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post Feb 7 2014, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(mirage81 @ Feb 7 2014, 06:20 PM)
Oh..didt realise. i guess u come later than me.

Ya...GGuard i know..previously their shop is locate at SONAX there..donno y shift to further down abit..btw GGuard got chun chicks reception..  brows.gif 

Ps..Actually my office is just opposite Sonax there..didt realise they got promo..  doh.gif
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You should wipe out all the products and re-sell again and earn a little bit of margin biggrin.gif
Sonax actually quite hard to find for 1st timer. They do not have a big sign board outside, even the name outside the building is not their company name. I end up calling to the office and ask only realize i was park next to it.

Thanks for the inform, next time do a car wash there at G-guard. drool.gif


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post Feb 7 2014, 06:30 PM

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Could this be you?
Modifying BD KP600

Do you like the Bosch GEX-125 over the BD KP600?
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post Feb 7 2014, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Feb 7 2014, 06:28 PM)
- What actually will happen in this session?
KrisMas will present you with a 1000 page catalogue that covers products from A to Z, from the ground to heaven.
If you read every page, you'll need one week.

- Attendee need to bring what?
Bank accounts as many as possible.

- Usually you guys hang out until what time?
about 6 hours from the start time

- Are you all going to detail a car right in front of the restaurant like a open road show event?
Possible if you are still resistant to Krismas poison.
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Hey bro is funny rclxms.gif bbut after the jokes provide a serious answer please. icon_question.gif Never been to you guys event before so no idea what is the agenda of the night.
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post Feb 7 2014, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 7 2014, 06:39 PM)
LOL

The BD is less powerful than the Bosch. I use the BD for light duties like waxing. If I recall, the Bosch made a split in the back of the foam pad where the edge of the velcro ends after a long usage.

My Bosch is inactive for quite a while since I got a RB. First I made do with the China made Skill 9070 and until just recently I got the Makita 9227C.  biggrin.gif
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So that thread in autogeek is really made by you la?

Good machine you have.
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post Feb 8 2014, 12:37 AM

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what exactly TT means and stands for?
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post Feb 8 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(vx55 @ Feb 8 2014, 09:12 AM)
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As far as I know, yes smile.gif
I was at their place about a month ago, I see tons of them haha!
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This sounds like Osren does not display all products available in their shop in their website oh.
Guess I need to contact them to provide a full list. I was always thought that the website products are the full range.
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post Feb 8 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 8 2014, 03:53 AM)
teh tarik, or to the chinese, yumcha lo
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teh tarik, oh well done notworthy.gif Malaysian style indeed. thumbup.gif
Didn't thought of that, just keep on thinking is it some kind of detailing term, "Total Transformation" , or something else.
Guess you guys enjoy it yesterday.
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2014, 02:48 AM)
lol over budget on my detailing purchase again T^T http://twitpic.com/dutf1d

krismas omg king cobra cry.gif
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Did your wife/girl friend says anything ? tongue.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 07:44 AM)
Full resolution and EXIF data included to clear any doubts:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/YWyAuVNUApj

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/a9zm7DDBKXe

really, the poorboy's black hole really did wonders on making proton's tranquility black suck less laugh.gif
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The black getting darker after the application of product.
That's all you used? Where you got your poorboy's black hole?

(I saw a lot of KURNIA stickers on your house glass door, you are agent or loyal customer? biggrin.gif )

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post Feb 10 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Feb 10 2014, 02:38 PM)
Hi want to asking step for detailing car this weekend...

1. normal wash with DG 902 with 2 bucket system
2. drying with waffle weave cloth
3. claying with clay and lube
4. start apply DG 501 for remove wax
5. polish with DG 105 using DA
6. buff with polish cloth
7. wash with DG 902
8. drying with waffle weave cloth
9. apply sealant enviroshield
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If you do not do step 4 but straight do step 5, I think after step 5 your old wax also gone already.
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post Feb 10 2014, 02:49 PM

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Wanna ask how to properly detail plastic trims? I have a lot of it all around my car. Plus together with the black wheels, I find I spend a lot of time dressing them. I take about 10 to 15 minutes just applying the dressing per wheel. sweat.gif


10 to 15 minutes dressing a single wheel, to me is ... normal. LOL
Like I said, a lot of people here is overkill.
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post Feb 10 2014, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 10 2014, 04:09 PM)
LOL Ok. Need to make it clearer. the 10 to 15 minutes dressing I mentioned is just putting on the dressing on the tires. Prior cleaning the tires and the rims is like 15 to 20 minutes per wheel. And that's doing it on a weekly basis.  sweat.gif Does not help that it's a 19" wheel rim and rubber and it collects a LOT of dirt.  sad.gif The tires also one kind. Sidewall pattern is with very fine patterns and the dressings sometimes don't get applied nicely into those fine grooves. That's why it takes long. Have to massage it longer.

The black plastic trims surrounding the car is another problem. Putting dressing on it needs to make sure it's uniform as the area is quite large.
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My average weekly wash activity took me 3 hrs minimum, that include
(i) tires, rims, wheel well wash with degreaser 1:10 ratio.
(ii) Internal door edges delicate cleaning (I found a lot of splash dirty water spot here, so have to clean up as well).
(iii) Wash whole exterior.
(iv) Wipe dry exterior, a bit on interior (door closing gap), and rims.
(v) Wipe under surface of engine hood with the remaining car shampoo, top up windshield washer, wipe a bit on engine parts.
(vi) Clean up stuffs and tools.
(vii) Apply tires dressing.
(viii) Time for lunch.

If got vacuum, interior wipe clean, add another hour at least. Because my house is facing east, 8am I can start to experience illumination of sun light. So from starting to wash at 7:30am, since last week I change to 6am wake up, 6:45am start washing after breakfast and apply sun block.

So no worry bro, I knew you spend hell lot of time and effort in washing & taking care your precious ride on weekly basic but remember you are not alone LOL.

As for the very fine patterns on the tires that you found hard to apply dressing onto, try use a tires brush (or any brush) instead.

If you are single, I guess taking care the car is the reason you stay single XD icon_idea.gif
If you are married, I guess taking care the car is the reason you wife wants to kill you XD. brows.gif

Again, you are not alone. thumbup.gif
Unless you willing to reduce your expectation, otherwise time can't really be saved.

Curious, your car is a SUV or 4WD kind of car? So many plastic trims around. The more different features a car has, the more complicated the process of taking care of them. You got to live with that for the vehicle of your preference. Another option could be spray paint the plastic trim so it has a paint surface, then next time you can skip taking care of plastic trim but treat it as normal painted surface only.
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 10 2014, 05:30 PM)
My weekly wash would AT LEAST take me 2 hours....per car....but then, need to add another half an hour or so cuz I do the glass, tyres, plastic, etc dressing after I had my shower & dinner...
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Glad to know I am not the only freak. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 11:20 PM)
That spring, helix looking hose is water hose?
It hanging on the top of the wall, you install the holder there?
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post Feb 11 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 11 2014, 03:13 PM)
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The very reason why I AM and WILL ALWAYS BE on distilled water in the windscreen washer water reservoir. Even tap water would also cause those. Btw, better check your car roof too..... sweat.gif
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Where you get distilled water?
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post Feb 11 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 11 2014, 03:45 PM)
Giant...sometime 99 Speedmart.... tongue.gif
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wah, then it is about the price of a drinking water bottle right?
Every week you got to spend to buy distilled water?

Very expensive leh though affordable, no mini home distilled water machine selling out there in the market?

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post Feb 11 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Feb 11 2014, 03:57 PM)
sleep.gif Damn cheap lah distilled water compare to mineral water. Air kosong it is.
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How much and how many liters per bottle?
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post Feb 11 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Feb 11 2014, 04:11 PM)
hmm.gif 10 liters enough for you?  tongue.gif  Check at the hypermarket or supermarket. Just next to the mineral water section.
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10 liters of distilled water will be a big container, no wonder I never notice it in Giant as I never interest to look at such big quantity of drinking stuff.
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post Feb 20 2014, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 19 2014, 09:18 PM)
Just found out these scratches just now during car-wash.
It still haven't reach 1 month old yet cry.gif

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Top 3 pictures; situated right above left tyre.
Bottom; Rear bumper

Mostly all these could be treated with the use of touch-up paint, right?

But I couldn't find the color code for my car at the site; [Soft Lilac - 204] rclxub.gif
Went back from Tesco too, no luck.
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If the top left dot is at the front left tyre, it does looks like a rock chip damage. If it is, then this is some normal wear and tear of owning a daily driver, there is nothing you can do about it as it will re-appear again. Putting on a Paint Protection Film can reduce the risk much though.

The top right no doubt is a scratch. A sharp object pushed into the paint and glide over it, but it left the paint surface very early, leaving such a small length. Bottom most pic also looks like some blunt object hit on that spot and pushed a bit, thus the wrinkle collection of paint layer at the right hand side.
These two looks like someone holding on something accidentally hit on it and realize it, then immediately take it away, hence the small length and only one dot.

I deem they are beyond polishing can save, because one can see the bare fiber glass (black color), others already has no paint on it.
You need to put touch up paint and then level it back.
It will never look perfect, but it will at least look better.

Learn from these techniques:



and

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-ar...-procedure.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-ar...ey-scratch.html

From these sources, it is self evident that, not only you need touch up paint of good match and quality, you also need proper tool. So if you do not have the tool, you can invest into it (but then you might feel wasted after done the repairing) or send to professional detailer to do it.

But one panel re-spray generally cost RM300 per panel for normal quality paint, so you got to judge how much the professional charge you. It might negate the value of seeking their help instead of a re-spray.

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post Feb 20 2014, 09:18 PM

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In grocery store like Aeon (Jusco), Tesco, Giant in Malaysia there are two brands of product that is specially made for automotive paint touch up purpose.
One is Ezytouchup as u mentioned, another is AutoSpa.

Both are almost identical product but different in purchasing option where Ezytouchup in store only available in one box which contains 1 bottle of clear coat, base coat and wax&grease remover (something like a solvent).

Where as AutoSpa is available in single bottle, no box kit available. So you can separately buy the base coat, clear coat, and the solvent.

Both also made according to OEM paint code. Almost all local car series in modern time are covered in their line of products.

I have tried both. And I can assure you, all those video and pic are far from true. If you do it the way they show you in the video (using artist brush, painting on the car panel as in drawing on paper, then add on clear coat again), I guarantee you, you will never achieve good result. Unless you have successfully tried before, in which case I would highly eager to request you to share your secret to me.

Typical result of people who just use normal artist brush to do:
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Let's share some experience here. My experience.

AutoSpa


http://www.autospa2u.com/
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AutoSpa is easily becomes viscous once the bottle is opened and stored. Its base coat and clear coat is very "thick" after 1st use as in glue kind of liquid viscosity. This has advantage and disadvantage. 1st time use is just as fluid as Ezytouchup.

Advantage:
- When you repairing vertical panel, the high viscosity gives you more chance of successfully put the paint stay on the repair area, instead of flowing straight down by gravity pull.

- Once thoroughly shaken, the liquid can maintain in use-able mixture for longer time, because it takes more time for the pigment to settle down at the bottom of the bottle again.

Disadvantage:
- I realize the color coat dried up quite easily when stored in bottle. It could due to my frequent use of it and hence the gas of solvent just vaporize into air and making the remaining base coat liquid starting to get more and more viscous until unusable.

- The clear coat is a complete disaster. Unless you have a polisher machine, otherwise, do not expect the application of clear coat will give you a silky smooth surface. You MUST polish out the surface if you decided to use its clear coat. It gives out a lot of spider net, or glue looking, or pizza cheese looking kind of thing when you dip your applicator into it (brush, stick, whatever).



Eztouchup
Eztouchup is in contrast to AutoSpa, very liquify. It is almost like water, for both base coat and clear coat.

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Advantage:
- Easily shaken well because of low viscosity.
- Very thin layer of application is possible with this level of viscosity.

Disadvantage:
- It hardly can hold on vertical panel, it just flow right down due to gravity pull.


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Eztouchup viscosity is more like real spray paint viscosity. People who have been touching up paint with real spray paint product will be more familiar working with Eztouchup. AutoSpa will make this group of people feel like using glue.

My personal preference in between these two is AutoSpa, because of cost effective and convenience of application on vertical panel. The solvent will consumed very fast, with AutoSpa you can easily buy just the solvent (I bought multiple to keep for back up). Whereas Eztouchup, unless you buy online, otherwise if you buy through grocery store, you got to get a box kit every time, which is very costly.


One disadvantage to both of these products is, their color match only suitable for new car paint, or paint in excellent condition. Because it is made according to OEM paint code, when fresh, will match very nice. When your car already has some age, do expect a difference in tone.

In term of touch up, metallic silver is the hardest to achieve good result. Pure non-metallic black should be the easiest, though I cannot be sure, but common sense tell me this should be the case.

Pearl paint is even harder, or should I say near to impossible? tongue.gif Dunno never read anything about pearl paint touch up job before, maybe because all pearl paint car owners are rich guy so whenever got scratch just re-spray brows.gif

Nowadays we have matte paint and peel-able paint. I have no idea how to touch up these. They say peel-able paint like PlastiDIP, just directly re-spray on that spot will do a perfect match. Never see a real repair job before cannot verify the claim. But if it is true, it is really amazing.

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