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SportyHandling
post Jul 9 2023, 10:41 AM

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This thread is too long. Can we have as summary of people's experiences in short concise form, perhaps on a new thread also so that the information won't get lost in between the pages.

So far my experience is with Huper Optik and V-kool.

V-kool Elite - best heat rejection performance. Last up to 5 years when I sold the car. Read from other people's experiences that the performance lasted more than 10 years. Greenish hue which feels calmer and more soothing to the eye when compared to brownish hue of Huper Optik.
GPS devices such as Waze or Google map navigation do not work here which is an issue. Not sure if it works now.
Price : RM3600 for C-segment sedan about 15 years ago.

Huper Optik - (Sech60/C40) Heat rejection and longevity performance is not as good as V-kool. Performance starts to drop only after 3 years. It's only good for around 2+ years when it's still fairly new. Feels like there's no tint on the vehicle after 7 years. Brownish hue which feels less soothing to the eye compared to the greenish hue of V-kool.
No issue with GPS devices such as Waze or Google map navigation.
Price : RM1700 for C-segment sedan which is significantly cheaper than V-kool.
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post Jul 9 2023, 10:58 AM

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Has anyone found a tint that is comparable to V-kool's performance at around RM2k or less. ๐Ÿ˜
If there's none I suppose V-kool may be one of the best choice if heat rejection performance is top priority, but at a price.
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post Jul 9 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 9 2023, 11:03 AM)
Comparable in term of spec? If yes, I did tried the Totalgard Infusion Pro series for my local car made with sunroof. All in rm900. Tbh, it exceed my expectations, not hot even park under open parking at Legoland Johor. 99-100% IRR works as well as high TSER %. If i buy a new car in future, definitely will choose the same again and hope they will not increase the product price in future or downgrade the spec.

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Comparable in terms of real life performance. Yes, spec is important but as we all know, not all of them are accurate. It's just numbers which can be written or published just like that unless tests are carried out to measure and verify the authenticity. Otherwise it's just numbers that anyone can create. Having said that the spec is still important but it's real life performance or experience of the people which I am seeking.

Good to know there's a cheaper alternative that may give expensive tints a run for the money.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 9 2023, 02:13 PM)
To verify it good on real life, make sure to check it or verify it by the meter, 3M meter etc which get to see the VLT and IRR%. But how it is good materials is to check if it last long and not degrades too soon. On my car, it still work great as day 1
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Can GPS navigation (Google Maps and Waze) work with TotalGard? I noticed the highest VLT with Titanium Plus is only 40% which is too dark for the front windscreen so the Infusion Pro needs to be used at the front windscreen, either 63% of 53% VLT.

Have you used V-Kool Elite in your cars before? If yes, you will have real-life experience and can compare both V-Kool and TotalGard. The performance of TotalGard may be good to you, but if you have experience with other tints such as V-Kool, you will then have a benchmark for comparison. If the difference is significant, you can feel the difference without having a measuring device to do the measurements.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 10 2023, 08:28 AM)
my other car was with Wingard Regal which I installed back in 2015 for rm2k+. My bro in law come with V-Kool as well as my dad's old car. Yes, it is similar in performance for heat rejection as V-Kool top spec which is too expansive 10 years ago iinm vs my tint at rm900. Believe the sputter metallic materials in recent tech tint work ok on the heat rejection aspect.
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Ok good to know thanks. IF it's comparable to V-kool that is good enough because one cannot ask for more as there is a big price difference between the two. I believe V-kool is RM4k to 5k for mid-spec tint while the TotalGard would cost around RM1k to 1.7k which is less 2 to 3 times cheaper. In other words, one cannot complain too much as the TotalGard is significantly cheaper.

Can GPS navigation work with TotalGard? Did you mix Infusion Pro with Titanium Plus?
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 10 2023, 08:28 AM)

on usage, only Smart Tag won't work which I believe is due to IRR close to 99-100%. But I resolved mine with RFID.
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I believe this can be resolved by not covering the whole windscreen with the tint. The part near the rear mirror which is stuck at the top of the front windscreen, that small area can be left without the tint so you can just position the SmartTag device with your hands at that area when going through the SmartTag booth at the toll. The Huper Optik tint on my car also could not work with the electronic boom gate access card at the security guardhouse but when I position the access card at the small area near the rear mirror which does not have the tint, it will work.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 10 2023, 08:36 AM)
the GPS & Waze work, mine is Infusion Pro all windows + sunroof. only differ in the VLT selection. Price/Spec is the reason  I choose this brand back then, the next option back then is Haverkamp German brand but it already closed down iinm. Then Iris Pro cz they give degradation warranty but I choose the best price/spec back then
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Ok thanks. Not too sure if there is a difference between Infusion Pro and Titanium Plus but from the spec sheet, seems like both are very close together and may have almost similar performance or negligible differences ,and the Infusion Pro may be the best value.
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post Jul 15 2023, 04:43 PM

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Any other real life experience of Totalgard tint in comparison to V-kool or Huper Optic Sech60/C40 tints?
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post Jul 27 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 27 2023, 02:16 PM)
VKool super expensive but I believe it is still the best tint with performance drop that can last. Got 3 old cars with VKool Elite, 17 years, 15 years and 12 years. The heat resistance still worked good even up to now albeit slightly degraded. The tint also started to degrade (blurring) from year 14 onwards. Will be changing the tints. Will installed back VKool Elite, at least for the front windscreen, still the best clear tint with high heat resistance THAT can still worked with smart tag. Other high spec tints like 3M and Raytech with 70% VLT got problem with smart tag. Cost a bomb tho if you can afford it.
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Yes I believe so. I used to have V-kool Elite on one of my old cars about 16 years ago for all windscreens front, side and rear. Even though it's not the highest spec tint, the heat rejection is the best I've experienced. It costs RM3.6k back then for my C-segment sedan. I believe if going with combination of V-kool Elite for front windscreen and V-kool 55, 40, 30 or 10 for side and rear windscreens, the heat rejection performance would be even better but the cost would be higher.

Fast forward to today, I believe prices are all higher now so it might cost RM5k to 7k to do the whole car with V-kool depending on the model of tint. If you have the budget, then it's good to go with V-kool again since it is proven to be good. No risk involved as it is a gamble if you with other cheaper tints which might or might not deliver the results that you want.

I now have Huper Optik Sech60 for front windscreen and C40 for all side and rear windscreens, all done up for RM1.7k ten years ago and cannot recommend it even though it's cheaper than V-kool. I find the heat rejection of the Huper Optik to be poor even when new. After 3 years, the car felt even hotter and after 5 or 6 years, if feels like there is no more tint on the car although it's still there stuck to the windscreens.

Now, according to ayamxx the Totalgard tint is comparable in heat rejection performance to the V-kool. The Totalgard costs around RM1k vs RM6k V-kool so it may be too good to be true but there's already one case here. I don't mind if the RM1k tint does not perform as good as RM7k tint since you can't complain much for the price you are paying. However, it must not be so poor that it gives only little difference when installed on the car. The Huper Optik at RM1.7k works well too but it is inferior to V-kool and also does not last long. Not sure how the Totalgard will compare to the Huper Optik or Vkool though.

If there are anymore cases of Totalgard users here who have switched from V-kool or Huper Optik, please share your experience here.
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post Jul 27 2023, 03:34 PM

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Forgot to mention on two more disadvantages with V-kool. Firstly, I was informed that there are many fakes around so you won't know if it's fake. Secondly, the pricing is inconsistent between the outlets. If you ask around, one branch may quote you RM4k and another branch may quote you RM5k or 6k for the exact same tint.

With Huper Optik, it's more consistent as the difference in pricing between outlets is in the range of few hundred ringgit only, around RM100 to 200. With Totalgard, I believe it's a minimal difference since there are only two outlets who can install the tints, I believe.
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post Jul 27 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 27 2023, 03:38 PM)
Quoted by HQ earlier, VKool Spec VK Elite (FWS), VK50 (Front Side), VK30 (RWS, Rear Side) for Civic 4850, for CRV 5350.

Anyway, there are also tints with very good performance for first year, so super until subsequent years drop like a rock till like no tint. VK experience means heat resistance can last real long. I also reluctant to change rear windscreen coz the risk of demister torn off is also very high. So normally I try to go for the best tint, at least rear windscreen. Front windscreen also try to go for VKool Elite due to the borderline compliancy (appx 70 to 71% with 3mm glass). Others can change more frequently if needed to. Also the nice greenish hue colouring for VK even 17 years, still there.
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Thanks for the info on the pricing of the V-kool. Your combination looks ideal, Elite for front, 50 for front side and 30 for rear side and rear. So it is RM5350 for large SUV. I wonder if it will be the same for smaller SUV such as HRV or Toyota Corolla Cross. RM5k+ is a lot of money to pay these days but you pay for the quality and performance.

Yes, agreed on the nice greenish hue of the V-kool. I like this calming effect of the greenish hue of the V-kool. The Huper optik is brownish and does not feel as soothing as the V-kool. Not sure what hue are the other tints like.

Perhaps it is useful for tint manufacturers to publish the hue of their tints in the spec sheet so people would know.

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 27 2023, 11:55 PM)
Thatโ€s the biggest factor that puts me off V-kool. After my trusted installer retired and sold his business, I canโ€™t find a single V-kool installer that inspires confidence. Some outlets have frontline (reception girl) staff that donโ€™t even know the product theyโ€™re selling, the โ€œbossโ€ is always too busy to attend to you and they just donโ€™t seems as skilled.ย  

Pricing inconsistencies between branches is also a huge turnoff. I suspect itโ€™s worse here in JB since everyone and his dog claims to be an โ€œauthorizedโ€ V-kool, SolarGard, 3M or Xpel installer (they all claim theyโ€™re also the exclusive agents in JB, lol) in order to con Singaporeans.

Frankly, if someone quoted me RM5k+ for any of those brands, Iโ€™ll just tell them that Iโ€™d rather top up another RM5k and drive to PJ to install Spectra Photosync IRD instead. If Iโ€™m gonna pay mad prices, might as well go full Mad Max. laugh.gif
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So you are based in JB. Is your negative perception of V-kool installers solely on the outlets in JB, or throughout Malaysia including Klang Valley or KL? I'm not sure about the quality of authorised V-kool installers here in Klang Valley or PJ, whether they are a rip-off or worthy consideration. Anyway, since the new car purchase is delayed, I won't need to make the decision so soon and have plenty of time to decide. biggrin.gif

Totalgard RM1k (claimed to be comparable to V-Kool heat rejection performance) vs V-kool RM5k+. Big difference in pricing.

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post Jul 28 2023, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 28 2023, 03:55 PM)
Honestly, here in JB, I have negative perception or 90% of installers, whatever the brand. If itโ€™s a small-time Tan Ah Beng selling <RM1K package maybe I can close one eye, but a lot of these โ€œestablished brandโ€ shops seem just as incompetent and dishonest.

Visited SolarGard so called โ€œofficialโ€ store a week ago and was quoted RM4.5k for whole car. Everything she told me was copy-paste from SolarGard website, just translated to Mandarin (cannot speak English* when selling international brand is another red flag for me). She didnโ€™t know shit about TSER. Couldnโ€™t give me concrete reply if they could re-attach my front/rear dashcams after installation. Said her boss was busy when I asked for him. Basically, if I could describe their customer services in two words, it would be โ€œfucking uselessโ€. This is just an example. Not singling this particular shop out because a lot of tinting businesses here behave in the same way.

*but still has some fancy lalamui western name on her name card, lol

Whatโ€™s laughable is that, when the โ€œAh Boyโ€ near my house can guarantee me rear demister will not be damaged when removing factory tint (so much so that he said he will bear cost of replacement rear window if he gets it wrong), how can the so called โ€œestablishedโ€ installers not offer that same guarantee? They keep trying to show me certificates on their wall. Hello, I can also show you a dozen different phd I bought from Indonesian and Philippine universities. Means I real doctor ka?

Last time I tinted in KV region was many years ago, when there were less fakes, installers were less dishonest, and prices were less insane. Cannot comment about current day scene there.

Regarding Totalgard - I had a conversation with Marn a few days ago, and he was extremely helpful. The guy knows his product. I actually have some respect for this company because they used to bring in Sahara X (which I have positive experience with) back in the day, until they went their own way with manufacturing Totalgard locally, so basically the expertise is there. Sadly, they donโ€™t have authorized/official installers here in JB. Marn did forward me a couple of shops that buy wholesale from Totalgard but offer their own tint packages (and pricing), but one of them wasnโ€™t operating at the level I felt comfortable with while the other only specialized in buildings. This is not a knock on Totalgard since itโ€™s out of their control (theyโ€™re primarily wholesalers, after all), so if itโ€™s convenient for you on a logistical level, I suggest visiting their place in Kepong to at least hear what they have to say.
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I can share your grief. ๐Ÿ˜ Similarly I don't have much patience when dealing with people who are clueless about the things they are talking about especially products they are promoting or selling.

Totalgard is already at the top in my shortlist. Unfortunately not many people here have tried it therefore there
Is no review on the product other than ayamxx's.
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post Jul 28 2023, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Totalgard @ Jul 10 2023, 09:07 AM)
Hi Sir, Marn here if you really need to know more about our product feel free to contact me at +6012-5596013. Please bear in mind even our top range product does not cost more than RM1.5K. You also can come directly at our HQ in Kepong for heat rejection testing. Below is our location:

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47, Lorong Kuang Bulan, Taman Kepong, 52100 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur
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May I ask what is the hue/colour of Totalgard's tint. Is it black/grey, brown, blue or green.
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QUOTE(widget @ Jul 31 2023, 11:39 AM)
Why don't you just go for VK40 all around?
I'm using VK40 for FWS for 3 years already (although changed to new tint in March from windscreen replacement) and quite pleased with the performance
As the above comment, for VKool tint, the darker the tint, the more expensive it becomes
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The VLT for VK40 is 40% if I'm not mistaken? If that's the case it is too dark already for the front windscreen. For me, I would try to keep it at 75% as much as possible. With V-kool Elite, although the VLT is 75% is it excellent. The performance is better than the Huper Optik Sech60 where the VLT is 59%. In other words, the Huper Optik is crap really since the darker VLT 59% actually feels hotter than the brighter V-kool Elite VLT 75%.
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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 31 2023, 08:44 PM)
Already made an appointment for IrisPro โ€“ Diamond 60 for front windshield and front side, Diamond 30 for rear and boot โ€“ on Wednesday. Total RM2.8k. Will report back after a few days of use. Recently tinted our company office glass with this brand and the performance has been great, so fingers crossed the experience with their automotive line films will be similar.
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QUOTE(xkaizoku @ Aug 1 2023, 12:57 PM)
interesting, waiting for your review hahah

diamond 60 means your front windshield not within jpj spec right? your state jpj dont bother to catch is it
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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Aug 1 2023, 08:26 PM)

Usually they let you off if they can see your face. If not, just be polite about it and tell them that in this weather sticking to 70% โ€œtak boleh hidup lah bangโ€ and they will close one eye most of the time.

TL;DR = โ€œKalau dia boleh nampak you punya muka suda boleh lahโ€ as most of the tint installers will tell us laugh.gif
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Interesting you went with Irispro. RM2.8k is in between Totalgard ~RM1k (claimed comparable to V-kool's performance) and V-kool RM4k-5k.

Just a note on VLT for front windscreen. I share the same sentiment as dev/numb. In my view, as long as it is not too dark ie. people can see your faces rather clearly when they look at the windscreen when standing outside of the vehicle, that is all that matters. I am guessing most if not all cars will fail the 75% VLT test even though the tint is claimed to have 75% or 76% VLT since the original windscreen may not be 100% VLT. Also, there isn't any JPJ or police roadblock for more than 10 years already here in Klang Valley specifically to nab culprits which go overboard on dark tints.

For me, a VLT of about 60% is still acceptable. My car which is on Huper Optik Sech 60 has a VLT of 59% and it's still not too bad. Anything below 50% VLT is considered dark already. My friend has VLT 40% on his front windscreen and he did not have an issues since there is lack of enforcement. However, I wouldn't go too dark as below 50% VLT mainly to prevent any unnecessary problems should there be a roadblock by JPJ/police in the future specifically to check on tints. They won't be checking the vehicle one by one if there is a road block. They will only stop vehicles where they can't look at the faces clearly. Secondly is during night time driving. Darker tints may affect night time driving to some extent which is unsafe.
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QUOTE(xkaizoku @ Aug 3 2023, 11:59 AM)
here in kuching sarawak, roadblocks are common. mostly catch those without road tax and those tinted black black get stopped at the road side

surprised klang valley is not strict with tints considering the new rules 70% and 50% VLT was implemented only few years ago
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I see. I've only been to Kuching once many years ago. Not sure about the conditions there but here in Klang Valley more than 10 years I have not encountered any JPJ/police operation on tints. That may be one reason there are many car owners who chose to go below VLT 50% for front windscreen. You won't be surprised if you see some cars where you completely cannot see the faces of the front passengers sitting inside the car where the VLT for front and front side windscreens are probably 20% or lower. Looks like VIP or gangsters cars where the windscreens are completely dark even for front side windscreens. OF course you can't do that to front windscreen as you need to look at the road when you are driving but that too I noticed some cars have very dark tints on the front windscreen. It's quite common here mainly due to lack of enforcement.

About 15 or 20 years ago when there was some operation going on to catch vehicles with dark tints, that too was rather rare. I think I only went through 1 or 2 road blocks only where JPJ/police check the tints on vehicles throughout my 30+ years driving experience.
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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Aug 10 2023, 01:29 PM)
Price is RM2800, which includes removal of crapshit factory tint. Turns out stripping the rear tailgate film is quite time-consuming because they need to do it very slowly in order not to damage demister lines.
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Just curious, it's not possible to request the "Premium solar tint" on the Corolla Cross to be omitted right?

Lastly, is it not a good idea to install the tint on top of the original tint at the rear windscreen just to prevent any potential damage to the demister lines?

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Aug 10 2023, 04:29 PM)
Not possible. Included in the price.

As for your second question, see below.
If you were me and saw the quality of application for the factory tint, you would also remove it first. It was terrible. There were dust specks and smudges all over. One section even had a clear fingerprint mark (meaning factory installer didnโ€™t even wear gloves). The fingerprint was so clear that I could probably scan it, commit a crime and frame that incompetent installer. laugh.gif
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I thought so. It is unfortunate that the included tint brings more harm than good. It is just unlucky that there are fingerprint marks on the tint. I wonder if this is typical for all Corolla Cross that come with this lousy tint. I presume complaints on the tint to Toyota will likely fall on deaf ears and nothing much can be done. Perhaps a crony company hired to install the tint.

If the tint on the rear windscreen does not show any bad quality workmanship or fingerprint marks, I might be inclined to leave it as is and do double layer there since 10% chance of damaging it no matter how low is still there. Will see how it goes. For all other windscreens it is wise to remove existing tint and install new one. I recall asking this question many years ago and similar reason that the thicker layers of double tint might cause problems when the windscreen goes up and down, damaging the motor that moves the windscreen up and down due to additional friction and weight, something like that.

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Aug 14 2023, 11:26 AM)
Downsides are that my condo entry card reader doesnโ€™t work,
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Does the tint cover the whole front windscreen of your mum's Corolla Cross? With my existing car, the top portion of the windscreen where the rear mirror is located does not have the tint. The RFID card also can't work at the guardhouse if I place it behind the tint. But if I put the RFID card at the location near the rear mirror where there's no tint there just like in the image below, the card will work and the barrier of the electronic boom gate will go up.

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