsim suggest, but hope 25 is cool enuf for us.  I will still utilize the humidifier since its olede there......
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Got one solution for you, please switch on 1 hour before going for sleep.

I'm always used it kind of method.
Becoz mine also set as 25C mah..

See wether can off the eye motion or not.
Eye motion only help up when you not around & increase one more deg.

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
waste 1 hour of electricity lor..hahaha....
one of the option that i can hav a try..no harm as i mentioned early..thks
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Waste 1 hour and rather than you waste from start sleep til wake up and set for 20-22C over there's has been cost you more than Rm100++

If you can see or notice about your TNB meter set from 22C bilking faster vs 25C bilking slightly slower than try to use more but pay lesser.

He he I knew I'm enjoy my comfort air wow.



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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 20 2014, 12:45 AM)
sorry but i dont agree. you expel the hot air with the fan. you can compact as much as you like given there is airflow - it will not make a difference.

the dirt argument is the same for any given compressor box. small or big wont matter.
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That is my personal reference.

Smaller design was good for high rise housing, bigger design was due to too much cost already.
For me if I can choose still go for bigger one.
Ha ha wait another 5 yrs times in future 2hp outdoor size used for 1-1.5hp compact size already.
For Panasonic never surprise they early in malaysia specs has been used 1hp deluxe model outdoor size like York/daikin current 1-1.5hp inverter outdoor size for Panasonic 2hp non/inverter unit now.

If you not sure then try to install both in your 2 room as different brand and bigger outdoor and smaller outdoor size for other room.

Smaller outdoor size really can take it quicky cold down, I will believe you as latest technology for cutting edge.

This method I had used in 3 yrs back...
Finally I was found that really not suit to me within a year for replaced into bigger size one.

Anywhere money is your, you can choose big or small as your choice only..

In before all the deluxe specs vs standard specs outdoor size really made a different and nowadays all same, but malaysia weather didn't change to 4 season lol.

Sometime for real life and imaging is diff kind.. smile.gif)

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 20 2014, 08:55 AM)
Haha..my elec bill never exceed 100 all the while..for the past 2 month in my new place oso same...anyhow i will try those method suggest by u...
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Ha ha I though u did yesterday night already...lol
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QUOTE(jagjag @ Feb 20 2014, 09:19 AM)
Yday i hav a dinner wit all my family in my hse..so bz bz ..by the time settle everything olede time to sleep...so no chance to try out the 'on for 1 hour experiment'... biggrin.gif ...
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That's ok... Looks like your bill really crazy save oh. notworthy.gif
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