QUOTE(neekun @ May 13 2024, 04:18 PM)
I'm not sure. I dealt with him too. I now recall why I didn't go with Titanium Plus as the highest VLT is only 40%. It's too low to be used for the front windscreen but I understand some people don't mind.
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May 13 2024, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(neekun @ May 13 2024, 04:18 PM) I'm not sure. I dealt with him too. I now recall why I didn't go with Titanium Plus as the highest VLT is only 40%. It's too low to be used for the front windscreen but I understand some people don't mind. |
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Jun 14 2024, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(crixalisrox @ Jun 13 2024, 01:53 PM) I agree on this. 2 cars installed with totalgard tint can feel the heat even thou their IRR & TSER spec looks good on paper. Totalgard is the worst performing tint I've experienced so far as the heat through the front windscreen almost feels like a bare windscreen. I'm not sure which option you took. Mine was the tint with the highest VLT (60%+ VLT). Can't complain much, their price is competitive and after sales support is good too. My new car installed with Coolgard surely feels much cooler and the difference is apparent. Performance is judged when the car is parked under hot sun for many hours, then upon entering the vehicle the scorching sun still penetrates through the front windscreen and shine directly to the face in the first 1-2 minutes. The heat from the sun burning the face is much higher with the Totalgard. |
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Jun 14 2024, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 13 2024, 11:14 PM) What do u mean good on paper Good on paper means the IRR and TSER numbers look better/higher than other tints such as V-kool Elite for example, but the real life performance is the other way round. I do not have explanation of the Linshang film transmission reader used to measure the readings but in real life experience, the Totalgard tint has the worst heat rejection performance in my experience. Mine is with the highest VLT tint for the front windscreen so experiences from others may be different if they opt for the tint with lower VLT.They show the reading using linshang film transmission reader Not sure if they can modified the device It feel heat if park not moving. If moving my ekon set to 23c is enough on hot sunny day Before tinted need to set to 20/21c |
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Jun 14 2024, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 13 2024, 02:13 PM) I think all tints can also feel the heat no matter what. TSER only block certain percentage, the rest will still get thru. Overtime, even a cake can be bake in the car when parked under hot sun for long hours even with the most premium tint. That's true. Although heat will still get through a tinted vehicle, there will still be a difference in heat rejection performance with the tints. Otherwise, everyone will be doing their cars with RM500-600 tints and disregard tints costing RM1k+. |
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Jun 14 2024, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 14 2024, 08:07 AM) This is bcoz u compare with exp tint I consider Totalgard as a cheap tint. No experience with super-cheap tints costing below RM300. With the result I'm getting with Totalgard, I assume there will be no difference between those RM99 or 199 tints with an untinted vehicle.Proton vs bmw Have u compare with other cheap tint ads in fb rm99, rm199, rm299, etc Other exp tint maybe incl security film which isnt incl in tgard so there's addtnl cost too |
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Jun 14 2024, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 14 2024, 08:32 AM) If vs Coolgard, and the price u mentioned last time, not even convincing even website also unable to show detail, website . Rather heading to rm2k+ brand than taking that, vouch for 3M Crystalline. The website may not be convincing, but the performance of Coolgard in real life is surely better than Totalgard. However, the price of the Coolgard is about 2X the Totalgard. Nevertheless, the Coolgard is still cheaper than the premium tints such as V-kool. For tint, look at spec then verify it on meter. Similar to those who send car for remaps, not using butt dyno. The reason I went with Coolgard is I only install the tint on the front windscreen. All sides and rear windscreens are already installed with customized tints included in the package of the new car purchase. I wanted a better tint on the front windscreen so I spent extra money replacing the tint here as to me the front windscreen is the most important. This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 14 2024, 09:15 AM |
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Jun 14 2024, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 14 2024, 08:42 AM) I am free again, so ciong hei opinion ranting (long post again). Feel free to skip. Good post. Others may use meters to take readings of tints, but I'm not bothered. People may say it's inaccurate or anything, but I judge based on entering the car and feeling the heat on my face. You have used the back of your hand. Layman way of doing, but it's still useful. The difference is obvious when I enter the car with the Totalgard and another car with Coolgard. The front windscreen is always most important as I judge based on the heat penetrating the front windscreen that's shining on my face. With the Totalgard, it's oven burning hot even though the air-cond is switched on, still need to wait 1+ minute for the whole car to cool down. With Coolgard or V-kool, although it's hot, it's not burning oven hot, still bearable. My 2 cents for layman (not technical, just casual user) is I roughly evaluate a tint heat performance by putting the back of my hand under the tint in hot sun. How hot is it on the back of my hands. I think most layman do that, no technically accurate at all, really pasar style but.....it worked for most. Heat will always build up overtime no matter what tint used if park for long hours under hot sun. A good tint slows down the heat penetration thus slows down the heat buildup in the car. A good tints will contribute to heat reduction ON skin while you are in the car with direct noon sunlight shining directly on you. You will feel the heat but you won't feel the painful sting on the skin. Just an example of how I see a good heat resistance between a good one with a bad one is lets say during the start, the temp is 24 for both tints, after half an hour, a good tint is 28, a bad one 32, 1 hours, a good one 32, a bad 38, 2 hours, a good one 36, bad one cooking at over 40. After 3 hours, both cooking. Of course, the car body also absorb heat and add in the heat. We are just talking about direct heat penetration thru glass that contribute the most heat direct into the car. So if you stay in the car under super hot sun, idling, waiting for half and hour, an hour (did that so many times, wifey go buy stuff), that is where good tints heat resistant effect comes maximum into play, air cond also no need switch so high vs bad or nor no tint. Sunlight no sting on skin, still feel the heat but MUCH lesser vs lousy ones. So some say not worth to premium ones but for some like me who wants MAXIMUM comfort under hot sun, it is worth it....a bit wasteful tho, I admit the money can be better spend elsewhere but that is how I spend it, no regret on the tints, just regret when I think I can go eat chicken so many times with the money I spend. Some comment, no need good tint, they don't sleep in car....I do...sometimes...hahaha. That is besides the protection accorded to a good tint UV protection of leather, dashboard, plastic, etc inside the car over the years. I kept my cars for decade or 2, trust me when I say my dashboard still looks very new, practically little to no fading, always parked under hot sun. Also a good tint adds to anti-glare, at least to the Windscreen. Act exactly like the rear view mirror dimmer (some cars have rear view mirror anti-glare) darn cheapo Honda skipped that for most models, so this worked the same except the entire rear Windscreen act like anti-glare dimmer. All these are layman understanding that have no scientific data to backup...but that is how I see it. Now why I preferred a good metallized tints over ceramic (might not be correct but that is how I generally understand them, in layman term), metalized sputter tints like VKool Elite and Irispro Elite, Diamond and DX series reflect heat. If using silver sputter like VKool and Irispro DX, it has the best metal heat reflection. Ceramic absorb heat and disperse them. The weakness for ceramic (at least IMO), is ceramic worked great while it is moving, the wind will help disperse the heat, so do aircond but heat still get absorbed (some into the car before air-cond disperse them). Metallized sputter reflect some of them (not all lar, just the basic metallized attribute), so while heat still get thru into the car, when compared with ceramic, much less will get into it in the first place (at least on the same quality comparison, again no hard data, just basic understanding). That is my own layman understanding (might not be accurate but I believe it is generally like that). Of course improvement of nano ceramic tech will upgrade the heat resistance but so do nano metallized sputter improvement. Good metallized sputter are generally more expensive due to the real metal used but also depends on quality of sputter, metal. There are some cheap metallized sputter but I don't trust those coz in general market, good metallized sputter with high quality material and sputter process (some good sputter used 6 micro layers for each metal sputter layer) will definitely cost more to produced. Some do hike up pricing due to brand names (proven reliability tho) but some like Irispro trying to build their brand names and try to penetrate the market with lower pricing (for metallized sputter pricing lar, still even supposedly lowered, it is still darn premium pricing compared to other branded ceramics). Of course I can't dispute some expert that are into tints or r&D and tried out many tints like dwRK....hehe...If you asked a mechanic, they will always think not worth to buy new car coz they truly understand and know the in and out of it...Same with sardine canner worker, they will likely never eat canned sardine, ever. Haha... I am no mechanic, so I buy premium tints that I feel worked super great, maximized comfort on what I can afford, keep life simple, just spend money and eat real shit after..hahaha. Ok I have a meeting soon so can't write too much. |
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 14 2024, 09:22 AM) I"m not sure what spec whether sputter or nano ceramic as I didn't ask. But this is the price for various IRR numbers, price is only for the FWS. Higher IRR, higher price. VLT is customisable, only 4 options (VLT 80%, VLT 70%, VLT 40%, VLT 20%). 1) Irr 95% rm830 2) Irr 88% rm680 3) Irr 75% rm580 4) Irr 65% rm380 I took the best spec IRR 95%, VLT 70% for FWS. Price of V-kool Elite for FWS is RM1,300. Usually if doing just FWS only, the price is higher when compared to doing for whole car. This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 14 2024, 12:07 PM dwRK liked this post
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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Jun 14 2024, 11:27 AM) Hey guys, just bought CRV V spec latest model, the honda sales give me a package for tint and coat, can someone tell me if this price are reasonable and if the package is good and worth it? It depends if you value or appreciate car coating. Personally I view car coating as unnecessary. With new Nissan Almera, previously my service advisor asked me if I wanted to do car coating (need to pay), and I rejected it. Now latest offer, the car coating and tint were included in the new car purchase with the price of new car unchanged. I presume the cost of the coating should be very low since they can include it FOC. There's 4 different package for CRV price is rm6600, rm5300, rm4200 and rm3200 or should i seek for other shop? the benefit is they can do it for me before pickup car, so no need to arrange another day, so i am thinking if the price is more and less the same i just let them do it ![]() For tint, I am not sure if the Honda package V-kool 70 presumably for FWS combined with other types of tint for side and rear is comparable to V-Kool Elite for whole car. With Nissan, the price for V-Kool Elite for Nissan Almera (all FWS, side and rear windscreens) is only RM2,800. If doing outside it's significantly more expensive, RM3k+ or RM4k+ if I'm not mistaken. To cut a story short, if it was me, I would opt for just tinting outside of your choice or budget since the packages don't look too attractive to me. I'm not sure if the Charcoal Plus 6 is V-Kool, and the other tint package is safety tint instead of heat rejection tint. I personally favour heat rejection tint over safety tint. The price of RM4.7k isn't exactly cheap for this combination tint. |
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jun 3 2025, 08:37 AM) I am a supporter for VKool except now cannot afford coz too expensive due to this as well. V-Kool is costly if installing at authorised installers. However, if buying new cars you may opt for V-Kool package with reduced prices for certain brands, one being Nissan. With the Nissan Almera, V-Kool Elite for whole car costs only RM2.8k, other cars would be around the same price. If installing outside I believe the price will be close to RM4k or higher. The true test if my 14 years old proton persona that are still using VKool Elite. That car are ALWAYS parked under hot sun. Although the tints heat resistant has degraded now, it is still working ok enuf (for clear tint) and the dashboards and leather seats are still good. Based on my limited experience, V-Kool has the best heat rejection and durability when compared to all other tints I've installed on my previous cars. However, all those tints are cheaper tints (Huper Optik and others) so the results are expected. Tints with good heat rejection performance are usually more expensive. The Huper Optik tint is pretty good but only for about 3 years before the heat rejection performance drops. By the 7th or 8th year the car feels like there is no tint as it feels like an oven inside the car. The V-Kool Elite feels the same from the first day it was installed on the new car until the 5th year when I sold the car (Nissan Sylphy), no perceived drop in heat rejection performance. I think it's normal for the leather seats inside a vehicle to deteriorate with time, not only from the sun but wear and tear. Also, the type of leather is a factor too as most are not real leather. It is usually at the sides of the seats where the lines or cracks will appear, or the sides of the backrest. Even normal leather sofas in the living room will show wear and tear. For me, the most important criteria of a tint is to have good heat rejection for the comfort of the driver and passengers, all other considerations are secondary. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 25 2025, 10:14 AM) I'm just suggesting that V-Kool tint can be installed at cheaper prices when buying new cars, not necessarily with Nissan but with other brands that I may not be aware of, and it will be useful for prospective owners who are considering a Nissan if they appreciate good quality tints such as V-Kool. Yes, there is a lack of interest with Nissan vehicles these days when compared to other Japanese makes but there will still be interest. It's not actually "no one" is interested in TCM, "not many" would be more appropriate. This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 25 2025, 11:31 AM |
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