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post Sep 17 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(di88di @ Sep 16 2018, 03:17 PM)
Hi everyone, i recently bought a new proton saga and my SA offered me HO car tinting package which cost RM1900 and he said i just have to pay him RM600, and thr rest he will absorb. Please advice ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™
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You tell him you will choose your own package at HO for equal or less than RM1900, and pay only RM600. Ask him to kowtim with the shop. See what he says.
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QUOTE(m3tabolic515 @ Sep 15 2018, 11:33 AM)
Sifu and friends, I just got my New Persona and would like to add another layer if tint and I'm living in Penang Island, can someone recommend me a good good tint shop? Many thanks..
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You might want to state your budget and preferred brand, if any.
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post Sep 19 2018, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(sonicmaster @ Sep 18 2018, 11:09 PM)
Do you know the price for 3m tints offer by them?
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3M only has 2 authorised applicators on Penang island.
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post Sep 19 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(sonicmaster @ Sep 19 2018, 08:51 AM)
One is Crystal point but I'm not sure where is another one
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Worldtech at Anson Road.

The one at Krystal Point is located at corner shop lot which also does car detailing...STE or something like that.

Only these 2 authorised applicators can give you e-warranty, based on what 3M office people told me when I called to clarify.
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post Oct 16 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Oct 15 2018, 05:17 PM)
How to know if the tint is genuine or not? Im using crystalline 50 for front. I noticed some heat coming from front, whereas my side windows seems to be just fine (side using crystalline scotchschield 40). So whenever im driving, often i can feel the heat right onto my face. Anther funny thing is that, everywhere i go, ppl would say 3m cannot pass thru smart tag. And after a month, i just realize my car can pass through smart tag despite having crystalline (all this while i put my smart tag at the opening non tinted side of the windshield). Im using the old big white color smart tag BTW.
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Do the water droplet test. The water droplets will have reddish hue. I find the fws reddish water droplets are less obvious, presumably due to the angle of the fws and higher VLT.
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post Oct 16 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Oct 16 2018, 09:03 PM)
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Thanks for the feedbacks. So i guess it is normal for 3M crystalline to feel such heat from the FWS. Im quite tall, so my distance from FWS is quite far when im driving. Hmm.. i didnt experience this on my other car using other brand of tint.

Anyway, i agreed with you that the car cool down quite fast when parked under the hot sun.
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It should feel a tad hotter but not very much hotter than your side windows, especially if you're using Crystalline 60 for fws. I'm using Crystalline 60 for fws too, without the dark strip at the top of fws.

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Oct 30 2018, 06:30 PM)
To those 3M Crystalline 70 users,

is your 3M Crystalline 70 got this effect?  hmm.gif

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Yes, only the fws is not that obvious. But the reddish hue is definitely there.
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:27 AM

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I wish to highlight something based on my experience. The driving visibility issue depends on the tint film. My current car is tinted with 3M crystalline 60 for fws, and the driving visibility at night is still very much acceptable, compared to my previous cap ayam tint with about the same VLT. For daytime driving I wish it was darker, especially on NSE. So, I am wondering what film the installer uses to cause him to worry about driving visibility.
Do note that to get 100% JPJ compliance tint of 70%VLT for fws, you will need to use a tint with much higher VLT, say, 90%, because the windscreen usually does not have 100% VLT to begin with. With such high VLT, it's more difficult to find a film with good TSER.

For the side windows, do you intend to choose a VLT 30 film, or you want the final tinted window glass to have VLT of 30%? Either way, one look can tell that the front windows won't pass the requirement and you can still be stopped.

QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2018, 10:47 AM)
I'm looking for a tint for my new car (civic). I have a RM500 Raytech voucher but based on my research in this forum it appears there is middling feedback towards Raytech.

My main criteria for the tint are:
1. Heat rejection
2. GPS must be usable

I don't really care too much about how much light it lets through, but I do wish it is JPJ-compliant which means all the 30 and 40% talked about here are probably off the cards.

What brands and variants should I be looking at?

I see lots of discounts on Fave even for 3M. Are these dealers reputable? I don't have a budget per se, just hoping to get a tint that fits just requirements above and can last a long time. If pressed, I guess my budget can be 1.5-2k. Max 2.5k but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
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The bold statement is contradicting itself. You either don't care about VLT which opens up a whole lot of choice for you, or you go for compliance which affects heat rejection.
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wilson_0618 @ Nov 28 2018, 01:02 AM)
As I have mentioned earlier, the PIC stated in the phone that they don't have the tester until I go their shop directly , have been going there for at least 2 times, Useless until the last time, after I complaint to the car seller, she pass me the PIC number to contact her directly.. but it is hard to describe in short here..
And I am not using 3M tint, can I still complain to 3M Malaysia ??
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There is no harm trying to contact 3M, but I don't think they will entertain you.

It's like you bought a defective Brand A item from an authorised dealer of Brand B, and you go to complain about it at Malaysia HQ/main distributor of Brand B because the authorised dealer does not entertain you.
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post Dec 2 2018, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 2 2018, 11:46 AM)
Yeah I figured that TSER and VLT are closely related. But I wish to minimize the TSER while keeping to JPJ compliant VLTs. But reading your post now you're saying that for it to be compliant the VLT of the tint must be 90% which implies that the FWS that come with the car themselves have VLT of about 80% already. I didn't know that.

How are so many people so brazenly willing to flout the VLT rules? Aren't you guys concerned that you will get pulled up, issued with a summons, have your tint torn down?
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I'm not saying the film's VLT must be always > 90% to pass JPJ's requirement for fws. All I'm saying is the original windscreen itself does not give you 100 VLT as it does block some light from going through. How much light it blocks out depends on your car. I observe that most conti cars have rather dark windscreens to begin with.
I suppose it's to do with the hot sun we have here and to a certain extent, lack of enforcement as our cars do not have to undergo periodic inspections. Mind you, in our negara jiran which mandates periodic inspection, you can also find unapproved tinting there.

I once asked for a JPJ-compliant tint from a tint shop - kena teased by the shop owner.

QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 2 2018, 03:07 PM)
thanks for the explanation

anyway i might consider these instead:

huper optik = 60/40/40

haverkamp = 70/40/40
meaning to say 60 for FWS is like the most optimal already for good driving experience at night?

if go lets say like 50% VLT then its defintely gonna mess with the view? hmm.gif
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As written, I think it depend on the type of film used, in addition to the VLT. Perhaps low quality film will give poorer visual clarity at night?

I would think the optimal darkness is 70% after tinting - that's why JPJ states this requirement. Whether anything lower that it is optimal to individuals is subjective, as we all have different visual acuity and preference, especially at night.

Example: I was once provided with a rental car with bad ass tinting, it was so dark that the headlights were seen throwing yellow light (similar to those old school yellow foglamps) when viewed from inside the car. To park in a shopping centre car park, I had to wind down the front windows in order to see properly.
When asked, the rental car company told me their customers requested for such tint, and the customers love it.
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QUOTE(luvox @ Dec 15 2018, 01:13 PM)
Anyone tint their panoramic sunroof? Should tint?
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If you open the shade only at night, no need. If you open the shade in daytime, to tint or not depends on how much sunburn you like.


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post Dec 27 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(exeon @ Dec 26 2018, 10:26 AM)
Anyone? Or is this thread for premium tints only? rclxub.gif
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Or perhaps there is no answer to your question?


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QUOTE(exeon @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
What I mean was rm400 tint also has many different types, I'm just asking whether there's any tint has decent quality among all varies within that price range or not, who knows rm400 can find a good shop with good workmanship that's offering decent tint for that price? You can't expect everyone have to apply tint with price rm1000 above, not everyone has that budget, and with low budget doesn't mean have no choices, which is why there's low end products. Don't be so sarcastic dear riche notworthy.gif
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Did I not write: maybe there is no answer to your question on RM400 tint?

You have a low budget, I get it. You have your choice, but your best choice, IMO, is to stick sunshades from Mr. DIY. They'd do a better job at lower price and when they peel or become blur, you can replace them. Clear now? Why so sensitive?


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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 27 2018, 11:18 AM)
What do you expect to get from RM400 tint? I'd just put on Mr. DIY sunshades if I were you.
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This post kena reported, lol.
So pls let me re-answer so that Mr. Snowflake feels better.

There are plenty of tint job costing <RM400. You can walk in any shop to ask.
Don't be foolish to pay > RM1500 for a tint job, because the films are all the same and you are just paying for the brand.
These cheap tint films do not discolour, do not peel off, do not cause orange peel effect, and they last as long, if not longer than those expensive films. So, you need not worry about poor driving visibility when the other tint films start to spoil.
Also, these cheap films really have good IRR.
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QUOTE(I'm V-Kool @ Dec 30 2018, 09:26 PM)
This just think the opposite way will do.
Sometimes consumer have limited budget so they opt for lower end and
they tend to not complain much compare to the branded/good which consumer pay thosand to install
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It's like someone asking, "please can anyone recommend me a car that costs RM5,000?". And he gets worked up and accuses you of insulting him when you ask him what he expects from an RM5,000 car, and then suggest he gets a motorcycle because it makes more financial sense to you.

Is it a crime to have low budget? Why so sensitive?


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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 1 2019, 09:09 AM)
Any seller for front windscreen tint only?
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Are you looking for best offers here, or are you asking whether installers provide tinting for just the fws?

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 1 2019, 11:37 AM)
Hi, best offer all in. Mean including installation. The original tint failed in windscreen during puspakom name change. Rest window ok pass.
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It will be good to include your budget and your expectation. You see, budget can be a sensitive issue tongue.gif
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QUOTE(justinwong85 @ Jan 6 2019, 09:57 PM)
Dear sifu
I'm using Llumatr gold tint for front and back while diamond for security on side for 5 years +

I find my car scorching hot under sun especially the tint on the front and back but not side. Sometime it makes me wonder if I'm getting a fake Llumar despite installing it at authorize center at uptown last time. It's 2k+ if not wrong, but seriously I doubt I will be going back to that brand

Only realizes this after sitting in my friends car same model but different tint. And every one who sits in my car after hot sun sure complaint as if my car aircon is damaged. But checked at workshop, aircon is normal and it's very cold at night

Need some advise, probably looking at front and back windscreen tint replacement that is effective yet smart tag can go thru without violating jpj

Any advise dear expert?
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How did you come to the conclusion highlighted in bold? If you are saying the top of the dashboard feels much hotter than the sides of the window (where Ah Bengs rest their ciggie-holding arms), then there are a few possible reasons from a layman's pov.

1. The angle and huge size of windscreen makes it easier for direct sun to hit the interior of the car, compared to the side of windows
2. VLT for windscreen is usually higher, which makes for lower TSER.
3. The TSER for the Llumar for your car may be lower than the tint in our friend's car. You didn't state the brand, model and VLT of your friend's tint.
4. IIRC, Llumar has a few variants, so you might have picked the lower range?
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QUOTE(justinwong85 @ Jan 7 2019, 11:03 AM)
as far as I can tell, this is the range I'm using for diamond 6 for sides:
VLT 63%
TSER 59%
IR Rejected 97%
UV Rejected 99%
Break Strength 181 lb/inch
Tensile Strength 32,000 lb/inch2
Puncture Strength 111 lb
Thickness 6 mil (150 micron)
Warranty 10 Years
Color Green

Windscreen - Gold tint:
VLT 63%
TSER 43%
IR Rejected 93%
UV Rejected 99%
Warranty 7 Years
Color Green

Reference: http://www.tintauto.com.my/products/?pr=automotive

Yes - i'm comparing newer alternative product around (as well as their spec) to see which are the replacement next

In regards to the bold which you've highlighted - I'm stating that against the average car which I've sat in - on what I feel, compared to the tint I'm having smile.gif
Anyway, you don't have to pick on the words

It's completely true that the TSER for my windscreen tint is very low indeed

Time to look for an upgrade / replacement
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, ya. Please forgive me for trying to find out more information and understanding your situation so that I can try to give my opinion for a question you posed.
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QUOTE(macabre221 @ Jan 12 2019, 12:01 PM)
Hi sifus,
I need some advice.
If this has been discussed before or there is other thread do guide me correctly.

I plan to change my existing car tint. Only concern I have at this moment is will peeling of old tint damage defroster line?
I had asked 2-3 shops (different brands of tint) and their responses are risky & no warranty. As summary they wont guarantee if the system dont work after do new tint installation. I guess this is normal response as they want to safe guard themselves.

By the way my car is Honda Civic year 2015. Took it on Jan 2016, with tint job done by Advance I Tint (the particular Honda dealerโ€™s supplier).

Reason I would want to change are due to the tint start to peel of itself and want better heat rejection tint.
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Usually no issues. It's normal to hear the disclaimer. I'd do the same if I were the shop owner.

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