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post Nov 20 2013, 03:10 PM

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Change format do leads to brain death in some..


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post Nov 20 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 02:08 PM)
This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die
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wont die lar...the examiner will grade the papers according to requirement...ie how many NEED to pass and vice versa
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:12 PM

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post Nov 20 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 02:08 PM)
This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die
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Stop blaming the students

It's the SYSTEM that requires them to MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND WRITE DOWN THE ANSWER IN A PRE-ARRANGED PATTERN

One word wrong the whole question you got goose egg

It's the system that's at fault - it's the politicians that are making the whole thing into a mockery.

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post Nov 20 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 03:13 PM)
Stop blaming the students

It's the SYSTEM that requires them to MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND WRITE DOWN THE ANSWER IN A PRE-ARRANGED PATTERN

One word wrong the whole question you got goose egg

It's the system that's at fault - it's the politicians that are making the whole thing into a mockery.
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exactly

even if the student is a genius with an iq of 160 or even a goddamn nobel prize winner,you still get 0 marks if u didnt use the correct word or perhaps the stupid definisi or kata kunci.that is just how the stupid paper work.

so the students HAVE to memorize,because that is the way to answer,not because they want,but because they have to
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:15 PM

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we need to revamp the education system. students in UK gets free meal, free books, free transport heck they dont even wear uniform to their colleges at 15, malaysia is left too far behind doh.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:15 PM

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Ayam disapprove of this format change.

UNDILAH BARISAN NASIONAL!!! FORMAT DITUKARKAN!!! PELAJAR TIDAK DIMAKLUMKAN!!!
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 02:08 PM)
This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die
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Blame themselves. Suppose to study. Not memorize
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:16 PM

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I agree that it is plain memory work,
but please put urself in their shoes,
if u had that many subjects to prepare for,
u would freak out as well.
this is one of the easy A's to score
and if they gave notice earlier through trial papers or by informing the teachers,
I think it wont become such a big fuss.

They cant just make such abrupt changes in the exam system
and think that the good ones will still excel, to justify their actions


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QUOTE(leetan33 @ Nov 20 2013, 02:05 PM)
Another student said that in the past two years, students were told that they only needed to memorise the 36 moral values and answer accordingly during the exam.
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The fact that such a stupid subject with such a ridiculous approach to scoring exists just proves how gagal our education system is...
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 03:06 PM)
in other words, their spotted question didnt came out?
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How can a closed paper test have spotted questions? Get your facts right before commenting eh. We were supposed to just memorize 36 Nilai for our essay question which needed the Nilai to be answered and this was thought to us for 2 years and suddenly on the last day, the format changed. You can cope meh? It's the same as going to the gym for two years, carrying 10KG weights and suddenly personal trainer ask you to carry 60KG on that day without any prior training or notice. Sure you bang balls there.
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:18 PM

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All memorize soalan bocor only. Format change, everyone hancur lol
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 03:15 PM)
we need to revamp the education system. students in UK gets free meal, free books, free transport heck they dont even wear uniform to their colleges at 15, malaysia is left too far behind doh.gif
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our education system already in the sewer until the next GE
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 20 2013, 03:10 PM)
We studied everything that was told, we memorized the entire textbook , it's about the sudden change in format that causes our anger to rise to boiling point. Let's say you are supposed allowed to do your chemistry or physics experiment as a paper3 and on that day of exam , they requested you to do it with a hands-on experiment. What are your thoughts?

Nope, it's been a closed paper all these years, nothing to spot
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How is it that bad? My thought is a long as you understand the concept you can answer it. like chemistry or physics experiment if you can write in the paper you can do it in live setting.


QUOTE(Toyoi @ Nov 20 2013, 03:10 PM)
gantikan subjek Moral jadi subjek Anti-Korupsi

hari-hari belajar rasuah itu haram gerenti dapat A+

MACC pun boleh dibubarkan kerana kes korupsi semakin kurang

kerajaan pun jimat kos belanja projek mega kerana tiada lagi Alibaba 10%
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funny la you, semua nak kait dengan corruption. shakehead.gif
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Well, those people buat bising here didn't actually do Moral paper...

They actually threaten the non bumi until this extend unbelievable...
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 03:13 PM)
Stop blaming the students

It's the SYSTEM that requires them to MEMORIZE EVERYTHING AND WRITE DOWN THE ANSWER IN A PRE-ARRANGED PATTERN

One word wrong the whole question you got goose egg

It's the system that's at fault - it's the politicians that are making the whole thing into a mockery.
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You are the one who don't understand what I was trying to convey

Just like a product of the system itself.

I blame Malaysia's education system

Who set the questions?

Who set the format?

Who teach students to answer the questions and follow which format?

The students or the teachers?

So when I blame the system, who am I really blaming?
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Nov 20 2013, 03:16 PM)
Blame themselves. Suppose to study. Not memorize
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dude.ok what if the paper come out normal.if they didnt memorize,but study properly,how are they going to answer the question CORRECTLY according to the marking scheme?the moral paper works through memorization.one word wrong and you get a 0 marks.
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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 03:08 PM)
This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education

Memorize format to pass exam only

Change format = all die
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post Nov 20 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 03:06 PM)
in other words, their spotted question didnt came out?
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SPM Moral past papers are confidential (sulit) so it is quite impossible to spot questions. And also, the students are asked to memorise 36 moral definitions word for word or by keywords just to ace in the exam.
If the government is serious in encouraging critical thinking, then the examination bureau shouldn't ask the students to memorise it or just inform them the format will be changed.
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Nov 20 2013, 03:16 PM)
Blame themselves. Suppose to study. Not memorize
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Do you know what you are talking about, Sir ?

If you know, please tell us how you should answer the question for that particular paper ?

If not, please STFU !

That Moral Paper is NOT ABOUT STUDYING, it's ALL ABOUT MEMORIZING EVERY SINGLE FARKING KEYWORDS AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN PRE-APPROVED WAY.

One farking word wrong, or one farking definition that you have forgot to put in, THE WHOLE QUESTION YOU GOT ZERO MARK !

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR ?

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