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Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread [V2], Motion & Emotion
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SKYjack
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Mar 19 2014, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Mar 19 2014, 12:56 PM) yes. when the car comes off the assembly line i think. this is to prevent over revving or aggressive driving before delivery. but should be deactivated before delivery to customer. Yes it is a factory installed protection. However the ECU should be re programmed for normal operation prior delivery. Looks like someone was sleeping on the job! This post has been edited by SKYjack: Mar 19 2014, 01:26 PM
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SKYjack
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Mar 19 2014, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 19 2014, 11:51 AM) Addicted? More like attraction. I dah kena 2 dried meat in 4 months period. But all PDRM, not AES. Fatal attraction!!! Already kena twice,both also PDRM!
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SKYjack
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Mar 20 2014, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(daniellee84 @ Mar 20 2014, 09:25 AM) PD - love the highway that leads to it (once you exit NSE). But be careful cos got policeman squatting there in the middle of the road in between the dividers right after the speedtrap warning signboard. I was speeding there last weekend but i think he was looking at his phone instead of the camera gun, but we shall see! I actually like the old twisty PD road. This where you can try out Pugs superb road holding pushing it at the bends. The car handles like a sports car,forgot it was a sedan until I stopped and got out.
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SKYjack
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Mar 21 2014, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(chaostan @ Mar 21 2014, 08:50 AM) Hi wanna know if Peugeot 408 THP coming out any facelift this year? I think NAZA will milk Griffe first and then for sure the facelift!
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SKYjack
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Mar 22 2014, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(k.t @ Mar 21 2014, 10:04 PM) 2.0 NA. The sound is like the starter giving sound.. And the another sound is the 'tepet' sound.. like the engine is not loaded with engine oil..  I'm not sure if the NA uses timing chain. On cold starts,chain tends to sound loud a bit. Then when it gets lubricated after a few seconds of starting,the sound disappears.
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SKYjack
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Mar 28 2014, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(a-hp @ Mar 27 2014, 11:36 PM) Hi 408 owners. Count me in. Have been driven a white 408NA for a month. Use to drive a silver Ford Focus 2.0 (sedan) for 5 years. Happy (very actually) with the lion that has taken me for 2100 km. Soon will go to Ipoh SC for 2.5k inspection. Thanks to all that have posted their knowledge, thoughts and experience in this online community of 408 as it has been one of my major references before decided to test drive the lion and finally bought one. The new FF is quite highly regarded. It is certainly a big improvement from the previous FF. Interested to know why you chose Pug instead of the new FF.
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SKYjack
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Mar 29 2014, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(a-hp @ Mar 28 2014, 12:25 PM) skyjack, thanks for your curiosity as you are not the first one to raise that particular issue. 1. in today's economy, I certainly tried to find ways to cut some expenditures. choosing 408 over FF is one of them. kids are growing up. 2. The space of 408 is slightly bigger than my previous FF, way bigger than the new FF and I don't have any interest on MPV. Make no mistake about it though, even if Japanese or Korean brands gave the discount as much as Pug, or they have bigger space as the Pug, I won't choose them to replace FF - I would still be driving it. I see, you enjoy driving plus cater for the family. I think you have made a very wise choice. Well done bro! My 1st choice was the FF TDCI. Was very disappointed when the TDCI was dropped on the new models. My next ride will definitely be a turbo diesel.
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SKYjack
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Mar 30 2014, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Mar 28 2014, 11:20 PM) any sifus here can explain what is all the engine oil code mean?? Like 5w50, 5w30. What does all that mean? And how come in our service book, it is recomended to use 5w30 and not 5w50 (higher better isnt it?). Thank you. It's all to do with viscosity of oil. Viscosity is a name given to the oils tendency to flow , and indicated by numbers. Higher the number,thinner the oil. Thin oil flows freely, if too freely will lose lube protection value. Thick oil does not flow freely,but if it does not get into minute clearances, lube protection is also lost. Thus the oil has to be thin enough to flow quickly into very tiny clearances and at the same time thick enough to provide adequate lube protection. A chemical called polymer is added to oil to provide protection for both thin and thick situations. Polymer allows the oil to flow freely when cold and prevents the oil from thinning out when hot. The manufacturer decides which oil grade provide the best protection for the engine. Recommended for our engine is 5W-30. What it means is that when cold the viscosity is at 5 and when heated the viscosity is at 30. We are not so concerned about the 5 cos it caters for cold climates. At our climatic condition we are concerned with the second number. Beyond 30 the oil starts to get thin and may not provide adequate lube protection.
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SKYjack
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Mar 30 2014, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Mar 30 2014, 07:23 PM) Noted the recommended lubricant for NA is semi-synthetic 10W-40 or synthetic 5W-40 as per maintenance book. Noted the SC (Sg besi and puchong) is using syntium 1000 15W-50. Is that okay? Other NA owners, you guys using the similar grade? Actually the book does not recommend Semi Syn or Fully Syn. It will recommend the grade. You should insist on the recommended grade.
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SKYjack
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Mar 31 2014, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Mar 31 2014, 11:34 AM) Any comments or ideas on the brand for engine oil and transmission fluid??? Torco and Motul?? Or is it more or less the same?? Thanks... My preference is AMSOIL for engine & GB. Unfortunately our hands are tied by warranty! If I keep the car beyond 5 years,then will surely change to AMSOIL.
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SKYjack
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Apr 1 2014, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Mar 31 2014, 08:32 PM) Amsoil ehh....Hmmm...Actually i have always thought engine and gb oil is a generic item....As long as u get the recomended grade...its all good.....Mana tau got soooooo many types...and each type claims to be better than another....worst still, got different category some more...Normal and racing... "-_- True, there are so many engine oils in the market. The oils are not generic. Each oil company does their own extensive R & D and each have their own special additive. Some engines are so sensitive that they require a certain additive. For example on EP6CDT engines,it better to use Total cos of low ash content. These engines tend to build carbon prematurely. Fortunately our engine (EP6CDTM) has been modified and is able to run on most brands. I've tried a few in my previous cars and have decided AMSOIL or Esso fully syn to be my choice. I've found my engine runs cooler,quieter and smoother on AMSOIL. Of course there is no hard rule,the choice is yours.
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SKYjack
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Apr 1 2014, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(a-hp @ Mar 31 2014, 11:05 PM) Since our hands are tied, may I know what brand the SCs are using? As far as I am aware Peugeot SCs use Sytium or Total.
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SKYjack
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Apr 1 2014, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(mtbk3 @ Apr 1 2014, 09:32 AM) So if what you post is true. Then why are we still recommended to use 5w-30?? We should be using 5W-50 since it will offer the most protection during engine operating temperature. *confused* Thanks.... I can understand your confusion. Here's something for you to consider. Thickest oil available does not provide the best protection. If it did,then use greese,that is like jellow. That's where the problem is,does jellow flow freely. We need oil to flow freely within tiny tiny clearances and provide lubrication regardless to cold or hot conditions. Thicker oil does increase FC. The engine has to work harder to overcome the additional resistance. In general, less wear and tear with thicker oil,thinner oil accelerates wear & tear. Where there isn't any recommendations, it is fine to follow this general statement. However Peugeot recommends 5W-30. This is the grade for best lube protection and good FC. IMO after warranty,even when i change to AMSOIL,i will stick to 5W-30 grade. My 2cents worth,no hard and fast rule.
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SKYjack
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Apr 2 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Mar 31 2014, 11:55 PM) Below 30 is thin, above 30 is thick Got pro n con if using 30 n 40 You are right,higher the number thicker the oil.
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SKYjack
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Apr 2 2014, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(a-hp @ Apr 2 2014, 12:55 PM) I once heard that thicker oil is for smaller engine capacity. Apart from that, fully synthetic is not recommended for smaller engine i.e 1.3 & below. Any thoughts? Both statements are not true. High performance engines need specific grades and it will be recommended by manufacturer. On my wifes Myvi I've tried full syn and semi syn. The 1.3 engine ran smoother and cooler with full syn and extremely good FC on long dist. drive. However I've switched back to semi syn. This is cos of it's small sump. No matter how good the oil,it still gets contaminated with combustion by products. With a small sump the concentration level of contaminants is high. Therefore it is healthier for the engine to do more frequent oil changes. I figure it better to have shorter change oil intervals.
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SKYjack
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Apr 2 2014, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(ghost007 @ Apr 2 2014, 12:51 PM) To me , Petrol Canada is the best engine oil, try it , 5 W - 30 , very smooth, very powerful Bro you are not worried about warranty void aah? These buggers are damn sticky. Even if you use space shuttle oil,they will void warranty no matter how superior it may be!
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SKYjack
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Apr 3 2014, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Ladbrokes88 @ Apr 3 2014, 08:45 AM) Dear Sifus, My coolant reservoir indicate lower than MIN. Warning sign ask to top up coolant. Can i just top up with cold water instead? or i have to send to service centre? current mileage 25k. You can topup with water this time. However I suggest you buy a bottle of coolant for future topups. Coolant runs the engine cooler plus has anti rust additives. By topping with water the additive is diluted. At the moment you might only need about a cup,which is fine. I've noticed 408t's coolant needs to be topped up every 4-5 months once. If topup with water all the time,then the anti rust additive will be depleted. I don't trust SC topup,cos they might use water and most customers will not know !
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SKYjack
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Apr 3 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(Ladbrokes88 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:57 AM) Thank you very much sifu SKYjack!! Appreciate your advice!!  You are most welcome bro,enjoy your Lion!
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SKYjack
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Apr 3 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 3 2014, 12:23 AM) What is your take on this development? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Following its capital tie-up with China's Dongfeng Motor Group, PSA Peugeot Citroen has announced that it will create a new joint research and development centre in China to develop new products for emerging markets like South East Asia. Presently, the PSA group already operates its China Tech Center (CTC) in Shanghai, the company's first R&D and design centre outside of Europe. The new joint R&D centre with Dongfeng is likely to be located in Shanghai as well and will focus on joint development of platforms, shared use and procurement of parts. Under a new capital tie-up inked on 26-March, Dongfeng and the French government will each take a 14 percent stake in PSA Peugeot Citroen. The Peugeot family will also reduce their stake from 25 percent to 14 percent. The capital tie-up aims to boost the fortunes of the Peugeot and Citroen brand, as well as Dongfeng's own Feng Shen brand. A report by Japan's Nikkei adds that the tie-up will pair Peugeot's design capabilities and technologies with Dongfeng's cost-competitive procurement network. Together, the two partners intend to develop new cars targeted at consumers from Southeast Asia, China and other emerging markets. It also adds that the first resulting product from the new partnership will be low-priced small cars, and that the company plans to release one new model every year for each of the three brands: Peugeot, Citroen and Feng Shen. At the moment, both PSA Peugeot Citroen has only one model aimed at emerging markets - the 301 sedan and its sister car the Citroen C-Elysee. PSA Peugeot Citroen has also announced that it will setup a new joint venture company to promote exports of Peugeot, Citroen and Feng Shen branded vehicles in Southeast Asia and possibly in other emerging markets. The company aims to sell 1.5 million cars globally in 2020. The direct involvement of Dongfeng, which started as a local partner for PSA Peugeot Citroen in China in 1992, into the affairs of its former brand principal is certainly raising many eyebrows within the industry. As if the relationship is not complicated enough, Dongfeng is also a local partner for Nissan, Honda and Kia in China.
Source : livelifedrive
 Peugeot has been faced with years of loss and money problems. I believe they have tied up with GM last year. This collaboration with Dong Feng appears to be geared to develop new line of small cars for Asia. Good to hear PSA developing new line of cars. The Chinese have deep pockets. Whilst it sounds good I am skeptical a little at least. My concerns are on standards. Standards of safety may be lower in Asia than Europe. I'm certainly not saying the cars will be unsafe. What is the yardstick of safety,is my concern. Good example is the 408. This car was primally developed for the China market. A detailed scrutiny indicates a lower yardstick of standards. There are a few issues. One lowering of standard is the non use of protective cover at the bottom of engine bay. This will not be an acceptable standard in Europe. Like this there are several issues that will not be considered acceptable standards.
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SKYjack
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Apr 3 2014, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(Ladbrokes88 @ Apr 3 2014, 11:44 AM) Top up with water and drove to CSL. Waterpump leaked. Luckily under warranty. What is the reason for that to happen? Only 25k mileage .. Your car is only a few months old. You already had a coolant min level warning. What that tells me is that you had a leaky water pump in the 1st place and was leaking for some time. Leaky water pump on a new car is QC issue. I'm sure after the fix,your lion will be roaring away!
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