Ops, ps. What I meant is they don't have the paint for my color code. It's 0204 - soft lilac 2 more days turns 1 month old.
You should touch up the area, especially on the metal panel, to prevent from metal rusting. Even though it does not look good, it does serve its purpose, which is rust prevention.
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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 20 2014, 10:38 PM)
ya, that guy said left Primer layer only, won't rust yet but with no protection. Will find the paint and fix it a.s.a.p.
While digging on the web, found this
dunno real or not, but if it's true, useful on those light scratches at the door handles. RM20 include postage.
Look too good to be true for me. From video alone we are unable to judge whether those are really scratches or just white color paint. If it is the later than any marker pen will sufficiently to wipe it out. Whether it is a snake oil or true genius product I have no idea but hey, just RM20 I think worth to give it a try. I think I saw such thing before in Ace Hardware. Not sure is same brand or not.
Try it on an inconspicuous area first like under skirt, under bumper, under wheel well.
What is the paint ? Light Metallic like Gold and Silver is the easier to maintain vs Dark Metallic and Solid colour
The pain in putting a successful, beautiful touch up paint. These are two opposite property of the light color and dark color car. Dark color car, easy to show up swirl, scratch, dirt. Light color car hide swirl, scratch and dirt very well.
But when come to put on some touch up paint, light color car is very difficult to have a perfect or imperceptible repair. But dark color car can hide this imperfection easily.
Anybody here goes to Carnauba Autospa in Glenmarie? Heard they provide very good car care and detailing services. Pricey?
For so many times I pass through this building, I only see Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini parks there. The least luxury cars I seen there are Benz, BMW, VW, all top class series, no VW polo. Base on this information, guess-estimate the price yourself.
But this detailing shop carries good reputation of delicate workmanship. So I guess you are getting what you paid for, but the question is can you get similar workmanship from a cheaper alternative.
Look forward to hear you sharing your experience after detailing there. Take pic please.
It's been fun reading from V1 to V3. Many information gather. Newbies checking in. To the otai otai, have you guys heard before Wellson brand? Is a Japanese products. Google high and low for a review but only a few appear. Wellson PS coat that claim 1 year of durability.
Never heard before. Show us your user experience please. But Japan indeed has a lot of great stuffs for detailing. The only problem is they are all printed in Japanese, which is why it does not get so popular in other country who communicate in English. Guess I need to learn Japanese Language 101. Watching Naruto only taught me few terms which is completely irrelevant to detailing. Korea too has great stuff. But then, only printed in Korean. To understand the user manual is already headache, let alone discuss it.
btw, Otai Otai means?
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Hi guys is waxing can be done everytime whenever I like? Or it will damage the surface? Also what is the recommended time to do another waxing session after the 1st one? I guessing a few months?
If you are using pure wax, i.e. non-abrasive content wax, be it synthetic (i.e. sealant) or natural wax (i.e. carnauba wax), then as KrisMas bro has said, you can do it as often as you like.
If you accidentally trap hard particle between the applicator foam pad and your paint surface, then yes it can create scratch, I think this is common sense though. Just be caution.
As for time of application in between each wax session, it is highly subjective and on a case by case basic. Assuming you referring to a daily driver, drive around Klang Valley, park in outside more than 50% of the time. Wash weekly using good quality shampoo. Clay before wax. In between wash you do not boost the wax with spray wax or quik detailer, I will say as a rule of thumb for pure carnauba wax at most one month, for sealant, maybe 3 months (depend on brand).
Easiest way of determining whether you need a new layer of wax application is to observe water beading. If it has deteriorated to a level you feel unsatisfactory even after a wash, then re-apply. Overkill is completely fine. Nevertheless, lost of water beading effect to naked eyes does not necessary equals to lost of wax layer existence and wax protection. To confirm on existence of wax layer on top of paint surface, you need to perform at least what Meguiar's call Squeak Test.
coz im reading the thread Car Care & Detailing V1.. they mention hafta use Sealant (M21) and then top up with Wax (GC).. thats y it confuse me awhile on my detailing toys..
but do we need to do that? i was thinking use either 1 (M21/GC) will do then just top up with Quik Wax when is possible..
As for need or not. That is subjective. Like what the article says, unless you do a test session and then compare the result, otherwise there is no way to tell with concrete evidence that your eyes sense a difference. But as long as you feel good then go ahead and do it, no harm, other than spending some extra money. I always say overkill is completely fine LOL.
Your choice of using M21 first then top with spray wax is a method too.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 26 2014, 03:33 PM)
Speaking about wax, two weeks ago I applied Meguiars Ultimate Paste Wax on my black coloured car which already had Autoglym's HD Wax since before CNY. Ease of application is not bad for a paste wax. Can streak on the bonnet if not applied evenly and easier to remedy. Gives very dark glossy wet look with just one application. I also found that not much dust sticks onto the car body as I managed to wash the car with ease last weekend.
On my wifey's dark blue coloured car, I decided to top up on top of the existing Autoglym's HD Wax with Meguiars Gold Class Carnauba Plus liquid wax last weekend. I noted that it's like a cleaner wax because my application pad got quite dirty pretty quickly. Very easy to apply. No streaking and the results are very satisfying. Need for next weekend to see if the car body collects dust and if it's easier to wash the car.
Autoglym's HD Wax as I know is highly expensive/luxury wax I never used it before I am unable to comment on it sorry But Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax and Meguiar's Gold Class Paste Wax I used both before. Actually still using. I agree with you on the characteristics you observed for both of these Meguiar's products. Gold class wax will be even more beneficial on dark color car, so you should be able to gain the most from Gold Class wax by using it on your wife's dark blue car. Gold class wax is a natural wax product, so it does not last long. I think maximum one month you have to re-apply already. Its water beading effect is not as strong as other Meguiar's product too. As for dust attraction, I deem it attracts dust quite easily, but I think that is then nature of most carnauba wax product.
If we define SEALANT as something contains absolutely no natural wax content in its composition, and WAX as something consists of naturally occurring wax substance such as carnauba wax up to certain % ratio (you can never have 100% carnauba wax, because it is a solid, unusable). Then, by this definition (only by this definition), Meguiar's Ultimate Wax is a sealant, not a wax, though it has the word "wax" printed on its bottle for marketing purpose. I actually read from Meguiar's forum that this is indeed the intended purpose because if they label it as sealant, most likely the sales will not be as good as now as average joe consumer do not understand sealant as well as wax. Meguiar's NXT Wax by this definition is also a sealant, which Meguiar's has agree on this statement in their forum, the word WAX printed on the bottle is solely for marketing purpose.
Nevertheless, you do not have to agree on this definition. There is no detailing police who legislates the use and definition of various terminology in detailing.
This weekend see got time or nt.. gonna shop for Sealant wax to keep stock. my small bottle Ultimate Liquid Wax from New Car Kit guess gonna finish soon. temp only have Mags M16 as for my 2nd wax only..
Bring someone along to safeguard your wallet or be prepare to shop till drop XD BTW Meguiar's FB page states that they having 10% sales at 28 Feb at AEON. So grab your chance.
Guys, scoutfaiQuazacoltKrisMas Regarding my case that I posted before at #1074
Bought the EZY touchup paint already, I would like to ask, after washing & drying up the area, Can/Should I apply the Turtlewax Scratch & Swirl beforehand or straight apply EZY touchup paint following their steps provided?
Aside from that, just curious
bro Quazacolt has covers it completely for you! I agree on what he said.
If you are first time user, practice first on a hard plastic surface, to have a feeling of the viscosity and adsorbability of the touch up paint.
Not sure about what tools you have, I will do as follow:
1) Detergent wash the area. 2) Use the supplied Wax and Grease remover and wipe on the scratch and chip using the supplied brush. 3) IPA wipe again if you have IPA. You should have super duper clean area by now. Bare paint or bare metal or bare fiber glass expose to you only. 4) Shake your touch up paint thoroughly. Use a sharp tool, like toothpick, to apply the touch up paint from the bottle to your panel. Use dab motion, brushing motion is just not practical from my experience. If you have very large area then maybe you can consider using the supplied brush. Otherwise, toothpick is always good start. 5) It is better to have one time process only, i.e. once you dab a location, do not re-dab if you feel you didn't do a nice job. You either wipe it away completely (easy while it still have not dry) or wait till this layer of application sufficiently dry, then re-dab 2nd time, then repeat 3rd time, till you cover the area sufficiently thick. 6) Now here is the tips, if you do not have tool to level down the blob of touch up paint, it is better you dab till it almost level then stop. Doing so will not provide a level, smooth touch up job but because you do not have the tool (like polisher) to level the blob later, it is better to stop at there first. You can always wait till you acquire the tool then re-dab again. 7) if you do have the tool, then dab till it forms a blob of touch up paint. Wait it dries for some weeks. Then sand it down level, polish it back to shine.
You can get the surgical purpose IPA wipe cotton, sold in pharmacy like Guardian, piece by piece one. For small touch up job like yours several pieces will be sufficient. nevertheless this step is optional. I use it cause I so happen have such cotton wipe from my dad due to his medical need.
Use hair dryer to blow the area if you feel you need to re-dab. What is sufficiently dry? dry till when you lightly dab again with toothpick, it will not cause a mark on the touch up paint. So test this on a sample first. Experiment (I trial and error so many times, it is fun).
The Ezy Touch Up paint is very fluidity, so when you dip the applicator (brush or toothpick) into the touch up paint and lift it up then bring it to your scratch area, remember do not breath too strong, you will accidentally blow some drop of touch up paint on the neighborhood area of the panel. Wear a mask to prevent strong flow of breath air if necessary.
I provide some videos on two different touch up jobs of some reputable detailer, one with feather edge technique, one without:
Please be reminded, your car color is light color, so the shadow edge of the scratch will be easily visible even after you put the touch up paint. It is really very difficult to have a perfect touch up paint job on a light color car. So do expect it will not look perfect, because a perfect job is most likely only possible with re-spray. Nevertheless, few feets away should still give your car a better look than before touch up.
I myself still struggling to touch up perfectly for my metallic silver car so I can only comment till this stage. Be dare to experiment and always use your common sense and natural instinct when you doing your touch up job. Whenever you feel unhappy with the result, you can always wipe the touch up paint away using some kind of solvent (or the wax and grease remover provided in the kit), best use with a cotton tipped applicator.
Remember to share before after pics
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Alright, Got it! Thx for the steps by steps guideline, very informative.
Seems quite a hassle, gonna stay calm & apply. HaHaa~
It could be days or weeks process. So patient is the key. Do not rush. When in doubt, take pics, stop, go online, ask question seek help, then re-try again. There is really no reason to rush especially when it is such a delicate job.
Another reminder, the touch up paint after dry will tend to shrink in size a bit. Says now you dab it till it forms a blob while still wet. You might expect after it dries the blob still there but the truth is when it dries, the blob will either disappear becomes back a valley or not as high as you first see it when it is still not dry. So re-visit your result after some time of curing to see whether the dried touch up paint has reaches to the depth and level you want it to be.
Oh yea! Mayb will try seek out for M21 and looking Mags glass cleaner..
Forgotten to tell you the 10% discount is for Aeon member privilege only. So you got to have Aeon member card.
I think you will not find mirror glaze line of product in Aeon. Try Home Fix instead. Aeon just carry consumer range product and even so they do not carry all the consumer range neither.
eh.. still got stock eh? mind drop me a PM what is name & price for the Sealant wax? last time due to CNY gathering can't manage to join Detailing TT.... Yea bro!
Not sure bro KrisMas still has DG sealant for sale or not but I think spray wax DG Aquawax still available.
List that given to me last time:
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left is art no. 230 200-544 (the one that turns red and smells like piss) right is "Best. Nr." 230 200 (the one the bundles with the rim coating, fully German labels)
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 27 2014, 09:24 PM)
Yeah, it associates itself with brands like Aston Martin. Expensive here but other places it's cheap. Got it in Singapore for quite a good discount. That's the only reason why I got it and because I was curious.
Anyway, it may last long with good water beading but application wise is more difficult and shine factor is ok only. In my opinion, there are better waxes for lesser price. I'll revisit it from time to time. Yes, I always thought synthetic waxes are better in handling dust than carnauba and longer lasting too. But in terms of warmth, the carnauba cannot be beaten. The Ultimate Wax looks quite good actually combining strengths from synthetic and carnauba. I always associate wax as oily / greasy. With the Ultimate Wax, I thought the applicator and microfibre cloth was a little oily. Will check it out. My cars are picture shy. Will try and take some.
Anyway, a question to all hobbyist detailers. What's your take on the current water situation? Wash or don't wash your cars?
My conscience is pricking me. Perhaps I should seriously look into ONRs.
Just wanted to ask the same question regarding the water rationing crisis. On one side, to be a citizen, we should share the responsibility with the rest of the people in this indecent time. On another side, hell no I feel so guilty to myself to put less care on my ride.
Some radio DJ comments use washing machine left over water to wash car. I was like "great, and strip all the essential oily substance from your clear coat and dull your paint".
I have a bottle of Optimum No Rinse Wash (ONR), bought from Detailien last time, haven have chance to use it myself as washing medium but just as claying lubricant.
I think is time I put it to test. I have used Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere (WWA) before but not as washing entire car, just to wipe on localized panel area when I spot some dirt after I parked my car. I think is a good chance to try this waterless wash method also.
Right now Aeon having member card sale till 3rd of March, nationwide, all Meguiar's product 10% discount, one WWA cost about RM70+ original price, can consider get one for those who are interested. TurtleWax rinseless wash should be on sale in Aeon too. Those who cant get ONR can try TurtleWax.
Last but not least, KrisMas got any rinseless or waterless wash in your product list?
In summary, I think we need to share the responsibility of using less water. But have to be creative and dare to try new, more water efficient washing method this time. I believe detailer/car enthusiast does not necessary equals large water waster.
Note: Previously I wrongly type Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax (UWW), I actually want to type Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere (WWA), it is a waterless washing aid.
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