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post Dec 6 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Dec 6 2013, 03:18 PM)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51868.90

from this discussion here with the corsair representative in GH, i doubt corsair is going to change into standard layout
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There must be a big reason why Corsair cant change to standard layout....OEM cost? PCB already printed? Keycaps already ordered maybe.... its not like susah sangat nak buat, but if planning have been done eons ago, maybe initial production has already started...

and from his reply, itu corsair rep cuba lari topik laugh.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 6 2013, 03:35 PM)
There must be a big reason why Corsair cant change to standard layout....OEM cost? PCB already printed? Keycaps already ordered maybe.... its not like susah sangat nak buat, but if planning have been done eons ago, maybe initial production has already started...

and from his reply, itu corsair rep cuba lari topik laugh.gif
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I suspect the same thing. Contract with PCB maker perhaps? But I think its involving cost. Yeah, Corsair seems like didn't get what end user want. Or he answer them like that intentionally. laugh.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:56 PM

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i think end users like us who likes changing keycaps are a minority in their book.
they don't need to spend additional cost to change their layout/design just because of this small minorities.

i think at the end of the day, we might see gaming mod kits coming from keycaps suppliers sweat.gif

This post has been edited by justnits: Dec 6 2013, 03:58 PM
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:07 PM

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It break their heart when people mentioning their rival such as CM Storm. laugh.gif The backlit is not really an issue as it can be turn off. Oh Corsair, change your layout and you can beat your rival. But TBH, even though I'm a gamer I don't think gamers design make you a gamer. But most gamers want that kind of design, to be different from ordinary keyboard.
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:07 PM)
It break their heart when people mentioning their rival such as CM Storm. laugh.gif The backlit is not really an issue as it can be turn off. Oh Corsair, change your layout and you can beat your rival. But TBH, even though I'm a gamer I don't think gamers design make you a gamer. But most gamers want that kind of design, to be different from ordinary keyboard.
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I don't see any starcraft progamer use "gaming" keyboard. the design and macro are just gimmick imo
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:11 PM

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gamers would want custom keycaps on their keyboard so they are different from the rest of the razer, steelseries, corsair keyboards in tournament halls laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:11 PM)
I don't see any starcraft progamer use "gaming" keyboard. the design and macro are just gimmick imo
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The funny thing is when a gamer said macro is a must. After buy standard mechanical keyboard, they didn't complaint regarding the absent of macro key. laugh.gif

QUOTE(justnits @ Dec 6 2013, 04:11 PM)
gamers would want custom keycaps on their keyboard so they are different from the rest of the razer, steelseries, corsair keyboards in tournament halls laugh.gif
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I don't think so. Imagine Razer with pink keycaps. It's more like a pink hearted gamers. laugh.gif Pink means not pro. laugh.gif From what I observe in Dota 2 facebook group, when someone ask what keyboard should they buy, the first brand is Razer BWU, followed by Logitech because Razer sucks. Then Corsair fan came in, bashing them all. CM fan will try to join the crowd and they will say CM design too common. And that's where Roccat and Armageddon come in. thumbup.gif

Recent case, this fellow fall in love with pink white Limited Edition Ducky, and I support him. And I was the only person that ask him to buy Ducky. And another guy attached lowyat.net mechanical V18 link. And the rest, gaming link, review, and gaming brand. And they start to bash each other. doh.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:24 PM

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diaBoliQu3 sorry for my rude, whats ur fb name, whats the group? im one of it i guess, and seems like you talked about me lol
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:20 PM)
The funny thing is when a gamer said macro is a must. After buy standard mechanical keyboard,  they didn't complaint regarding the absent of macro key. laugh.gif
I don't think so. Imagine Razer with pink keycaps. It's more like a pink hearted gamers. laugh.gif Pink means not pro. laugh.gif From what I observe in Dota 2 facebook group, when someone ask what keyboard should they buy, the first brand is Razer BWU, followed by Logitech because Razer sucks. Then Corsair fan came in, bashing them all. CM fan will try to join the crowd and they will say CM design too common. And that's where Roccat and Armageddon come in.  thumbup.gif

Recent case, this fellow fall in love with pink white Limited Edition Ducky, and I support him. And I was the only person that ask him to buy Ducky. And another guy attached lowyat.net mechanical V18 link. And the rest, gaming link, review, and gaming brand. And they start to bash each other. doh.gif
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look at his kb

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post Dec 6 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:20 PM)
The funny thing is when a gamer said macro is a must. After buy standard mechanical keyboard,  they didn't complaint regarding the absent of macro key. laugh.gif
I don't think so. Imagine Razer with pink keycaps. It's more like a pink hearted gamers. laugh.gif Pink means not pro. laugh.gif From what I observe in Dota 2 facebook group, when someone ask what keyboard should they buy, the first brand is Razer BWU, followed by Logitech because Razer sucks. Then Corsair fan came in, bashing them all. CM fan will try to join the crowd and they will say CM design too common. And that's where Roccat and Armageddon come in.  thumbup.gif

Recent case, this fellow fall in love with pink white Limited Edition Ducky, and I support him. And I was the only person that ask him to buy Ducky. And another guy attached lowyat.net mechanical V18 link. And the rest, gaming link, review, and gaming brand. And they start to bash each other. doh.gif
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of course lah...fanboys everywhere will bash up ppl with different ideas laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Powet @ Dec 6 2013, 04:24 PM)
diaBoliQu3 sorry for my rude, whats ur fb name, whats the group? im one of it i guess, and seems like you talked about me lol
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Wait, did I bash you or you bash me? I didn't recall people bash me or I bash others in that group. It's funny when they bashing each other. laugh.gif Plus, I leave that group. Admin seems like to hate me, deleting every my sale thread but allowing racist and stupid link post. The saddest facebook group of all.

And I suspect he doesn't want those kids to know lowyat.net. Asking regarding building rig but they didn't appreciate the hardware Q&A link and keep spamming Alienware. doh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:26 PM)


look at his kb
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Leopold FC-700R

i cheated...read comments laugh.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:26 PM)


look at his kb
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Logitech G9X mouse
Razer Goliathus Control Mouse Mat
Leopold FC-700R (MX Blue)

He is the future RSI sufferer.
He should map all his keys & macros near to his left hand. sad.gif

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:34 PM)
Logitech G9X mouse
Razer Goliathus Control Mouse Mat
Leopold FC-700R (MX Blue)

He is the future RSI sufferer.
He should map all his keys & macros near to his left hand. sad.gif
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i see his finger move also feel as if i could get RSI d shocking.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 6 2013, 04:30 PM)
Wait, did I bash you or you bash me? I didn't recall people bash me or I bash others in that group. It's funny when they bashing each other. laugh.gif Plus, I leave that group. Admin seems like to hate me, deleting every my sale thread but allowing racist and stupid link post. The saddest facebook group of all.

And I suspect he doesn't want those kids to know lowyat.net. Asking regarding building rig but they didn't appreciate the hardware Q&A link and keep spamming Alienware. doh.gif  laugh.gif
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no2 i didnt provoke or bash anyone in the group, but the one "posted mKB thread v18" i guess it's me -.- and i know there's 1 famous trader who been hate by one of the admin in a m'sia d2 group, ur fb name? (i guess i knew who iinm) tongue.gif and are u referring D2M group? or D2TM or MD2 or blah3 rclxub.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Dec 6 2013, 04:48 PM)
i see his finger move also feel as if i could get RSI d shocking.gif
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If care for your health, please watch these 2 videos;

1. Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZe-tyj_1s

2. Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (CTS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J11EIfiHMYw
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Dec 6 2013, 12:30 PM)
look at the modifier already telling that the spacebar is f***ed up razer bwu and cm qf pro saying hi.
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post Dec 6 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 6 2013, 03:35 PM)
There must be a big reason why Corsair cant change to standard layout....OEM cost? PCB already printed? Keycaps already ordered maybe.... its not like susah sangat nak buat, but if planning have been done eons ago, maybe initial production has already started...

and from his reply, itu corsair rep cuba lari topik laugh.gif
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Their OEM known to use their own weird 1.5,1 and 1.25 mix modifiers, not sure why.

But then, since this new RGB MX require RGB led to surface mounted on the PCB, they might need new OEM for that?
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 6 2013, 03:39 PM)
I suspect the same thing. Contract with PCB maker perhaps? But I think its involving cost. Yeah, Corsair seems like didn't get what end user want. Or he answer them like that intentionally. laugh.gif
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If on fulfilling what user wants, I think chinabrands like KBC, PLUM or even keycool are the closest one. They even care about the modability of their keyboards which mostly only non-mainstream keyboarders like us care.

On international level, I will say CM is the one. They spamming out lines and lines of products made by different oem, with different layout and now even to the extend of putting topre switches. No other players did like them.

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There is a topic today on What is the Best Mechanical Keyboard on Lifehacker ;
http://lifehacker.com/whats-the-best-mecha...oard-1476387804 biggrin.gif

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