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post Aug 4 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 10:10 PM)
Wax is just for protection against the elements...something like putting on a *very* thin layer of cling wrap film over the paint. It might be able to 'mask' a little bit of the *very* fine scratches...but not by much. Further more, it's just temporary and would wear off over (a short) time. Best is to get the scratches remove by polishing and the round thing that spins is called a 'rotary polisher' tongue.gif Just make sure they use the right polish to REMOVE cuz some polishes are also good in 'masking' the scratches.
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er.. i think we can use meguairs product something call scratch removal... will it remove scratches permanently?
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 10:10 PM)
Wax is just for protection against the elements...something like putting on a *very* thin layer of cling wrap film over the paint. It might be able to 'mask' a little bit of the *very* fine scratches...but not by much. Further more, it's just temporary and would wear off over (a short) time. Best is to get the scratches remove by polishing and the round thing that spins is called a 'rotary polisher' tongue.gif Just make sure they use the right polish to REMOVE cuz some polishes are also good in 'masking' the scratches.
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Noted..thanks
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post Aug 4 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Aug 4 2014, 10:11 PM)
er.. i think we can use meguairs product something call scratch removal... will it remove scratches permanently?
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Yup. Megs got a few 'scratch remover' of different aggresiveness that would remove anything from light swirls (cobweb-like light scratches) to deeper scratches (those that hasn't gone through the clear coat and can still be salvage la), namely frm less aggressive to most aggressive, SwirlX - Ultimate Polish - ScratchX - Ultimate Compound. If want to DIY, I would suggest getting the Megs 'twin' - Ultimate Polish & Ultimate Compound. Used correctly, these two would probably be able to tackle *almost* anything that any DIY-er can handle....oh...not to forget the other two stuffs which I would also consider as ESSENTIALS to any success of any DIY hobbiests - PASSION and PATIENCE. thumbup.gif
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hi, i'm a newbie here, i just want to ask, if say i polish and wax my car by hand would it damaged the clear coat of my car, and also which polish and wax product to you all recommend i use when DIY my car. i also have bought Megs SwirlX, does any one have ever tried this product?

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post Aug 4 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 09:59 PM)
Endurance doesn't come with an applicator. Those yellow round wax applicator would do...but try not to use the ones frm Megs. They're too soft and the foam cant take the roughness of the tyres, especially when they have been 'soften' by the gel. Any tyre applicator 'sponges' sold in the stores are fine too. Personally, there's this Kiwi shoe polish applicator that I personally like cuz it's denser than normal sponge, softer but quite durable. I like it because the dense foam makes the gel stays longer on the surface and doesn't absorb as quick, softness makes it easier to squeeze the gel out again to the surface especiallynduring application, and durable than any other foam that i've tried since 'rubbing' the sponge against the texture of the tyres do wear out the foam faster, especially when I'm trying to work the gel into/between the small letters/wordings/grooves.

And I would guess it's only suitable for gel/silicone based product that doesn't (or VERY SLOWLY) dry over time.  I've never tried it with wax or polish though....can't say for sure but i don't see the point of doing it with waxes/sealants/polishes.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 4 2014, 10:24 PM)
Noted..thanks
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I think you have to take car on the sponge make sure when you polish or wax your pad doesnt drop. Cause it will collect some rough recedue. If you drop and use it damn... You damage your pain... Just becarefull when you do that. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(NoNameSake @ Aug 4 2014, 10:36 PM)
hi, i'm a newbie here, i just want to ask, if say i polish and wax my car by hand would it damaged the clear coat of my car, and also which polish and wax product to you all recommend i use when DIY my car. i also have bought Megs SwirlX, does any one have ever tried this product?

thanx
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You polish by hand can't really damage your car just that you have to make sure before you start polishing or wax make sure your car is clean. And also while polish/wax make sure you do it section by section. I never touch before SwirlX maybe other guys can help you. thumbup.gif
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thanx for the info, BTW between Megs Hard Wax and Liquid Wax which is better?
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 10:28 PM)
Yup. Megs got a few 'scratch remover' of different aggresiveness that would remove anything from light swirls (cobweb-like light scratches) to deeper scratches (those that hasn't gone through the clear coat and can still be salvage la), namely frm less aggressive to most aggressive, SwirlX - Ultimate Polish - ScratchX - Ultimate Compound. If want to DIY, I would suggest getting the Megs 'twin' - Ultimate Polish & Ultimate Compound. Used correctly, these two would probably be able to tackle *almost* anything that any DIY-er can handle....oh...not to forget the other two stuffs which I would also consider as ESSENTIALS to any success of any DIY hobbiests - PASSION and PATIENCE. thumbup.gif
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if i use ultimate polish and ultimate compound - do i have still to wax my car? sorry for silly questions.
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Aug 4 2014, 10:51 PM)
if i use ultimate polish and ultimate compound - do i have still to wax my car? sorry for silly questions.
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If you are now I think that ultimate compound is really bad idea to start with. Something like a cutting solution. doh.gif
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Aug 4 2014, 10:45 PM)
Come come show is what's the KIWI thing. notworthy.gif
I think you have to take car on the sponge make sure when you polish or wax your pad doesnt drop. Cause it will collect some rough recedue. If you drop and use it damn... You damage your pain... Just becarefull when you do that. thumbup.gif
You polish by hand can't really damage your car just that you have to make sure before you start polishing or wax make sure your car is clean. And also while polish/wax make sure you do it section by section. I never touch before SwirlX maybe other guys can help you.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(NoNameSake @ Aug 4 2014, 10:48 PM)
thanx for the info, BTW between Megs Hard Wax and Liquid Wax which is better?
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If you mean Megs Ultimate Liquid vs Ultimate Paste...well...i don't know about the product itself cuz never did get an opportunity to try them. But, in general, paste vs liquid:
Liquid is easier to squeeze onto pads and apply by machine.
Paste are mainly made for hand applications with applicator pad.

Performance wise, i don't know about the above two, but previously with NXT paste vs liquid, I roughly experienced the paste was able to provide better performance and durability. Though, again, the liquid took much much lesser time to apply with a machine (Bosch ROB).
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Aug 4 2014, 10:51 PM)
if i use ultimate polish and ultimate compound - do i have still to wax my car? sorry for silly questions.
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Yes. UP & UC are for defects removal - they don't provide any protections afterwards. You'd need to apply a wax or sealant after you're finished.

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Aug 4 2014, 10:54 PM)
If you are now I think that ultimate compound is really bad idea to start with. Something like a cutting solution.  doh.gif
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.....so need to learn to use it correctly. Understanding the product usage and the right techniques is everything. Easy nowadays as there are plenty of videos/guides online. It will only be dangerous if you jump into a pool without first learning how to swim....
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 09:59 PM)
Endurance doesn't come with an applicator. Those yellow round wax applicator would do...but try not to use the ones frm Megs. They're too soft and the foam cant take the roughness of the tyres, especially when they have been 'soften' by the gel. Any tyre applicator 'sponges' sold in the stores are fine too. Personally, there's this Kiwi shoe polish applicator that I personally like cuz it's denser than normal sponge, softer but quite durable. I like it because the dense foam makes the gel stays longer on the surface and doesn't absorb as quick, softness makes it easier to squeeze the gel out again to the surface especiallynduring application, and durable than any other foam that i've tried since 'rubbing' the sponge against the texture of the tyres do wear out the foam faster, especially when I'm trying to work the gel into/between the small letters/wordings/grooves.

And I would guess it's only suitable for gel/silicone based product that doesn't (or VERY SLOWLY) dry over time.  I've never tried it with wax or polish though....can't say for sure but i don't see the point of doing it with waxes/sealants/polishes.... hmm.gif
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omg shoe polish sponge tip

never thought of this notworthy.gif

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 10:28 PM)
Yup. Megs got a few 'scratch remover' of different aggresiveness that would remove anything from light swirls (cobweb-like light scratches) to deeper scratches (those that hasn't gone through the clear coat and can still be salvage la), namely frm less aggressive to most aggressive, SwirlX - Ultimate Polish - ScratchX - Ultimate Compound. If want to DIY, I would suggest getting the Megs 'twin' - Ultimate Polish & Ultimate Compound. Used correctly, these two would probably be able to tackle *almost* anything that any DIY-er can handle....oh...not to forget the other two stuffs which I would also consider as ESSENTIALS to any success of any DIY hobbiests - PASSION and PATIENCE. thumbup.gif
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as i'm also on the "meg twins" (well... technically, m101, lol), i highly agree on this thumbup.gif

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 11:13 PM)
.....so need to learn to use it correctly. Understanding the product usage and the right techniques is everything. Easy nowadays as there are plenty of videos/guides online. It will only be dangerous if you jump into a pool without first learning how to swim....
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this thumbup.gif nod.gif

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QUOTE(NoNameSake @ Aug 4 2014, 10:48 PM)
thanx for the info, BTW between Megs Hard Wax and Liquid Wax which is better?
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Assuming you referring to their ultimate paste wax/ultimate liquid wax:

if you never plan to get a machine (DA/rotary etc) then go with paste
general comments is that ULW liquid will have oils that may cause streaking and could be more difficult to buff off.
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Aug 4 2014, 10:55 PM)
i Understand bro,that's why I'm taking to shop
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actually you can diy with online/youtube guides

better in the long run for know-hows in car care nod.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 4 2014, 11:13 PM)
Yes. UP & UC are for defects removal - they don't provide any protections afterwards. You'd need to apply a wax or sealant after you're finished.
.....so need to learn to use it correctly. Understanding the product usage and the right techniques is everything. Easy nowadays as there are plenty of videos/guides online. It will only be dangerous if you jump into a pool without first learning how to swim....
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Yeap!
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I had tried search from shoes sponge before but what I bought usually comes with the shoes cream/oil inside the sponge already (didn't realize that when buy it), so end up cannot use for tyre, reserve for shoes (its original design purpose, not too bad luck at least still can polish leather shoes).
Is the Kiwi sponge just pure sponge without any shoes cream/oil/gel in it already?

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This is the one I'm talking about:

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It's actually kinda small...maybe around 2" or 2 1/2" in diameter. But I find the size is just nice for my low profile tyres (217/45/17).

scoutfai, you're right. Most of the Kiwi sponges are already loaded with their shine/polish/wax, but the one above isn't. Actually, if you bought one of those, why don't you try it on. It actually gives quite a nice mat/satin sheen to the rubber...kind of the 'new rubber' look. Very nice looking if if you ask me, especially since I'm the kinda guy who aren't really fond of those shiny/wet looking finish. Something like Dodo Juice Tyromania look.
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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 5 2014, 08:10 AM)
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Man im looking at that thing too... Is hard to get here! cry.gif cry.gif


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 5 2014, 09:05 AM)
This is the one I'm talking about:

user posted image

It's actually kinda small...maybe around 2" or 2 1/2" in diameter. But I find the size is just nice for my low profile tyres (217/45/17).

scoutfai, you're right. Most of the Kiwi sponges are already loaded with their shine/polish/wax, but the one above isn't. Actually, if you bought one of those, why don't you try it on. It actually gives quite a nice mat/satin sheen to the rubber...kind of the 'new rubber' look. Very nice looking if if you ask me, especially since I'm the kinda guy who aren't really fond of those shiny/wet looking finish. Something like Dodo Juice Tyromania look.
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Wow nice... I should hunt that down. After stop looking at the internet searching for detailing updates and talk. Realize there is a lot things for me to catch up! shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Aug 5 2014, 09:40 AM)
Man im looking at that thing too... Is hard to get here!  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I think Osren and Duragloss Malaysia are selling those foam gun that can be attach to normal garden hose, the one on top. Try asking them.

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