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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(hz428 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:37 AM) folks, i had been told that the inverter and non inverter type require different pipe size? can any guru here clarify this? Different pipe? Do you check the quality of thickness, no right. From they can bought better grade only. Once is installed, do not change from R22 or R410a gas works as existing piping. Unless the aircond installer use air vaccum to high power for suction all the existing oil sticks on cooper pipe or use same gas as new aircond to be purge it out of older oil and re-used back of existing cooper pipe only.
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 11:53 AM
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Different gas pipe of class or grade, they got diff. Cost.
If I'm the contractor for sure I will choose the most close to inverter gas pressure for works it nicely done. At lease I knew the installation cost until where.
Also now m'sia currency very weak from all imported cooper pipe, for class to grade and only selected for china made to be cost saving..
Lol
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 20 2014, 12:00 PM) That's why I choose Panasonic over York, compressor smaller and more quiet than York(same HP). Ok here, for example panasonic can archive 2hp used same size as 1hp outdoor unit. Do you buy? Just a funny question
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 20 2014, 12:17 PM) If they produced equal or closed btu why not. Is the same analogy, same engine but some are bigger cc, because internal are different. Thanks your answer. But time to time has more high Rev like Jet engine to increase fan spin speed and compressor RPM to suit same generate as high BTU. Like that fan motor more faster kong and compressor cut shorter life's... Unless this is cheap for customer choice.
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(hz428 @ Feb 20 2014, 02:48 PM) if i want to purchase this model what is the pipe size needed? (thickness and inner diameter) Mitsubishi MSY-GJ13VA http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ircond/inverterPlease try to install with new gas pipe, since you pay for installer, should be come with free 3m long cooper pipe. This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 20 2014, 03:21 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 20 2014, 02:17 PM) Some are similar size, just the compressor are difference, and different blower speed. How can you tell it have a shorter lifespan? just like a Mitsu engine, 4g9x block, internal is different but engine dimension are the same, and sharing many common parts. It doesn't mean is not reliable. Is about cost effective in mass production. Ok, I guess they will using smaller compressor size and added in with inter cooler turbo mode for increase hi-jet speed, twin rotary motor may hit up 9000 RPM to suit higher BTU. When no overheat issue was runing more faster for ventilation in smaller compartment too. Life spend wise may see how user to increase lower temperature like a vroom. That is ok, I'm thinking too much already, just used whatever manufactured supplier now. For your right choice. This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 20 2014, 07:13 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 20 2014, 07:42 PM) Please lah, force induction is different. My anology apply to almost all manufacturing product. Go chop shop and compare 4g92 and 4g93 engine one is 1.6 another is 1.8L outside look same size but CC are different. If you are into Nissan sr16, sr18, sr20 all physically measure similar size, but one is 1.6L, 1.8L, and 2L. Therefore if you see your favourite brand look bigger than other it may not mean is better. they use bigger casing but internal is just the correct component size. Ok agree with your statement. Your is take from exprience right. Did both install same facing to hot after non sun and set same temp of deg,does it mean then smaller one can more faster reaching?
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 20 2014, 09:45 PM
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share for what i did it before for DIY repaint over for my older York model. even turn to yellowish also not an issue   outdoor unit This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 20 2014, 09:47 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 21 2014, 12:39 AM) If both have same BTU, doesn't matter the size. Both will have equal time to cold the same room condition. You statement in paper like, aircond still an aircond, no mater how big or smaller at the end still can get cold your room right. But sometime that is ur opinion only. In the real life from user won't be so simple, we pay money to buy the thing and at lease we not too unfair right. Remember when buy all those thing still in a One price for one quality of product at lease should be melt as what we paid, not only sell the brand name and at lease after bought should enjoy the comfort air. This topic to be end here, if you are the consumer should know how to do. Thank you. This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 21 2014, 12:55 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 21 2014, 08:28 AM) where can i buy indoor unit only? i mean the blower. I already have my old compressor. Tq What model and name do u looking for? Can walk in any aircond shop for ask the indoor fan blower as refurbished some as still in nice condition also come with remote. This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 21 2014, 08:32 AM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 21 2014, 09:11 AM) I'm new to this aircond thingy. I have couple of Panasonic compressors plus York. I believe the blower must be the same brand with the compressor, but wonder if the compressor can be used with any model of the same brand blower. I'm not referring to the diff between inverter and non inverter thingy. All the compressor are non inverter type. Please enlighten me. Thanks ya Your ideal I'm done before make sure that fan blower as well in good maintenance. Should be test in aircond shop before you ask them to install at your house. Blower fan coil, may due to some coil gas leakage won't cold, blower motor bearing kong, PCB was an issue Everything is depend your luck. Unless you know the boss. Actually you can look at LYN at electronic sell, for aircond specialist in used aircond.
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 12:53 PM
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No worried, my comments would be discussion only. If really related for whole malaysia sales drop.. I am really supprise for that. In future do not comparison again  )
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 04:01 PM
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Anywhere R410a gas I guess in malaysia cost of price also bring down.
Like s'pote market has been discounted R22 gas by this year.
From new launched price per tank of gas R410a = SGD$150++ and now has reduce to half price at round $75++.
I guess in future 2015 would be launch R410a non-inverter series to be died died used an R410a already.
That's good for saving green envoplment too.
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 04:09 PM
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What's so great on R410a gas? More pressure = more efficient for reached temperature set point. Also good new for Aircond contractor can ask consumer to upgrade older existing cooper pipes. Such as concealed in wall, just said bye bye for you and hack off for re-runs new cooper or used trunking only. Ugly look? I'm not sure...
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2014, 06:38 PM) hi guys, i wanted to get a normal air-cond for a medium size room in my apartment. which brand/model to recommend? daikin vs york vs mitshubisi? budget is about rm1200 and below. Midium size mean? How big of the overall dimension?
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2014, 06:51 PM) our 3 rooms apartment is 854 SF. that room is a master bed room. Not sure if 3x4m then go for 1hp for bedroom and living hall 1.5hp or 2hp should be enough. Brand can decide York Cooling King, if you wanna go for budget and come with higher BTU also This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 21 2014, 06:53 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2014, 07:00 PM) 'What's BTU? I heard york cool fast but noisy but cheaper. What about Daikin? Daikin my neighbor using it, less than 2 yrs already feels like he using 6 yrs condition, for outdoor too noisy already
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 07:08 PM
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BTU meant = like a car house power and capacity to cooling your room quicky.
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2014, 07:09 PM) wa meaning daikin not durable like that but that's one. mabye he/she unlucky kua Dunno him... How he used.. Compressor noisy + fan runing. Very clear to hear from my car porch. At lease York more cooling BTU and won't used so much energy to force the thing works too tired. I'm saying non inverter only This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 21 2014, 07:24 PM
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SUSkimsim
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Feb 21 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 21 2014, 07:09 PM) wa meaning daikin not durable like that but that's one. mabye he/she unlucky kua Bukan not durable parts... But parts easily worm out. Due to older technology never improved.
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